Help Needed: Andrew Luck BGS 2012 Panini Black

vikesfan2008 · 07-28-2015, 09:58 AM

All,

I got this in a break of Graded Gallery football a couple weeks ago. My guess is that someone submitted it to BGS and asked for a minimum 9.5/10, but didn't receive the grade they requested. My guess is that it is a 8.5 or 9.0.

I am looking to sell this item, but I obviously want to maximize the value of the card. Any feedback on what I should do? Re-Submit to BGS to get the actual grade, or just go ahead and try to sell like this?

Any help would be appreciated.

OKCThunder35 · 07-28-2015, 10:01 AM

keep it like that. if you want to sell now its worth between 264-298. those are the two completed. i have the /49 of this card

DKfxr · 07-28-2015, 10:05 AM

I would break it out. Buyers will think there is something wrong with the card bc it was only authenticated.

matt roberson · 07-28-2015, 10:35 AM

Leave it in there unless you want to be shady..... that has a lot of surface issues and looks like it might get a 7-8 making the best total grade a 7.5-8.5, which will drop its value.

If you crack and resell without disclosing the damage you might make $50 extra but you'll lose out on more than that over time with the reputation of being a shady seller.

jasonm2121 · 07-28-2015, 10:39 AM

Out of curiosity, what is the gain/point of going the "authenticate" route instead of grading on new cards?

bojesphob · 07-28-2015, 10:40 AM

Not sure if the back of the card would count for the surface grade, but I can see at least one pretty glaring surface issue in the picture of the back. That might be why it wouldn't grade well.

gingerscards · 07-28-2015, 10:42 AM

That may have come from one of those Leaf boxes that have random big hits in it. If it was sent to Beckett by someone and came back Authenticated it would also say ALTERED on it also. You can resend and pay for a grading and they will reslabbed it with the grade it gets. Funny there is a auto grade on the back.
Or the grade could of been low and was requested to be just slabbed??

TheVolta · 07-28-2015, 10:43 AM

Don't send it in for grading... the top right on the back, under the serial numbering, looks pretty nicked up and all four corners on the back show white. I would guess it gets an 8.

vikesfan2008 · 07-28-2015, 10:50 AM

Loving all of the feedback! Keep em comin!

dhendrix1303 · 07-28-2015, 10:57 AM

I'd break it out and just say it was once slabbed "auth". Nothing wrong with that.

smackvay · 07-28-2015, 10:58 AM

with the 4 corners on rear and the damage on right side or rear id leave it alone and take clear pictures of card when selling. If you are honest with the buyer it will be no issue at al

HBMC · 07-28-2015, 11:12 AM

Leave it alone, it's a black bordered and thick card. People fussing over the grades of these RPA's suck.

KevJo · 07-28-2015, 12:33 PM

That is not the type of "condition" where you want it graded. I think the 10 Auto on it makes it a bit more desirable but again, not something I would grade. Leave it in the case!

Kevin

vikesfan2008 · 07-28-2015, 02:17 PM

Anyone else have any opinions on what I should do?

Btw, thanks for everyone's feedback! It's appreciated.

NoleinJax · 07-28-2015, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikesfan2008

Anyone else have any opinions on what I should do?

Btw, thanks for everyone's feedback! It's appreciated.

That blue label is just ugly. It would have to be a very special card to make me want to buy one slabbed like that.

DALLASTILL · 07-28-2015, 02:42 PM

Some people just like to have cards "slabbed" for looks or protection moving forward. My guess is that the person who once had this card knew that it wouldn't grade high and simply wanted it slabbed. People that know this set are aware that anything 8.5 or above is very good for this sensitive set. Personally, I leave it as it is. I think you get similar amount if selling slabbed or unslabbed at this point.

matt roberson · 07-28-2015, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoleinJax

That blue label is just ugly. It would have to be a very special card to make me want to buy one slabbed like that.

While I agree, I don't think he should crack it before selling it..... sell it as is and let the next buyer do with it what they will.

bloodwings19 · 07-28-2015, 04:05 PM

Leave it slabbed. It is like an extra protection for the card. I rather have that than have it all bent up even more.

usatoday07 · 07-28-2015, 04:07 PM

Just leave it slabbed and sell it so. Not worth the possible damage for a potential grade

usafshelland · 07-28-2015, 04:24 PM

It doesn't even look like it would grade well, so I'd leave it in there.

07-28-2015, 09:58 AM	#1
vikesfan2008 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 231 christopher_smith1990	Help Needed: Andrew Luck BGS 2012 Panini Black All, I got this in a break of Graded Gallery football a couple weeks ago. My guess is that someone submitted it to BGS and asked for a minimum 9.5/10, but didn't receive the grade they requested. My guess is that it is a 8.5 or 9.0. I am looking to sell this item, but I obviously want to maximize the value of the card. Any feedback on what I should do? Re-Submit to BGS to get the actual grade, or just go ahead and try to sell like this? Any help would be appreciated.

07-28-2015, 10:35 AM	#4
matt roberson Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: wisconsin Posts: 4,166 robeysresale	Leave it in there unless you want to be shady..... that has a lot of surface issues and looks like it might get a 7-8 making the best total grade a 7.5-8.5, which will drop its value. If you crack and resell without disclosing the damage you might make $50 extra but you'll lose out on more than that over time with the reputation of being a shady seller. __________________ PCing....Rice,AR12,Giannis,RW3,Packers/Badgers and shiny stuff.

07-28-2015, 10:42 AM	#7
gingerscards Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 18,500 gingersportscards1946	That may have come from one of those Leaf boxes that have random big hits in it. If it was sent to Beckett by someone and came back Authenticated it would also say ALTERED on it also. You can resend and pay for a grading and they will reslabbed it with the grade it gets. Funny there is a auto grade on the back. Or the grade could of been low and was requested to be just slabbed?? Last edited by gingerscards; 07-28-2015 at 10:44 AM.

07-28-2015, 10:43 AM	#8
TheVolta Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 5,016	Don't send it in for grading... the top right on the back, under the serial numbering, looks pretty nicked up and all four corners on the back show white. I would guess it gets an 8. __________________ NO STICKERS! Cuts > Stickers… even if they’re alive

07-28-2015, 10:57 AM	#10
dhendrix1303 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 9,711	I'd break it out and just say it was once slabbed "auth". Nothing wrong with that. __________________ Buying: 1995 Atlanta Braves autos Pre-80's Atlanta Braves PSA Vintage

07-28-2015, 10:01 AM	#2
OKCThunder35 Banned - PBM Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,448	keep it like that. if you want to sell now its worth between 264-298. those are the two completed. i have the /49 of this card

07-28-2015, 10:05 AM	#3
DKfxr Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,353	I would break it out. Buyers will think there is something wrong with the card bc it was only authenticated.

07-28-2015, 10:39 AM	#5
jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,007	Out of curiosity, what is the gain/point of going the "authenticate" route instead of grading on new cards?

07-28-2015, 10:40 AM	#6
bojesphob Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 3,734 bojesphob	Not sure if the back of the card would count for the surface grade, but I can see at least one pretty glaring surface issue in the picture of the back. That might be why it wouldn't grade well.

07-28-2015, 10:50 AM	#9
vikesfan2008 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 231 christopher_smith1990	Loving all of the feedback! Keep em comin!

07-28-2015, 10:58 AM	#11
smackvay Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: west virginia Posts: 11,948	with the 4 corners on rear and the damage on right side or rear id leave it alone and take clear pictures of card when selling. If you are honest with the buyer it will be no issue at al __________________ SUPERCOLLECTOR LOOKING FOR PAT WHITE CARDS NEED SILVER? HAVE SILVER? PM ME EITHER WAY

07-28-2015, 11:12 AM	#12
HBMC Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 16,396 hogsboysmavscards	Leave it alone, it's a black bordered and thick card. People fussing over the grades of these RPA's suck. __________________ I PC: Dallas Cowboys Arkansas Razorbacks StL Cards KC Chiefs Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick and Zack Martin PC'er Last edited by HBMC; 07-28-2015 at 11:28 AM.

07-28-2015, 12:33 PM	#13
KevJo Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 11,412	That is not the type of "condition" where you want it graded. I think the 10 Auto on it makes it a bit more desirable but again, not something I would grade. Leave it in the case! Kevin __________________ "By any means"- Khalil Mack

07-28-2015, 02:17 PM	#14
vikesfan2008 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 231 christopher_smith1990	Anyone else have any opinions on what I should do? Btw, thanks for everyone's feedback! It's appreciated.

07-28-2015, 02:42 PM	#16
DALLASTILL Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,719 dallas0005	Some people just like to have cards "slabbed" for looks or protection moving forward. My guess is that the person who once had this card knew that it wouldn't grade high and simply wanted it slabbed. People that know this set are aware that anything 8.5 or above is very good for this sensitive set. Personally, I leave it as it is. I think you get similar amount if selling slabbed or unslabbed at this point.

07-28-2015, 04:05 PM	#18
bloodwings19 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,005	Leave it slabbed. It is like an extra protection for the card. I rather have that than have it all bent up even more.

07-28-2015, 04:07 PM	#19
usatoday07 Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 398	Just leave it slabbed and sell it so. Not worth the possible damage for a potential grade __________________ If my uniform doesn't get dirty, I haven't done anything in the baseball game. Rickey Henderson My Rolling For Trade Thread: Coming Soon

07-28-2015, 04:24 PM	#20
usafshelland Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 5,251 aflterik	It doesn't even look like it would grade well, so I'd leave it in there.