bat knob cards

davidk · 03-27-2015, 12:47 PM

Bat knob cards... I know that they're 1 of 1, so everyone goes crazy over them, but I think there's something really morally wrong about these cards. You take a perfectly awesome bat belonging to Jackie Robinson... then saw it off???!! That's like a crime or something. Wouldn't you want the whole bat?? If someone gave you a Jackie Robinson bat, would you saw it off to make a card? I guess someone will say, they saw off more pieces and make more money out of them... but that's just ridiculous.

http://img.beckett.com/news/news-con...9/knobruth.jpg

MeetJSquared · 03-27-2015, 12:55 PM

Couldn't you make the same argument about game-used jersey/patch pieces?

awz50 · 03-27-2015, 12:55 PM

Its very very sad..

VWBUS1978 · 03-27-2015, 01:00 PM

Congradulations!
You have just received a game used bat card of Jackie Robinson!
The material enclosed in this card is not from any specific event, game or season.
The "top" companies don't issue proof, provenance or anything that would prove them legitimate.
Who says its even his used bat?

The newer players like jeter and posey etc... Sure, ok they use a dozen bats a week, it's easy to just buy one with a MLB Hologram.

texmcpherson · 03-27-2015, 01:02 PM

You could say some players autos ruin a perfectly good pen.

awz50 · 03-27-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by texmcpherson

You could say some players autos ruin a perfectly good pen.

Im sorry but this is a really really really dumb comment

iconms · 03-27-2015, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by davidk

Bat knob cards... I know that they're 1 of 1, so everyone goes crazy over them, but I think there's something really morally wrong about these cards. You take a perfectly awesome bat belonging to Jackie Robinson... then saw it off???!! That's like a crime or something. Wouldn't you want the whole bat?? If someone gave you a Jackie Robinson bat, would you saw it off to make a card? I guess someone will say, they saw off more pieces and make more money out of them... but that's just ridiculous.

http://img.beckett.com/news/news-con...9/knobruth.jpg

I see your point. Personally, I'm not really into full on memorabilia. I pretty much stick to cards. So I don't mind companies making bat knob cards. I am concerned about them coming out with more and more of them each year in multiple products and making them more commonplace. Like any good thing, Topps beats it into the ground.

Thinking · 03-27-2015, 01:26 PM

What is crazy is that the bat knob cards are sometimes worth more than if you had the full actual bat.

Morgoth · 03-27-2015, 01:35 PM

Bat Knob cards are designed collectibles, IMO the originals in original state always is more desirable.

The last NT run of Bat Knobs had some horrible fakes from bats made 40 years after they were supposed to been used in a game. IF that keeps up I think people will get soured on them.

MeetJSquared · 03-27-2015, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iconms

I see your point. Personally, I'm not really into full on memorabilia. I pretty much stick to cards. So I don't mind companies making bat knob cards. I am concerned about them coming out with more and more of them each year in multiple products and making them more commonplace. Like any good thing, Topps beats it into the ground.

I just recently ventured into baseball heavily, and saw the bat knobs/barrels and thought it was cool. Until they were in all the sets. Then the appeal sort of goes away.

hofcollector2 · 03-27-2015, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgoth

Bat Knob cards are designed collectibles, IMO the originals in original state always is more desirable.

The last NT run of Bat Knobs had some horrible fakes from bats made 40 years after they were supposed to been used in a game. IF that keeps up I think people will get soured on them.

Can you provide the link or topic that this was talked about in, I cannot find it and was there any definitive proof? Thanks

Natitude · 03-27-2015, 01:58 PM

I personally have no desire to buy full game used bats, so I would love to have a bat knob collectible card in my collection. I just don't have the storage or display space for a full GU bat in my house. Same goes for a GU jersey. Maybe one or two I could frame and hang, but with cards I can collect multiple players and have a piece of their jersey. Not as cool I know.

nkdbacks · 03-27-2015, 02:03 PM

Personally I am a sports card collector, and full pieces of memorabilia don't appeal to me. I absolutely see why they would, and in theory a full piece should be more valuable, but I enjoy collecting cards so a bat knob 1/1 card would definitely hold more appeal to me than a full bat.

Morgoth · 03-27-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hofcollector2

Can you provide the link or topic that this was talked about in, I cannot find it and was there any definitive proof? Thanks

Here is the most obvious
Paul Waner Bat Knob 1 1 2014 Panini National Treasures Baseball | eBay

Here are examples from PSA, you make the call
PSA ProBatFacts™ Paul Waner

A few bat collectors I have talked to were amazed how poor this example was to be passed off as a game used bat.

wheeler281 · 03-27-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgoth

Here is the most obvious
Paul Waner Bat Knob 1 1 2014 Panini National Treasures Baseball | eBay

Here are examples from PSA, you make the call
PSA ProBatFacts™#@Paul Waner

A few bat collectors I have talked to were amazed how poor this example was to be passed off as a game used bat.

There are cleaner versions of his bat that have sold with Mears authentication with different wood grains etc. Rickey Henderson used several diff bats and various wood grains/clr.

89transam · 03-27-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by texmcpherson

You could say some players autos ruin a perfectly good pen.

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Originally Posted by awz50

Im sorry but this is a really really really dumb comment

I chuckled when I read the part about the pen

Morgoth · 03-27-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wheeler281

There are cleaner versions of his bat that have sold with Mears authentication with different wood grains etc. Rickey Henderson used several diff bats and various wood grains/clr.

It could have been a store model type bat made in the 60's for example but it doesn't look close to any gamer I have seen. There is a huge difference from a store model bat to a gamer.

Also those markings are very specific and I have not seen those on any other gamer.

If Panini would just state where and when they got the bat it would clear things up.

Hess687 · 03-27-2015, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MeetJSquared

I just recently ventured into baseball heavily, and saw the bat knobs/barrels and thought it was cool. Until they were in all the sets. Then the appeal sort of goes away.

Couldn't agree more. It's time for something new.

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davidk Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,615	bat knob cards Bat knob cards... I know that they're 1 of 1, so everyone goes crazy over them, but I think there's something really morally wrong about these cards. You take a perfectly awesome bat belonging to Jackie Robinson... then saw it off???!! That's like a crime or something. Wouldn't you want the whole bat?? If someone gave you a Jackie Robinson bat, would you saw it off to make a card? I guess someone will say, they saw off more pieces and make more money out of them... but that's just ridiculous. http://img.beckett.com/news/news-con...9/knobruth.jpg __________________ T206 Hall of Fame Run: 26/80 Hindu Back Run: 35/198 ? 1953 & 54 Topps Raw Set:100% Complete - VG-EX 1986 Fleer Basketball PSA Set - 100% Complete Grade: PSA 8

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Thinking Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 2,973	What is crazy is that the bat knob cards are sometimes worth more than if you had the full actual bat.

03-27-2015, 01:35 PM	#9
Morgoth Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,924	Bat Knob cards are designed collectibles, IMO the originals in original state always is more desirable. The last NT run of Bat Knobs had some horrible fakes from bats made 40 years after they were supposed to been used in a game. IF that keeps up I think people will get soured on them.

03-27-2015, 01:58 PM	#12
Natitude Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: VA Posts: 1,661	I personally have no desire to buy full game used bats, so I would love to have a bat knob collectible card in my collection. I just don't have the storage or display space for a full GU bat in my house. Same goes for a GU jersey. Maybe one or two I could frame and hang, but with cards I can collect multiple players and have a piece of their jersey. Not as cool I know. __________________ PC: Washington Nationals Collector

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nkdbacks Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: AZ Posts: 435 dmdback	Personally I am a sports card collector, and full pieces of memorabilia don't appeal to me. I absolutely see why they would, and in theory a full piece should be more valuable, but I enjoy collecting cards so a bat knob 1/1 card would definitely hold more appeal to me than a full bat. __________________ Collecting all cards of the Arizona Diamondbacks - especially interested in: Brandon Webb, Corbin Carroll & Paul Goldschmidt, Ketel Marte, Jay Bell, Steve Finley, Luis Gonzalez