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Old 01-19-2015, 10:03 AM   #1
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Default So, am I the only Packers fan

who really isn't upset this morning?

Yeah, the end of the game sucked, and the D and special teams not really showing up, but seriously, considering the fact that they made it to the NFC championship team and beat the Cowboys in the playoffs for the first time since the Ice Bowl, I'm pretty happy with how the team performed this year. Not the best ending, but a lot of really good games, and Rodgers should be a shoe in for MVP.

Of course, I should say it would have been nice to have a reason to watch the Super Bowl (for me, this will be the most unwatchable in recent memory now), but not everybody can win and go. NFC North division (again), 17 of the last 22 seasons in the playoffs, NFL MVP for what should be the second season in the last 4.....

I don't know, I'm an optimist. Rodgers doesn't have a big contract coming, the Packers are well under cap (again), and they made it to the NFC Championship game. A few more draft picks, a couple of rookies making their sophomore improvements, and maybe a nice FA pickup like Peppers again and I think they'll be right back in the hunt of things again next year.

Let's just hope that the schedulers don't feel the need to make the Seahawks an honorary NFC North team again next season. Once a season is enough...
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:14 AM   #2
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I'm a Packers fan too. I'm not a fan of the way the team believed they had this game "in the bag" with 5 minutes to play. It's kinda of comical--at right around 5 minutes to play, after an interception by the Packers, cameras panned to a content Clay Matthews tending to his hair, a Mike McCarthy congratulating players with a sense of "we're going to the SuperBowl," and Packers hugging each other like the game was over. Then the Packers take the field and run the ball three times and punt--and they don't seem to care.

I don't think it was the defense or the special teams--the failure was bigger than that--after the interception they believed the game was over with just over 5 minutes left. This was a failure by McCarthy, and the whole Packer team.
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:21 AM   #3
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I'm not sad here. (deep packer house) I was deeply conflicted with how the game ended. RWilson would have been the only one to blame (from most POVs) for the 'hawks horrible half, but he was the one who was able to steer them towards that sliver of light that could still barely be seen at the end of the tunnel...
wife is feeling even better today... we are both Wilson fans ( he's from our RVA, went to UW which is our house alma mater.
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:22 AM   #4
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McCarthy = Andy Reid in the playoffs. Way too conservative when it comes to crunch time. If you're happy with Division titles with the best QB/Player in the NFL good for you. I expect more.
Epic failure by the McCarthy and the coaching staff.
Props to the Def. for playing an outstanding game, they got tired toward the end and we gave Seattle chances to win.
I'm not saying we fire McCarthy, but this is who he is. A good coach not a great one.
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:32 AM   #5
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I agree with you man. I'm really not sad or disappointed, just confused. We had that game in the BAG. I'd say it was the packers losing the game rather than the seahawks winning it. As for bostick, even though he said he was only there to block, you have to make that catch. Most high schoolers would have caught that, and he's a professional player. Inexcusable.
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:32 AM   #6
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McCarthy = Andy Reid in the playoffs. Way too conservative when it comes to crunch time. If you're happy with Division titles with the best QB/Player in the NFL good for you. I expect more.
Epic failure by the McCarthy and the coaching staff.
Props to the Def. for playing an outstanding game, they got tired toward the end and we gave Seattle chances to win.
I'm not saying we fire McCarthy, but this is who he is. A good coach not a great one.
I guess it's being a fan of one of the most successful teams in NFL history to be able to say that 4 straight division titles, a Super Bowl win, 2 NFL MVP awards in the last 4 years and an NFC Championship game appearance this year can be a major disappointment. I guess my expectations are different. I want them to be competitive (they are), I want them to do well (which they did until the 4th quarter yesterday), and I want them to be dedicated to trying to be competitive again next year (which they will be). Maybe it's because I live in the Bungles area that makes me realize how lucky I am to have been a fan of a great franchise like the Packers for the last 27 years.... And, that I wasn't around to be a fan of the Pack from the late 60's through to the mid 80's.... I mean, HOF caliber WR in Sterling Sharpe before Favre came and nothing for him. Lofton (actually in the HOF) had to leave and go to Buffalo and Oakland to be able to be on a competitive team...

Was yesterday disappointing? Massively. Am I proud of them for even making it to that point and actually making it a game when everybody said they had no chance? Definitely. I guess I must be in the minority with that viewpoint cause everywhere I look, it's like this season was a major letdown for most Packers fans and I just don't understand that considering that everybody was saying they didn't have any chance at all.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:22 AM   #7
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I'm disappointed but not crushed as well. I was sure we were going to lose going into the game anyway. The only reason I'm hurt today is because victory was ours from the opening whistle.

1)We have many years ahead of us of being in contention for a Super Bowl.

2)We will be better next year with a healthy Rodgers and no losses of key players. (We have the $ to sign both Cobb and Bulaga)

3)Seattle will most likely lose Lynch and they will have to rely much more heavily on R.Wilson which isn't what you want as a Seahawk fan. This team is built a certain way for a certain reason. Winning with Wilson in the pocket will be tough.

4)Hopefully McCarthy will FINALLY learn that being unbelievably conservative wins you jack. Oh, and you have AARON RODGERS AS YOUR QB!!!!!!!!

5)We totally dominated what was supposed to be a better team on what was supposed to be the hardest place to play. We f 'ed up at MULTIPLE points in the game, that is why Seattle won. We will learn and move on.

No one is successful all of the time; that's just life. On to 2015!
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:25 AM   #8
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I'm still pretty ticked. McCarthy needs to learn to be more aggressive with his play calling. I've never been a fan of his and this doesn't help any lol. I would feel better today honestly, had the Packers just gotten killed like everyone expected. But the game they had, man...heart breaking.

Here's to hoping this is a chip on their shoulder for next season and resigning Cobb.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:28 AM   #9
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who really isn't upset this morning?

Yeah, the end of the game sucked, and the D and special teams not really showing up, but seriously, considering the fact that they made it to the NFC championship team and beat the Cowboys in the playoffs for the first time since the Ice Bowl, I'm pretty happy with how the team performed this year. Not the best ending, but a lot of really good games, and Rodgers should be a shoe in for MVP.

Of course, I should say it would have been nice to have a reason to watch the Super Bowl (for me, this will be the most unwatchable in recent memory now), but not everybody can win and go. NFC North division (again), 17 of the last 22 seasons in the playoffs, NFL MVP for what should be the second season in the last 4.....

I don't know, I'm an optimist. Rodgers doesn't have a big contract coming, the Packers are well under cap (again), and they made it to the NFC Championship game. A few more draft picks, a couple of rookies making their sophomore improvements, and maybe a nice FA pickup like Peppers again and I think they'll be right back in the hunt of things again next year.

Let's just hope that the schedulers don't feel the need to make the Seahawks an honorary NFC North team again next season. Once a season is enough...
There is a clinical term for everything you just described: Denial.

Enjoy that MVP award Rodgers.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:31 AM   #10
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I'm disappointed but not crushed as well. I was sure we were going to lose going into the game anyway. The only reason I'm hurt today is because victory was ours from the opening whistle.

1)We have many years ahead of us of being in contention for a Super Bowl.

2)We will be better next year with a healthy Rodgers and no losses of key players. (We have the $ to sign both Cobb and Bulaga)

3)Seattle will most likely lose Lynch and they will have to rely much more heavily on R.Wilson which isn't what you want as a Seahawk fan. This team is built a certain way for a certain reason. Winning with Wilson in the pocket will be tough.

4)Hopefully McCarthy will FINALLY learn that being unbelievably conservative wins you jack. Oh, and you have AARON RODGERS AS YOUR QB!!!!!!!!

5)We totally dominated what was supposed to be a better team on what was supposed to be the hardest place to play. We f 'ed up at MULTIPLE points in the game, that is why Seattle won. We will learn and move on.

No one is successful all of the time; that's just life. On to 2015!
I hear you. I'm a fan as well. But for me, all those accolades you listed are meaningless without a few Super bowl rings. I'll never be content with them just making the playoffs.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:46 AM   #11
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There is a clinical term for everything you just described: Denial.

Enjoy that MVP award Rodgers.
Denial of what? That they lost? No, I know they lost and accept it. That they blew the game? No, I know they lost the game because of some pretty basic/stupid mistakes. What else am I in denial of? They got the conference championship game, which means they were one of the 4 best teams this year. 28 other teams wish they were there to lose!

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I hear you. I'm a fan as well. But for me, all those accolades you listed are meaningless without a few Super bowl rings. I'll never be content with them just making the playoffs.
Meaningless? I wouldn't call them meaningless. Not as meaningful? Ok, I would agree with that. I see teams like the Raiders, Bengals, Browns, Lions, etc etc etc etc etc that haven't won a playoff game or haven't even gone to the playoffs since the Packers last didn't go to the playoffs and am glad that the team I chose to root for is continually a contender in this league of parity.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:47 AM   #12
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I hear you. I'm a fan as well. But for me, all those accolades you listed are meaningless without a few Super bowl rings. I'll never be content with them just making the playoffs.
Yes, but life isn't all about success, it's about putting yourself in a position to be successful. Brady is about to go to his 6th Super Bowl and if he loses he and the Patriots will still be one of the all-time teams/QB's. We will not win the Super Bowl every year but as long as we have a real shot at it is all you can ask for. Staying a successful franchise will eventually lead to Super Bowls, hell we already have 4.

Here is what haunts me still. Just pulled it off of my DVR. Burnett with ball in hand after the INT. Picture says it all....

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Yes, but life isn't all about success, it's about putting yourself in a position to be successful. Brady is about to go to his 6th Super Bowl and if he loses he and the Patriots will still be one of the all-time teams/QB's. We will not win the Super Bowl every year but as long as we have a real shot at it is all you can ask for. Staying a successful franchise will eventually lead to Super Bowls, hell we already have 4.
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Old 01-19-2015, 12:42 PM   #14
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Not sad. I knew the Packers would not win. I honestly was hoping for more a blowout opposed to how they lost the game. I am a fan of Russell Wilson since he played for the Badgers so I will be rooting him on in hopes of winning back to back SB's.
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Yes, but life isn't all about success, it's about putting yourself in a position to be successful. Brady is about to go to his 6th Super Bowl and if he loses he and the Patriots will still be one of the all-time teams/QB's. We will not win the Super Bowl every year but as long as we have a real shot at it is all you can ask for. Staying a successful franchise will eventually lead to Super Bowls, hell we already have 4.

Here is what haunts me still. Just pulled it off of my DVR. Burnett with ball in hand after the INT. Picture says it all....

[IMG][/IMG]
Man, that is a lot of open field ahead. What the hell?
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I didn't realize he had so much open field in front of him.
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Old 01-19-2015, 12:51 PM   #17
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I was more disappointed by the way the game played out. I accepted before the game that the Packers were dogs and there was a good chance the season would be over.

But to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory just hurt like no other. I didn't think that the best defensive performance of the year would be wasted like this.

So many miscues where just avoiding one probably wins the game.

I don't think anyone should be fired or released. The one saving grace is the Packers have a team that can hang with anyone. That is a good sign.
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Just when I was getting over the loss and coming to grips with it, I see that picture of Morgan Burnett with the INT and the whole right side of the field open. GAHHHHHHH. We should be the Super Bowl. I think we could have taken the Patriots and won it all.
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I remember seeing that and I was in awe. It's like he thought there was a minute left and the offense would just run the clock out.

I agree with Tommy that no one should be fired or released, that would just be an unnecessary knee jerk reaction
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1)We have many years ahead of us of being in contention for a Super Bowl.
Yes but..........

2)We will be better next year with a healthy Rodgers and no losses of key players. (We have the $ to sign both Cobb and Bulaga)
Can't say Rodgers won't get injured or other won't be injured as in 2012 and 2013.

4)Hopefully McCarthy will FINALLY learn that being unbelievably conservative wins you jack. Oh, and you have AARON RODGERS AS YOUR QB!!!!!!!!
Never.................
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:37 PM   #21
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I am not upset, but I am flabbergasted at how it ended. So many things came into play for that loss to happen. The football gods were just not on the Packers side this time around.
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I'm not sure how you can say you're not upset this morning as a Packers fan. We had our tickets to the Super Bowl punched if we could just execute a few more plays. Not only that we were about to pull off something nobody thought we could do, beat the Seahawks in Seattle, a hot Seahawks team at that.

Rodgers, Nelson, Matthews are all getting a bit older, three to four years left of prime play from those guys. Not only that the last time we were in a NFC title game was what four years ago. To be satisfied with losing at this stage is to take for granted how often these conference championships come around.

We have a much tougher schedule next year, playing against the NFC west, Peppers is a year older, we don't build through free agency and Cutler maybe leaving Chicago, uh oh. Plus Detroit is a very solid division opponent with a fantastic coach. It's going to be quite the challenge to replicate this years success next year.

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The Green Bay Packers’ opponents for 2015 are as follows:

HOME: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, Kansas City Chiefs, St. Louis Rams, San Diego Chargers, Seattle Seahawks

AWAY: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Arizona Cardinals, Carolina Panthers, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, San Francisco 49ers
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McCarthy = Andy Reid in the playoffs. Way too conservative when it comes to crunch time. If you're happy with Division titles with the best QB/Player in the NFL good for you. I expect more.
Epic failure by the McCarthy and the coaching staff.
Props to the Def. for playing an outstanding game, they got tired toward the end and we gave Seattle chances to win.
I'm not saying we fire McCarthy, but this is who he is. A good coach not a great one.
Good analogy but having lived through Andy Reid and his bull headed approach to the game I'd take McCarthy over Reid every day of the week. However, kicking a FG from inside the 1 on 4th and goal in a game of that magnitude makes you wonder what his players think because as an outsider I'm shaking my head at how gutless that was. Hate Belichick or Pete Carroll all you want but they both go for it in that situation without hesitation. It sends a message to the other team and more importantly to your team that you have faith in them and even if they don't make it that your defense will make up for it. Good players will respond to that kind of coaching. It tells them you believe not only in your system but them as well. It's a shame because Dom Capers put a hell of a game plan in to give the Pack a chance and McCarthy blew it. Based on what Erin Andrews said McCarthy told her at the half it sounded like he thought the Seahawks would just roll over in the second half.
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Why did they not play Starks more? He seemed to be blasting through the hole. Now Lacy looked like he was hesitant after the hand off. I don't have to tell any of you what type of back Lacy needs to be, look at his body shape and size. Top it all off looked like Lacy was banged up and sat on the bench for some time. Brought him out when we were trying to run the clock down and he looked SLOOOOOOOW and hesitant. I think Starks was not used enough.

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