New Paypal terms effective 11/18

Gurds · 10-03-2014, 02:03 PM

Just saw an email from PayPal and the most glaring update I saw was buyers of merchandise will now have 180 days to file an item not received claim vs the 45 days now.

Just a FYI for everyone

Bulldog55D · 10-03-2014, 02:07 PM

Ugh.... Buyers remorse is going to get so much worse.

shayscards79 · 10-03-2014, 02:10 PM

I was reading this earlier.... How pointless, can people not deduce within 45 days if their package was shipped and/or in the condition it was listed as? Next thing you now, PayPal will want sellers to offer a one year warranty on all items.

mnvikingstwins · 10-03-2014, 02:10 PM

So you could have someone buying prospects in April, only to return them in September if the season was unsuccessful. That's ridiculous.

kinar · 10-03-2014, 02:24 PM

On the other hand, shouldn't this help people buying pre-sale boxes that never get delivered?

JzWand · 10-03-2014, 02:27 PM

6 months????
SMH.

babyfaceposey · 10-03-2014, 03:47 PM

Wow. Guess it is finally time to open a COMC account. No way in hell I am setting myself up for this mess.

callou2131 · 10-03-2014, 03:53 PM

Buy gold. It goes up, keep it. It goes down, send it back. Do they want scammers to thrive?

timfsu2k · 10-03-2014, 03:53 PM

There has got to be something else to this. Surely they don't expect sellers to honor returns six months after the fact. That is insane.

ctbinvestments · 10-03-2014, 04:02 PM

Wow, another reason i don't sell on ebay anymore. By selling here if someone returns a card or files a claim 3 months later you can make a pretty interesting thread about them retuning an item after 3 months!!!

brewcrew8 · 10-03-2014, 04:11 PM

Hahahaha! Is this a joke?

HadWayTooMuch · 10-03-2014, 04:13 PM

I'm figuring low end card sellers won't have a problem but when you sell that $300 or more card...pray!

speedyjg13 · 10-03-2014, 04:26 PM

Well this sucks... Fn scammers prob love this

chezball · 10-03-2014, 04:32 PM

Sellers selling chrome will get scammed big time.Sell all your chrome now.

StraWMyerS · 10-03-2014, 04:50 PM

This sucks. I might have to start selling here instead. Pick your poison I guess..

xbignick · 10-03-2014, 05:06 PM

There was a big thread in football a week back on this. Think someone pointed out that tracking doesn't even stay active for 6 months in some cases.

TakaTanakaGiant · 10-03-2014, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbignick

There was a big thread in football a week back on this. Think someone pointed out that tracking doesn't even stay active for 6 months in some cases.

I was worried about this as well. One of the tracking options I use is only valid for 60 days. That's for tracking AND insurance.
If a buyer tries to return something as damaged, I'm probably screwed there as well.

hollands · 10-03-2014, 05:19 PM

I wonder if eBay's 30 day policy will supersede this (also odd that they would have such a big difference between the 2)?

refuse24 · 10-03-2014, 05:32 PM

Looks like this new policy broke the camel's back for me and I guess it's "Box Breaking" going forward

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nera20 · 10-03-2014, 05:40 PM

the person returning something better have a valid excuse for returning something so far after purchasing especially a sports card. Might be time to get rid of paypal and find something else

trixstar · 10-03-2014, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollands

I wonder if eBay's 30 day policy will supersede this (also odd that they would have such a big difference between the 2)?

This is a good point, especially since Ebay and Paypal are splitting.

trixstar · 10-03-2014, 06:15 PM

Guess what, we're already within the window...Anything sold as of June 2014 will qualify

JMarchand1981 · 10-03-2014, 06:21 PM

PayPal did this to protect themselves from people who link their credit cards to PayPal. Most credit cards have a 180 day window. The way it was is that PayPal would eat any filebacks done between days 46 and 180. Now, Paypal has pushed those liability days back on the seller. It isn't right and it really exposes the seller to chargebacks.

Frankp2311 · 10-03-2014, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by callou2131

Buy gold. It goes up, keep it. It goes down, send it back. Do they want scammers to thrive?

I don't think eBay allows returns on gold or silver.

jk1937 · 10-03-2014, 07:04 PM

I sell used items such as watches watches on ebay too. so now a buyer could wear it for 3 months, drop it and return it as not working (not as described)? that is ridiculous.

10-03-2014, 02:03 PM	#1
Gurds Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 8,700 gurds22 gurds	New Paypal terms effective 11/18 Just saw an email from PayPal and the most glaring update I saw was buyers of merchandise will now have 180 days to file an item not received claim vs the 45 days now. Just a FYI for everyone __________________ Dress code: Black tie optional. Just like life.

10-03-2014, 03:53 PM	#8
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,473	Buy gold. It goes up, keep it. It goes down, send it back. Do they want scammers to thrive? __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

10-03-2014, 03:53 PM	#9
timfsu2k Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 2,578	There has got to be something else to this. Surely they don't expect sellers to honor returns six months after the fact. That is insane. __________________ Nolan Ryan Collector

10-03-2014, 04:02 PM	#10
ctbinvestments Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 6,504 ctbinvestments	Wow, another reason i don't sell on ebay anymore. By selling here if someone returns a card or files a claim 3 months later you can make a pretty interesting thread about them retuning an item after 3 months!!! __________________ My basics about prospecting: "The higher draft pick isn't always the best player" & "Don't buy the hype, buy the results"

10-03-2014, 04:26 PM	#13
speedyjg13 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 17,167	Well this sucks... Fn scammers prob love this __________________ Current PC: Mike Trout Prior PC: David Fletcher & Jered Weaver https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedyjg13/albums

10-03-2014, 02:07 PM	#2
Bulldog55D Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Connecticut Posts: 734 thebulldog55d Bulldog55d	Ugh.... Buyers remorse is going to get so much worse.

10-03-2014, 02:10 PM	#3
shayscards79 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,876 shayscards79	I was reading this earlier.... How pointless, can people not deduce within 45 days if their package was shipped and/or in the condition it was listed as? Next thing you now, PayPal will want sellers to offer a one year warranty on all items.

10-03-2014, 02:10 PM	#4
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,189 ski_4 ski_4	So you could have someone buying prospects in April, only to return them in September if the season was unsuccessful. That's ridiculous.

10-03-2014, 02:24 PM	#5
kinar Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,606 kinar kinar	On the other hand, shouldn't this help people buying pre-sale boxes that never get delivered?

10-03-2014, 02:27 PM	#6
JzWand Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Burlington Ontario Canada Posts: 1,141 daburgerboy	6 months???? SMH.

10-03-2014, 03:47 PM	#7
babyfaceposey Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 8,310 Babyfaceposey	Wow. Guess it is finally time to open a COMC account. No way in hell I am setting myself up for this mess.

10-03-2014, 04:11 PM	#11
brewcrew8 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,345 brewcrew2_2	Hahahaha! Is this a joke?

10-03-2014, 04:13 PM	#12
HadWayTooMuch Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: I'm not in Kansas anymore... Posts: 8,206	I'm figuring low end card sellers won't have a problem but when you sell that $300 or more card...pray!

10-03-2014, 04:32 PM	#14
chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,676 jabber	Sellers selling chrome will get scammed big time.Sell all your chrome now.

10-03-2014, 04:50 PM	#15
StraWMyerS Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,144 jnrmint511	This sucks. I might have to start selling here instead. Pick your poison I guess..

10-03-2014, 05:06 PM	#16
xbignick Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 29,306 xxbignick	There was a big thread in football a week back on this. Think someone pointed out that tracking doesn't even stay active for 6 months in some cases. __________________ @xxbignick on twitter

10-03-2014, 05:19 PM	#18
hollands Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,992 j.hollands	I wonder if eBay's 30 day policy will supersede this (also odd that they would have such a big difference between the 2)?

10-03-2014, 05:32 PM	#19
refuse24 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,929	Looks like this new policy broke the camel's back for me and I guess it's "Box Breaking" going forward .

10-03-2014, 05:40 PM	#20
nera20 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 35,253	the person returning something better have a valid excuse for returning something so far after purchasing especially a sports card. Might be time to get rid of paypal and find something else __________________ USA SHIPPING ONLY

10-03-2014, 06:15 PM	#22
trixstar Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 24,170 stunner316	Guess what, we're already within the window...Anything sold as of June 2014 will qualify

10-03-2014, 06:21 PM	#23
JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,438	PayPal did this to protect themselves from people who link their credit cards to PayPal. Most credit cards have a 180 day window. The way it was is that PayPal would eat any filebacks done between days 46 and 180. Now, Paypal has pushed those liability days back on the seller. It isn't right and it really exposes the seller to chargebacks.

10-03-2014, 07:04 PM	#25
jk1937 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 253	I sell used items such as watches watches on ebay too. so now a buyer could wear it for 3 months, drop it and return it as not working (not as described)? that is ridiculous.