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Old 03-19-2014, 01:28 PM   #1
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Exclamation BIG EXQUISITE LOST/STOLEN Box ( MJ/Kobe/LeBron/KG/Bird/Rose...many others) NEED HELP!

Hi Guys,
unfortunately I'm here today for ask your help and support, instead of talking about this great hobby...but although I'm an high-end collector it doesn't mean I'm rich (well, I'm lucky and we have some money to spend) but this lost is really heavy for me and my family!!
With a great member on here, I usually send him my cards for grading and he helps me with Beckett, really hard to me also because like all the non-US collector customs and overseas shipment is always a trouble and this time the shipment had a big ISSUE!!
Like I asked to him he sent via Usps EMs box...really big box (about 29lbs) with a lots of high-end cards and almost all Exquisite!!
I was checking the shipping via USPS.com and I was excited because on Friday the box will be here...the guy arrived and given me the box and it was smaller than a shoes box and less than 2 lbs...so I asked him if there was an error, but he told me, no this is your box sir!
So I opened it and I found a microphone, what? I first thought my friend could did an error...but ? But he is always precise and can't do an error on a high shipment!! on the shipping documents attached all was fine, also the weights 29 LBS!!! What?!?! So I immediately called italian post to do a complaint but I think the can't do much, because I think my box never left the USA. I asked them which box they received and the girl at the phone told me they have pics of all international boxes and the one with that tracking was the small box of about 2lbs I received at home!
My friend will call police and also ship a list od cards to LCS...I called police too, but they told I can't do nothing, because juridically the ownership of the box is of the sender and so I can't do a official complaint, damn!!
May be was only a regular shipping issue, but at this days with all this scammer arround we always think the worst way...I think someone opened the box and exchanged the shipping documents. Placed my docs on a random box and keep the box or some of the cards!
I will provide pics of the cards, and I keep posted with news pics when I will find others on my PC or phone...instead the updated list of cards is this:


2009-10 Exquisite Bill Russell Number Pieces 4/6
2003-04 Exquisite Kobe Bryant Limited Logos 74/75
2007-08 Exquisite Chris Paul Patches Auto
2008-09 Exquisite Chris Paul Limited Logos 10/25 (Hornets logo)
2008-09 Exquisite David Lee Limited Logos
2008-09 Exquisite Chris Paul Noble Nameplates
2007-08 Exquisite Jordan/Rodman Finalists
2009-10 Exquisite Kevin Garnett Flashback Rookie 16/25
2009-10 Exquisite Kevin Garnett Flashback Rookie 22/25
2008-09 Exquisite Kobe Bryant Inscriptions Auto
2009-10 Exquisite Amare Stoudemire Limited Logos
2009-10 Exquisite Kevin Garnett Limited Logos
2009-10 Exquisite Larry Bird Limited Logos
2009-10 Exquisite Steve Nash Limited Logos 15/19
2009-10 Exquisite Michael Jordan Noble Nameplates 11/15
2009-10 Exquisite Paul Pierce Number Pieces 14/34
2009-10 Exquisite Lebron James Patches Auto 26/50
2003-04 SP Signature Edition Famous Nicknames Dennis Rodman Famous Nicknames 31/100

2009-10 Exquisite Barry Sanders Flashback
2009-10 Exquisite Adrian Peterson Flashback
2009-10 Exquisite Gordie Howe Flashback
2009-10 Exquisite Steve Yzerman Flashback
2009-10 Exquisite Patrick Roy Flashback
2009-10 Exquisite Mario Lemeiux Flashback
2009-10 Exquisite Sidney Crosby Flashback
2013 Crown Royal Shaq O'Neal Silhouettes


2009-10 Exquisite Andrew Bynum Patches Auto
2011-12 Exquisite Reggie Jackson Rookie Auto
2011-12 Exquisite Reggie Jackson Rookie Auto
2009-10 Exquisite Baron Davis Noble Nameplates
2009-10 Exquisite Jerry West Patches Auto
2012-13 Flawless Chris Mullin Greats Patch Auto
2009-10 Exquisite Derrick Rose Patches Auto 34/50
2012-13 Immaculate Kwhi Leonard Rookie Auto

2009-10 Exquisite Dwyane Wade Base
2009-10 Exquisite Kevin Durant Base
2009-10 Exquisite Lebron James Base
2009-10 Exquisite Lebron James Base
2009-10 Exquisite Kobe Bryant Base
2009-10 Exquisite Steve Nash Base
2009-10 Exquisite Ray Allen Base
2009-10 Exquisite Manu Ginobili Base
2009-10 Exquisite Derrick Rose Base
2009-10 Exquisite Deron Williams Base
2009-10 Exquisite Yi Jianlian Base
2009-10 Exquisite Vince Carter Base
2009-10 Exquisite Dwight Howard Base
2009-10 Exquisite Carmelo Anthony Base
2009-10 Exquisite Shaquille O'Neal Base
2009-10 Exquisite Chris Paul Base
2009-10 Exquisite Tracy McGrady Base
2009-10 Exquisite Chris Bosh Base
2009-10 Exquisite Andre Iguodala Base
2009-10 Exquisite Greg Oden Base
2009-10 Exquisite Al Jefferson Base
2009-10 Exquisite Pau Gasol Base
2009-10 Exquisite Andre Iguodala Base
2009-10 Exquisite Joe Johnson Base
2009-10 Exquisite Danny Granger Base
2009-10 Exquisite Luke Ridnour Base
2009-10 Exquisite Brandon Roy Base
2009-10 Exquisite David Lee Base
2009-10 Exquisite Kevin Martin Base
2009-10 Exquisite O.J. Mayo Base
2009-10 Exquisite Dirk Nowitzki Base
2009-10 Exquisite Gerald Wallace Base
2009-10 Exquisite Russell Westbrook Base
2009-10 Exquisite Vince Carter Base
2009-10 Exquisite Paul Pierce Base
2009-10 Exquisite Zach Randolph Base
2009-10 Exquisite Yi Jianlian Base
2009-10 Exquisite Kevin Garneett Base
2009-10 Exquisite Tim Duncan Base
2009-10 Exquisite Dwight Howard Base
2009-10 Exquisite Mo Williams Base
2009-10 Exquisite Yao Ming Base


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List with BGS infos:


7885876 2003-04 SP Signature Edition Famous Nicknames Dennis Rodman/100/The Worm 9 10
7885802 2007-08 Exquisite Collection Autographs Patches Chris Paul 8.5 10
7885807 2007-08 Exquisite Collection Finalists Autographs Dual Michael Jordan/Dennis Rodman 8.5 10
7885809 2008-09 Exquisite Collection Inscriptions Kobe Bryant/24 9 10
7885813 2008-09 Exquisite Collection Limited Logos Chris Paul/25 8.5 10
7885812 2008-09 Exquisite Collection Limited Logos David Lee/25 8.5 10
7885800 2008-09 Exquisite Collection Noble Nameplates Chris Paul/25 9 10



7885831 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Autographs Patches LeBron James 8.5 9
7885832 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Autographs Patches LeBron James 9 10
7885834 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Autographs Patches Michael Jordan 8.5 10
7885785 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Limited Logos Amare Stoudemire/15 8.5 9
7885784 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Limited Logos Kevin Garnett/10 9 10
7885786 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Limited Logos Larry Bird/16 9 10
7885787 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Limited Logos Steve Nash/19 8.5 10

7885842 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Noble Nameplates Michael Jordan/15 8.5 10
7885817 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Numbers Paul Pierce/34 9 10

7885756 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Kevin Garnett/25 9 10
7885757 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Kevin Garnett/25 Does Not Meet Minimum Grade 0
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7999719 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Autographs Patches Derrick Rose 8.5 10 NG
7999720 2012-13 Immaculate Collection Jumbo Patch Autographs Kawhi Leonard/75 9 9 NG
7999723 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Numbers Bill Russell/6 8.5 10 NG
7999731 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Autographs Patches Jerry West 9 9 NG
7999732 2012-13 Panini Flawless Greats Patches Autographs Gold Chris Mullin 8 10 NG
7999737 2011-12 Exquisite Collection Reggie Jackson AU 8.5 10 NG
7999739 2011-12 Exquisite Collection Reggie Jackson AU 9 10 NG
7999740 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Autographs Patches Andrew Bynum 8.5 10 NG
7999742 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Noble Nameplates Baron Davis/19 6.5 10 NG

7999749 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Adrian Peterson/25 8 9 NG
7999750 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Mario Lemieux/25 8.5 10 NG
7999752 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Sidney Crosby/25 8.5 10 NG
7999753 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Patrick Roy/25 8.5 10 NG
7999754 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Gordie Howe/25 7.5 10 NG
7999760 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Rookie Patch Flashback Barry Sanders/25 8.5 10 NG
7999762 2012-13 Panini Preferred Shaquille O'Neal SL JSY AU/10 9 10 NG
7999763 2009-10 Exquisite Collection LeBron James 8 0 NG
7999765 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Kobe Bryant 8 0 NG
7999773 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Dwight Howard 8.5 0 NG
7999774 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Dwight Howard 8.5 0 NG
7999775 2009-10 Exquisite Collection LeBron James 6.5 0 NG
7999776 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Dwyane Wade 9 0 NG
7999777 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Yao Ming 8.5 0 NG
7999778 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Tim Duncan 9 0 NG
7999779 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Kevin Garnett 7.5 0 NG
7999780 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Yi Jianlian 8 0 NG
7999781 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Yi Jianlian 8.5 0 NG
7999782 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Tracy McGrady 8 0 NG
7999783 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Chris Paul 8.5 0 NG
7999784 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Shaquille O'Neal 8 0 NG
7999785 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Carmelo Anthony 7.5 0 NG
7999786 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Vince Carter 7.5 0 NG
7999787 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Vince Carter 7 0 NG
7999788 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Dirk Nowitzki 8.5 0 NG
7999789 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Chris Bosh 8.5 0 NG
7999790 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Manu Ginobili 8.5 0 NG
7999791 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Pau Gasol 8.5 0 NG
7999792 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Ray Allen 8 0 NG
7999793 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Paul Pierce 9 0 NG
7999796 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Steve Nash 8 0 NG
7999797 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Luke Ridnour 8 0 NG
7999798 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Derrick Rose 8 0 NG
7999799 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Brandon Roy 8 0 NG
7999800 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Joe Johnson 8 0 NG
7999801 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Danny Granger 8.5 0 NG
7999802 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Greg Oden 8.5 0 NG
7999803 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Al Jefferson 8.5 0 NG
7999804 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Kevin Durant 9 0 NG
7999805 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Andre Iguodala 8.5 0 NG
7999806 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Andre Iguodala 8.5 0 NG
7999807 2009-10 Exquisite Collection David Lee 8.5 0 NG
7999808 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Kevin Martin 8 0 NG
7999809 2009-10 Exquisite Collection O.J. Mayo 8.5 0 NG
7999810 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Zach Randolph 8.5 0 NG
7999811 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Gerald Wallace 8 0 NG
7999812 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Russell Westbrook 8.5 0 NG
7999815 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Deron Williams 8.5 0 NG
7999816 2009-10 Exquisite Collection Mo Williams 8 0 NG

If someone will find soem card or someone will contact you for buy some, please send me a message to, enrico-ebz@libero.it

THANKS A LOT GUYS!!
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Old 03-19-2014, 01:45 PM   #2
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1) Is your box received the same box as your friend sent out?

2) Can your friend show the receipt of the postal cost? The cost should reflect 29lbs, not 2lbs

3) How did your friend ship the box? Did he go to post office and buy the label?

4) How did your friend write your address? Did he write on a paper or write directly on the package?

5) Does the stamp show the location of purchace?
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wow, that is a horrible story - I'm really sorry to hear about it and will keep an eye out. I had a similar thing happen with the USPS where somehow they claimed that the label came off the box. Funny thing is that we found some of the cards at the National.
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Old 03-19-2014, 01:51 PM   #4
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I will definitely keep an eye out for these cards.
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1) Is your box received the same box as your friend sent out?

2) Can your friend show the receipt of the postal cost? The cost should reflect 29lbs, not 2lbs

3) How did your friend ship the box? Did he go to post office and buy the label?

4) How did your friend write your address? Did he write on a paper or write directly on the package?

5) Does the stamp show the location of purchace?
Good questions,
sincerely I didn't ask any of those questions to my friend, because I trust him...I can ask him the numbers 3, 4 and 5
He told me he shipped in the usual office where he ships all his shipment, but I don't know else...I will ask.
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wow, that is a horrible story - I'm really sorry to hear about it and will keep an eye out. I had a similar thing happen with the USPS where somehow they claimed that the label came off the box. Funny thing is that we found some of the cards at the National.
Thanks man!!
What?!! Did you have a similar issue and they didn't find your box....after that you found some of your cards at the National??!!
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I will definitely keep an eye out for these cards.
Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate this
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Good questions,
sincerely I didn't ask any of those questions to my friend, because I trust him...I can ask him the numbers 3, 4 and 5
He told me he shipped in the usual office where he ships all his shipment, but I don't know else...I will ask.
Thanks!!
I just try to help you because you don't want to want until those cards popping on ebay. That will be WAY too late. You want to get the most information within 3 days and ask your friend to file police report within a week.

This was on the news yesterday. It is a federal crime. If someone does it in the office, most often this is not the only time he/she does it.

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Holy sh*t!!! I will let you know if I see any of these.
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I just try to help you because you don't want to want until those cards popping on ebay. That will be WAY too late. You want to get the most information within 3 days and ask your friend to file police report within a week.

This was on the news yesterday. It is a federal crime. If someone does it in the office, most often this is not the only time he/she does it.

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Yes I know this ans I really appreciate your help!
Why did you talk of 3 days? Is it the max limit of time to open the claim?

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Yes I know this ans I really appreciate your help!
Why did you talk of 3 days? Is it the max limit of time to open the claim?

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I don't think you can report stolen items not after 72 hours. Anyway, it is just a rough timeline. Just don't wait a week before you or your friend talks to the police.
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Very sorry to hear about your loss, I will keep an eye out as well. One question though, these were your cards, or your friends? Just a bit confused.
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I don't think you can report stolen items not after 72 hours. Anyway, it is just a rough timeline. Just don't wait a week before you or your friend talks to the police.
Ok thanks for the infos!!!
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Very sorry to hear about your loss, I will keep an eye out as well. One question though, these were your cards, or your friends? Just a bit confused.
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All the cards are mine, my friend just helped me out with grading.
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How much insurance did ur friend put on the package?
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How much insurance did ur friend put on the package?
No insurance, because with customs fees I have to pay about %25 of the amount declared and we always did like this time and never had issues! Customs don't trust those items are mine if I putted real value I had to pay about $6250 in customs on some cards are already mine!!!
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No insurance, because with customs fees I have to pay about %25 of the amount declared and we always did like this time and never had issues! Customs don't trust those items are mine if I putted real value I had to pay about $6250 in customs on some cards are already mine!!!
Then it's hard to claim any loss to post office and maybe even police since the pCkage had no value. You will probably need to get a lawyer involved just to get the attention of the post office to do a investigation. Yea that really sux and ure in a bad spot
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Then it's hard to claim any loss to post office and maybe even police since the pCkage had no value. You will probably need to get a lawyer involved just to get the attention of the post office to do a investigation. Yea that really sux and ure in a bad spot
Yes you are right!! I was lucky in those 10+ years of overseas collector, but with this loss I think to be burned for life....
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EMS should come with $100 worth of insurance no matter what you claim.

I would put a claim in for that and just see what happens.

I've seen a few instances where packages were lost, and they magically reappeared after insurance claims were filed.
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EMS should come with $100 worth of insurance no matter what you claim.

I would put a claim in for that and just see what happens.

I've seen a few instances where packages were lost, and they magically reappeared after insurance claims were filed.
Really??! It will be AMAZING!!!!!
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EMS should come with $100 worth of insurance no matter what you claim.

I would put a claim in for that and just see what happens.

I've seen a few instances where packages were lost, and they magically reappeared after insurance claims were filed.
I would think that if you file for the $100 insurance claim the matter would be closed in regards to the post office. I am not an attorney though. I suppose you are right though. File a claim and HOPE it is considered serious enough to look for the package.

Anyway, I am just curious because the cards involved are very high end cards and I do not dabble in that market....what is the sell value of the lost cards. My guess is $15-20k in sell value.
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I would think that if you file for the $100 insurance claim the matter would be closed in regards to the post office. I am not an attorney though. I suppose you are right though. File a claim and HOPE it is considered serious enough to look for the package.

Anyway, I am just curious because the cards involved are very high end cards and I do not dabble in that market....what is the sell value of the lost cards. My guess is $15-20k in sell value.
Yes the value is arround that money...may be $25k if the market will restart, now it's a bit frozen! I don't know what to think, but this kind of situation let me think about leaving the hobby....
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Enrico, you have my sympathies. This must be a truly awful situation to be in. I can't even imagine it.

Let's hope the cards turn up and/or you get the money/investment back somehow.
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Wow, just wow
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Enrico, you have my sympathies. This must be a truly awful situation to be in. I can't even imagine it.

Let's hope the cards turn up and/or you get the money/investment back somehow.
Thanks for the kind words Will!!
Yes I certainly do this hobby for passion like most of us, but at the same time I tried to invest also in cards I could sell in case of need...like you now are selling your Russell cards...sincerely I could lost that money, not easy to regain back all the money, but knowing some scammer earned them all, it's harder to accept than the loss itself!
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