How do this years rookies stack up to past years?

[ohiomike]

I'm a big believer in the Efficiency Rating stat (EFF) being a good indicator of a players worth. Tyreke Evans is the run away leader for the 2009-10 NBA ROY award, but I wondered how he was stacking up against past years rookies in efficiency rating. NBA.com has the stat for rookies going back to the 2003-04 season, so I compiled a list of all rookies in that time that had a rating of 14 or higher. I figured I'd share the results in case others were interested...

For those of you unfamiliar with the stat, here is the equation:

NBA.com evaluates all players based on the efficiency formula: ((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Field Goals Att. - Field Goals Made) + (Free Throws Att. - Free Throws Made) + Turnovers)).

1. Chris Paul , NOK (2005-06) 21.2
2. Tyreke Evans , SAC (2009-10)* 19.5
3. LeBron James , CLE (2003-04) 18.8
4. Emeka Okafor , CHA (2004-05) 18.3
5. Dwight Howard , ORL (2004-05) 17.9
6. Brook Lopez , NJN (2008-09) 17.4
7. Derrick Rose , CHI (2008-09) 17.1
8. Carmelo Anthony , DEN (2003-04) 16.9
9. Brandon Roy , POR (2006-07) 16.5
10. Al Horford , ATL (2007-08) 16.5
11. Marc Gasol , MEM (2008-09) 15.9
12. Kevin Durant , SEA (2007-08) 15.6
13. Brandon Jennings , MIL (2009-10)* 15.6
14. Dwyane Wade , MIA (2003-04) 15.4
15. Kevin Love , MIN (2008-09) 15.3
16. O.J. Mayo , MEM (2008-09) 14.7
17. Russell Westbrook , OKC (2008-09) 14.7
18. Chris Bosh , TOR (2003-04) 14.4
19. Andrew Bogut , MIL (2005-06) 14.3
20. Andre Iguodala , PHI (2004-05) 14.2
21. Kirk Hinrich , CHI (2003-04) 14.1
22. Stephen Curry , GSW (2009-10)* 14.1
23. Charlie Villanueva , TOR (2005-06) 14

* Season In progress

[ohiomike]

BTW... here's the top 10 leaders in EFF for 2009-10 (minimum of 20 games played):

1. LeBron James , CLE 30.9
2. Chris Paul , NOH 27.1
3. Chris Bosh , TOR 27
4. Tim Duncan , SAS 26.1
5. Pau Gasol , LAL 25.9
6. Kevin Durant , OKC 25.6
7. David Lee , NYK 25.5
8. Carmelo Anthony , DEN 25.3
9. Kobe Bryant , LAL 25.1
10. Dirk Nowitzki , DAL 24.9

[boxbreaker88]

lebron averaged 20.7 points per game in his rookie year not 18

[wolffer12]

Originally Posted by boxbreaker88

lebron averaged 20.7 points per game in his rookie year not 18

Way to read the thread bozo

[ohiomike]

Originally Posted by boxbreaker88

lebron averaged 20.7 points per game in his rookie year not 18

Yeah... those numbers aren't ppg. And thats exactly why I like the efficiency rating as a stat. It doesn't overvalue scoring, like the media has a tendency to do. Its not perfect, as it has a tendency to overvalue rebounder/blocked shot type guys and the top players on bad teams are likely to also end up higher than they would if they were playing on a better team (for example, I don't think anyone is going to make the argument that David Lee is a better player than Kobe Bryant) but the stat takes into account more than just points, rebounds, and assists, and does so with little to no bias.

[Brad]

With Redd out for the year (again, lol), Jennings should see his stats get a very nice boost and could very well take ROY from Evans.

[ohiomike]

Originally Posted by bradolson

With Redd out for the year (again, lol), Jennings should see his stats get a very nice boost and could very well take ROY from Evans.

It will definitely help his chances. He was averaging around 20 PPG before Redd came back, and only about 13.5 PPG while Redd was playing. Problem is that even if he gets back to averaging around 20 PPG, it will only equal what Evans has continued to do all year. So I think Evans production is going to have to fall off too... which could very well happen with Kevin Martin coming back at some point. All the stars are aligning for Jennings to have his best shot to win the award, but its going to be an uphill battle. He's got a lot of ground to make up.

[boxbreaker88]

i am sorry i wasnt paying attention

[crazymj]

I think so far the rookies are similar to last years. Derrick Rose OJ mayo vs Jennings and Tyreke Evans. If Blake Griffin can come out and average double double, then i can say that this year's rookie is better but who knows how he will do.

[UltimateDeron]

As a rookie Tyreke Evans is one of the best players I have ever seen come into the league. The kid just keeps amazing me. He has the ability to get anywhere on the court. He is a leader at age 20 and he is so very clutch.

[UltimateDeron]

Originally Posted by crazymj

I think so far the rookies are similar to last years. Derrick Rose OJ mayo vs Jennings and Tyreke Evans. If Blake Griffin can come out and average double double, then i can say that this year's rookie is better but who knows how he will do.

I wouldn't compare last years class to this year's class. The 2008 class is one of the best since 2003. It goes right up there with 2005. There are so many players from last year's class that are starting for their teams and producing. It is very hard to even think of a team other than the Lakers and the Celtics that don't have a player from last years draft that isn't starting or getting playing time.

[wolffer12]

Reke had the total NBA game coming into the league. I followed him very closely at Memphis and he had all the tools to be it.. I was shocked he fell to Sacramento and can't wait for K-Mart to get back as this team has a very bright future.

Deron is correct last years draft will go down as one of the best ever as the talent and depth was just amazing. It was about a once in every 10 year draft. Speaking of Sacramento how about Jason Thompson from last year. He is looking really good this year.

[boxbreaker88]

the 2008/09 draft was good but so many of the players havent developed yet to what people thought they would be.

[UltimateDeron]

Originally Posted by boxbreaker88

the 2008/09 draft was good but so many of the players havent developed yet to what people thought they would be.

Even the players in the 2005 NBA draft are still developing. To say that "the players haven't developed yet to what people thought they would be" really doesnt make any sense. Of course they haven't developed as they are only in their second season.

Now, there are some players that are playing very well and making huge contributions to their teams.

Such as....

Derrick Rose leads the Bulls in scoring and assists.

Russell Westbrook is second on his team in scoring and first in assits.

Micheal Beasley is second on his team in scoring.

Eric Gordon is second on his team in scoring.

O.J. Mayo is third on his team in scoring.

Kevin Love is averaging a double-double.

Jason Thompson is third in scoring on the Kings and first in rebounding.

Danilo Gallinari is technically in his rookie season (played 23 games last year due to injury) and averaging 15 points a game.

So as you can see the 2008 NBA Draft is filled with studs, that may not be fully developed, but are without a doubt contributing and leading their teams.

[boxbreaker88]

it is a strong draft but i would not call it one of the best
as for oj mayo i can not stand him. he screwed over uscs basketball team

lol

[Drew]

Originally Posted by UltimateDeron

Even the players in the 2005 NBA draft are still developing. To say that "the players haven't developed yet to what people thought they would be" really doesnt make any sense. Of course they haven't developed as they are only in their second season.

Now, there are some players that are playing very well and making huge contributions to their teams.

Such as....

Derrick Rose leads the Bulls in scoring and assists.

Russell Westbrook is second on his team in scoring and first in assits.

Micheal Beasley is second on his team in scoring.

Eric Gordon is second on his team in scoring.

O.J. Mayo is third on his team in scoring.

Kevin Love is averaging a double-double.

Jason Thompson is third in scoring on the Kings and first in rebounding.

Danilo Gallinari is technically in his rookie season (played 23 games last year due to injury) and averaging 15 points a game.

So as you can see the 2008 NBA Draft is filled with studs, that may not be fully developed, but are without a doubt contributing and leading their teams.

I know Brook Lopez plays for the Nets but he's averaging almost a double double. 18.6 and 9.6 on top of 2 blocks a game. I thought he should of won ROY last year.

[UltimateDeron]

Originally Posted by Drew

I know Brook Lopez plays for the Nets but he's averaging almost a double double. 18.6 and 9.6 on top of 2 blocks a game. I thought he should of won ROY last year.

Wow. I can't believe I forgot him on my list. He definately belongs on there. I don't care what team he plays on, he is a beast.

[ohiomike]

Originally Posted by Drew

I know Brook Lopez plays for the Nets but he's averaging almost a double double. 18.6 and 9.6 on top of 2 blocks a game. I thought he should of won ROY last year.

Completely agree.

[UltimateDeron]

Originally Posted by ohiomike

Completely agree.

2008-09 Statistics...

Derrick Rose: 16.8 Points Per Page, 6.3 Assists Per Game, and 3.9 Rebounds Per Game.

Brook Lopez: 13.0 Points Per Game, 8.1 Rebounds Per Game, and 1.8 Blocks Per Game.

Both of these guys statistics were great for a rookie but keep in mind that Rose was sharing the backcourt with Ben Gordon and still put up 16.8 points a game. Rose also helped lead the Bulls to the Playoffs. The same can not be said for Lopez. I think they made the right decision (Rose being the ROY) even though Lopez had a great rookie season as well.

[nuggetsman28]

How about Mario Chalmers?

[ohiomike]

Originally Posted by nuggetsman28

How about Mario Chalmers?

Chalmers finished his rookie regular season with a 12.5 efficiency rating. Not bad... Same rating as Omri Casspi has this year (currently #4 for 2009-10 rookies).

[Drew]

Originally Posted by UltimateDeron

2008-09 Statistics...

Derrick Rose: 16.8 Points Per Page, 6.3 Assists Per Game, and 3.9 Rebounds Per Game.

Brook Lopez: 13.0 Points Per Game, 8.1 Rebounds Per Game, and 1.8 Blocks Per Game.

Both of these guys statistics were great for a rookie but keep in mind that Rose was sharing the backcourt with Ben Gordon and still put up 16.8 points a game. Rose also helped lead the Bulls to the Playoffs. The same can not be said for Lopez. I think they made the right decision (Rose being the ROY) even though Lopez had a great rookie season as well.

I'll agree with that. The one thing that hurt Lopez last year that is hurting him this year is foul trouble. He takes care of that and he'll be a top 5 center in the league period. The only guy that gives him problems is Dwight Howard, and who doesn't he give problems too.