1956 Mantle: Guess the Grade!

lobo_hacker · 05-28-2013, 09:54 PM

-Just picked this up, looking for unscientific gut feelings (and no peeking at my eBay account) to see if you can guess the grade. No prizes, though if enough of you guess correctly you can take comfort in knowing i thought more highly of this card that SGC does. SOrry for back scan quality, my scanner gave me fits on that one for some reason.

lobo_hacker

TimGeezy · 05-29-2013, 01:54 AM

I'll say SGC 40

hanes1111 · 05-29-2013, 06:43 AM

Im gonna say SGC76!!!!!!!!!

TheHeel · 05-29-2013, 06:44 AM

SGC 30

I am not sure if the center mark is on card or on case....

kyle1707 · 05-29-2013, 10:38 AM

84...............

Shawner · 05-29-2013, 10:41 AM

62..................

ohiomike · 05-29-2013, 10:46 AM

SGC 70 (EX+ equivalent to a PSA 5.5)

GreatAlbert · 05-29-2013, 11:01 AM

I will say 67.

Texans81 · 05-29-2013, 12:33 PM

I'm gonna say SGC 60 (5 ex)

Gbulldogs1010 · 05-29-2013, 03:11 PM

Scg 52 is my guess

lobo_hacker · 05-29-2013, 08:09 PM

-40 it is!

I guess with decent corners, borders, centering, and no noticeable creases, i don't understand the 40.

Then again, i'm damn happy with the card, 40 or no.

Congrats to the winners, here's your prize:

TheHeel · 05-29-2013, 08:14 PM

Are there any small surface wrinkles if you tilt sideways?

ohiomike · 05-29-2013, 08:30 PM

No way that card grades a 40 (= PSA 3) without some kind of creasing. It might be light, but they must have found something. Still overall good eye appeal to the card. And if the card really is VG, I guess a 40 looks better than a 3.

lobo_hacker · 05-29-2013, 08:42 PM

-I tilted, magnified, used a jeweler's loupe, etc before i busted it out of the case. No wrinkles, spider lines, anything.

After getting it out of the case, the upper left corner has a 'bend' to it. No crease, no wrinkle, but a bend. I consider myself familiar enough with vintage to hold a conversation with folks, but for the life of me cannot figure the 40. Surface marks included, i just don't knw.

Then again, you *do* get a bit biased when you drop a few benjamins on a card. I fully acknowledge i'm infatuated with the presentation of the card.

Will get scans of the naked card to ya when i have time.

Happy hunting all, have a good night.

lobo_hacker

supremelou · 05-31-2013, 12:32 PM

Fun post! Nice card!

Mires · 06-01-2013, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobo_hacker

-I tilted, magnified, used a jeweler's loupe, etc before i busted it out of the case. No wrinkles, spider lines, anything.

After getting it out of the case, the upper left corner has a 'bend' to it. No crease, no wrinkle, but a bend. I consider myself familiar enough with vintage to hold a conversation with folks, but for the life of me cannot figure the 40. Surface marks included, i just don't knw.

Then again, you *do* get a bit biased when you drop a few benjamins on a card. I fully acknowledge i'm infatuated with the presentation of the card.

Will get scans of the naked card to ya when i have time.

Happy hunting all, have a good night.

lobo_hacker

New to vintage myself. What holder do you put a vintage card in?

lindeman79 · 06-17-2013, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobo_hacker

-Just picked this up, looking for unscientific gut feelings (and no peeking at my eBay account) to see if you can guess the grade. No prizes, though if enough of you guess correctly you can take comfort in knowing i thought more highly of this card that SGC does. SOrry for back scan quality, my scanner gave me fits on that one for some reason.

lobo_hacker

6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Broncos#1 · 06-27-2013, 12:21 PM

This is one of the reasons I don't send cards to any grading companies. Do they provide an explanation as to why your card received a particular grade or do they just send the card back encased? If they don't provide an explanation that's total BS. I've been collecting vintage cards for over 40 years and have never sent a card to any company, when I see them at shows they look lazy and unprofessional. Why should I put my card in the hands of somebody that may be having a bad day and they give you a crappy grade due to it? There's no way that's a 40 IMO but I'm not the expert, I guess the grading card companies are...

enyouartist · 08-24-2013, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobo_hacker

-I tilted, magnified, used a jeweler's loupe, etc before i busted it out of the case. No wrinkles, spider lines, anything.

After getting it out of the case, the upper left corner has a 'bend' to it. No crease, no wrinkle, but a bend. I consider myself familiar enough with vintage to hold a conversation with folks, but for the life of me cannot figure the 40. Surface marks included, i just don't knw.

Then again, you *do* get a bit biased when you drop a few benjamins on a card. I fully acknowledge i'm infatuated with the presentation of the card.

Will get scans of the naked card to ya when i have time.

Happy hunting all, have a good night.

lobo_hacker

So you cracked it out of the case to resubmit to PSA? I was thinking about doing that to one of my cards, but too scared to damage the card in the process.

05-29-2013, 01:54 AM	#2
TimGeezy Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,561 timgeezy	I'll say SGC 40 __________________ Frank Thomas/Roberto Clemente/Ewell Blackwell/Minnie Minoso/Alvin Kamara Tennessee Vols Slowly building the 1955 Bowman Baseball Set Building 2017 Certified Freshman Fabrics Alvin Kamara RPA rainbow

05-29-2013, 06:43 AM	#3
hanes1111 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh!!! Posts: 5,177 luckylarrys hanes1111	Im gonna say SGC76!!!!!!!!! __________________ Photobucket Kicked me out so Im building my Flickr Flickr-https://www.flickr.com/photos/196537527@N08/albums IG luckylarrys2014

05-29-2013, 06:44 AM	#4
TheHeel Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15,668	SGC 30 I am not sure if the center mark is on card or on case.... __________________ 48,230, 52,879, 40,400, 4,780 Pending Deals:

05-29-2013, 10:41 AM	#6
Shawner Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 859	62.................. __________________ Looking for low numbered Von Millers

05-29-2013, 10:46 AM	#7
ohiomike Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 4,121 buckeyesportcards ohiomike	SGC 70 (EX+ equivalent to a PSA 5.5) __________________ Find me at SPORTLOTS.COM - OHIOMIKE Domestic orders over 50 cards ship ABSOLUTELY FREE with me, copy and paste this URL: http://www.sportlots.com/inven/invenbin/dealerpage.tpl?dealer=ohiomike

05-28-2013, 09:54 PM	#1
lobo_hacker Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,581	1956 Mantle: Guess the Grade! -Just picked this up, looking for unscientific gut feelings (and no peeking at my eBay account) to see if you can guess the grade. No prizes, though if enough of you guess correctly you can take comfort in knowing i thought more highly of this card that SGC does. SOrry for back scan quality, my scanner gave me fits on that one for some reason. lobo_hacker Attached Thumbnails

05-29-2013, 10:38 AM	#5
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,599	84...............

05-29-2013, 11:01 AM	#8
GreatAlbert Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 5,452 greatalbert2013	I will say 67.

05-29-2013, 12:33 PM	#9
Texans81 Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,934 collectors.syndicate	I'm gonna say SGC 60 (5 ex) __________________ Collecting Astros & Texans cards, random CGC comics, Magic the Gathering sealed product & reserved list cards, Vintage Baseball...little bit of everything

05-29-2013, 03:11 PM	#10
Gbulldogs1010 Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: New York Posts: 4,718 andirite gbulldogs1010	Scg 52 is my guess __________________ UGA DaWGS, NY GiANTS, CELTICS! I collect all the above w/ a few side pc's

05-29-2013, 08:09 PM	#11
lobo_hacker Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,581	-40 it is! I guess with decent corners, borders, centering, and no noticeable creases, i don't understand the 40. Then again, i'm damn happy with the card, 40 or no. Congrats to the winners, here's your prize:

05-29-2013, 08:14 PM	#12
TheHeel Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15,668	Are there any small surface wrinkles if you tilt sideways? __________________ 48,230, 52,879, 40,400, 4,780 Pending Deals:

05-29-2013, 08:30 PM	#13
ohiomike Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 4,121 buckeyesportcards ohiomike	No way that card grades a 40 (= PSA 3) without some kind of creasing. It might be light, but they must have found something. Still overall good eye appeal to the card. And if the card really is VG, I guess a 40 looks better than a 3. __________________ Find me at SPORTLOTS.COM - OHIOMIKE Domestic orders over 50 cards ship ABSOLUTELY FREE with me, copy and paste this URL: http://www.sportlots.com/inven/invenbin/dealerpage.tpl?dealer=ohiomike

05-29-2013, 08:42 PM	#14
lobo_hacker Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,581	-I tilted, magnified, used a jeweler's loupe, etc before i busted it out of the case. No wrinkles, spider lines, anything. After getting it out of the case, the upper left corner has a 'bend' to it. No crease, no wrinkle, but a bend. I consider myself familiar enough with vintage to hold a conversation with folks, but for the life of me cannot figure the 40. Surface marks included, i just don't knw. Then again, you do get a bit biased when you drop a few benjamins on a card. I fully acknowledge i'm infatuated with the presentation of the card. Will get scans of the naked card to ya when i have time. Happy hunting all, have a good night. lobo_hacker Last edited by lobo_hacker; 05-29-2013 at 08:56 PM.

05-31-2013, 12:32 PM	#15
supremelou Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: queens ny Posts: 208 supremecardholder supremelu	Fun post! Nice card!

06-27-2013, 12:21 PM	#18
Broncos#1 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Douglassville, PA Posts: 180	This is one of the reasons I don't send cards to any grading companies. Do they provide an explanation as to why your card received a particular grade or do they just send the card back encased? If they don't provide an explanation that's total BS. I've been collecting vintage cards for over 40 years and have never sent a card to any company, when I see them at shows they look lazy and unprofessional. Why should I put my card in the hands of somebody that may be having a bad day and they give you a crappy grade due to it? There's no way that's a 40 IMO but I'm not the expert, I guess the grading card companies are...