09 National Treasures look SWEET!!!!

IndySportsCards · 12-08-2009, 11:24 PM

Wow, check out these Nat. Treasures cards.

ND3 · 12-08-2009, 11:29 PM

Patches look sweet. Autos not so much....look at the bubbling on each of them. Looks like they chose the wrong cardstock or pens this year.

tolrobb · 12-09-2009, 12:07 AM

the auto's look terrible and the design is horrendous. not that i could afford em anyways.

SkinsLakerGiant · 12-09-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ND3

Patches look sweet. Autos not so much....look at the bubbling on each of them. Looks like they chose the wrong cardstock or pens this year.

I agree. Really nice cards though.

Brad · 12-09-2009, 12:11 AM

I think there is going to be a huge uproar about the awful autos when this stuff actually hits shelves. Same with Contenders. Everyone will want replacements for the bubbling ones, while the "good" autos will sell for a premium most likely.

The thing is, people have been complaining about the autos for months since Panini posted the first pics on their Facebook page, yet they've done nothing to fix the issue as they've done many more signings since and have used the same card stock / markers.

FINS4LIFE · 12-09-2009, 12:20 AM

Nice cards. But the signatures. Oh boy. Huston. I think we have a problem.

wju2004 · 12-09-2009, 12:31 AM

Yep. Looks like National Treasures will fall through the floor this year unless Panini actually does something about this.

maggliofan01 · 12-09-2009, 12:45 AM

Instead of Treasures looks like failures, but like you I CAN"T afford them either!

barberromo2008 · 12-09-2009, 12:48 AM

Patches are so sick.

MasterPattie · 12-09-2009, 05:58 AM

People complain about sticker autos so much...

...but then they see ON CARD autos and are not happy...

...there is no pleasing you people!!!

MrSnyder · 12-09-2009, 06:22 AM

And we all know that these are the RARE patches that pop out. Should we even bother counting how many 1 colors will show up?

moestavern10 · 12-09-2009, 06:51 AM

lol... maybe they will go with on card auto in front and sticker auto in the back...

Panini on-card auto's ask and you shall recieve

.. i bet you'll get sticker replacements for it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterPattie

People complain about sticker autos so much...

...but then they see ON CARD autos and are not happy...

...there is no pleasing you people!!!

rudyjustinfarrell · 12-09-2009, 07:19 AM

I don't mind the card design but the streaked and bubbling autographs are terrible. Would it have been that card to have a design that had the autograph area less glossy? or even slightly texturized to be able to hold an autograph that much better?

doubledribble · 12-09-2009, 12:20 PM

nice patches...but not staying true to National Treasures design. Butt Ass Awful.

vatechhokiefan · 12-09-2009, 12:40 PM

I think the design is an improvement over years past but the auto issue should not exist in such a premium product.

hojer05 · 12-09-2009, 12:53 PM

Give me a sticker auto over a bubbly auto any day...huge mistake this year with these autos...

Goodfella · 12-09-2009, 03:15 PM

Terrible. Panini is really not doing well in regards to listening to their fans. I'm a fan of theirs on facebook, and I tell them every chance I get along with many others that there's a problem that needs to be addressed. The design is one of the most ugly I've seen in years. I might just stick to 09 SPA/Ultimate/Exquisite for my RCs with the way things are shaping up. Say what you will about Upper Deck's customer service, at least their designs are usually pretty damn good.

IndySportsCards · 12-09-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FINS4LIFE

Nice cards. But the signatures. Oh boy. Huston. I think we have a problem.

Now that you guys metion it, I agree, I didn't really notice that at first. I was in awe of the patches and overlooked the crummy sigs

Andrew Jones · 12-09-2009, 04:25 PM

I will not be going within a mile of that stuff because of the crappy auto quality. If I buy any high end 2009 products, it looks like UD is getting my business this year.

kyle1707 · 12-09-2009, 04:42 PM

It is always a great product.

Price point is a smidge high though.

Tons better quality and product than exquisite though.

Grid · 12-09-2009, 04:50 PM

I do like the fact that they have a "white-out" area for the signatures though. They have been using the silver stickers for so many years, once they switched to the clear ones the autos just get lost on their dark backgrounds.

Grid · 12-09-2009, 04:51 PM

They always build their cards backwards to save money. Make an insert with ne regard for an autograph or jersey window. Than add the autograph or jersey window where they fit. You can tell with these that they at least tried to make a real autographed/jersey card. Unlike Gridiron Gear etc.

davebo · 12-09-2009, 04:52 PM

I think it is funny that they are marketing the product with the crap rookies. Why no pics of the better players?

Grid · 12-09-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by davebo

I think it is funny that they are marketing the product with the crap rookies. Why no pics of the better players?

Cause they will all be Redemptions!

antthebody · 12-09-2009, 06:49 PM

yeah paying 400 a box and get smudged autos i think not

12-08-2009, 11:24 PM	#1
IndySportsCards Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: EO 13848 Posts: 42,019 braco0 IndySportsCards	09 National Treasures look SWEET!!!! Wow, check out these Nat. Treasures cards. __________________ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.

12-08-2009, 11:29 PM	#2
ND3 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: At the Brazilian BBQ Posts: 15,490 floridaguy72 nd3	Patches look sweet. Autos not so much....look at the bubbling on each of them. Looks like they chose the wrong cardstock or pens this year. __________________ *Maybe if I stick your head through that window over there you'll get unconfused. Give me the feckkin money. -- Nicky Santoro* myslabs.to/flordiaguy72

12-09-2009, 12:07 AM	#3
tolrobb Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 12,956 Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose!	the auto's look terrible and the design is horrendous. not that i could afford em anyways. __________________ Bucket: https://www.flickr.com/photos/69440988@N05/albums

12-09-2009, 12:31 AM	#7
wju2004 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Round on the ends and 'hi' in the middle. Posts: 5,221 percussionist	Yep. Looks like National Treasures will fall through the floor this year unless Panini actually does something about this. __________________ Website out of date...Dropbox link for now: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/adm32tufogq5q6z8c82cq/AC01HnTnTVA0zZ0v-goMFko?rlkey=ys7yrmjuh2jhsi8hwxwyd860k&st=xz28pgi4&dl=0 Current Status: 381/387

12-09-2009, 12:45 AM	#8
maggliofan01 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ky Posts: 4,653 lovebrittneys	Instead of Treasures looks like failures, but like you I CAN"T afford them either! __________________ I am looking for Tayshaun Prince and other UK players LOW number, PATCH, or auto cards. My Bucket is http://s569.photobucket.com/home/lovebrittneys

12-09-2009, 12:11 AM	#5
Brad Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MKE Posts: 3,947	I think there is going to be a huge uproar about the awful autos when this stuff actually hits shelves. Same with Contenders. Everyone will want replacements for the bubbling ones, while the "good" autos will sell for a premium most likely. The thing is, people have been complaining about the autos for months since Panini posted the first pics on their Facebook page, yet they've done nothing to fix the issue as they've done many more signings since and have used the same card stock / markers.

12-09-2009, 12:20 AM	#6
FINS4LIFE Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,173	Nice cards. But the signatures. Oh boy. Huston. I think we have a problem.

12-09-2009, 12:48 AM	#9
barberromo2008 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,022 sportscloset12	Patches are so sick. __________________ Collecting Dallas Cowboys,NFC East Players,Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

12-09-2009, 05:58 AM	#10
MasterPattie Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,748	People complain about sticker autos so much... ...but then they see ON CARD autos and are not happy... ...there is no pleasing you people!!!

12-09-2009, 06:22 AM	#11
MrSnyder Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 7,044 mrsnyder	And we all know that these are the RARE patches that pop out. Should we even bother counting how many 1 colors will show up? __________________ Collecting Ozzie Smith and Football HOF autograph articles... GO Bears (Hershey)! "You want to drag me down, as if I even care." - Breaking Benjamin

12-09-2009, 07:19 AM	#13
rudyjustinfarrell Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 12,713 rudyjustinfarrell	I don't mind the card design but the streaked and bubbling autographs are terrible. Would it have been that card to have a design that had the autograph area less glossy? or even slightly texturized to be able to hold an autograph that much better?

12-09-2009, 12:20 PM	#14
doubledribble Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,895	nice patches...but not staying true to National Treasures design. Butt Ass Awful.

12-09-2009, 12:40 PM	#15
vatechhokiefan Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Christiansburg, VA Posts: 2,093 admiral50	I think the design is an improvement over years past but the auto issue should not exist in such a premium product. __________________ Collecting New York Yankees, Pittsburgh Steelers, and San Antonio Spurs.

12-09-2009, 12:53 PM	#16
hojer05 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Millville, NJ Posts: 841 vikefan154	Give me a sticker auto over a bubbly auto any day...huge mistake this year with these autos... __________________ *Still collecting Vikings/Phillies /76ers/Flyers(do not have to be in team uniform, just have to have been on the roster)* Trying to put together 2005 SP Authentic SOTT Dual Autograph set (Football) PM me with any that you may have

12-09-2009, 03:15 PM	#17
Goodfella Banned - PBM Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,208 Mouseofthefield	Terrible. Panini is really not doing well in regards to listening to their fans. I'm a fan of theirs on facebook, and I tell them every chance I get along with many others that there's a problem that needs to be addressed. The design is one of the most ugly I've seen in years. I might just stick to 09 SPA/Ultimate/Exquisite for my RCs with the way things are shaping up. Say what you will about Upper Deck's customer service, at least their designs are usually pretty damn good.

12-09-2009, 04:25 PM	#19
Andrew Jones Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 10,862 um1998nc	I will not be going within a mile of that stuff because of the crappy auto quality. If I buy any high end 2009 products, it looks like UD is getting my business this year.

12-09-2009, 04:42 PM	#20
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,823	It is always a great product. Price point is a smidge high though. Tons better quality and product than exquisite though.

12-09-2009, 04:50 PM	#21
Grid Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 13,478 Gridiron-Gladiators	I do like the fact that they have a "white-out" area for the signatures though. They have been using the silver stickers for so many years, once they switched to the clear ones the autos just get lost on their dark backgrounds.

12-09-2009, 04:51 PM	#22
Grid Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 13,478 Gridiron-Gladiators	They always build their cards backwards to save money. Make an insert with ne regard for an autograph or jersey window. Than add the autograph or jersey window where they fit. You can tell with these that they at least tried to make a real autographed/jersey card. Unlike Gridiron Gear etc.

12-09-2009, 04:52 PM	#23
davebo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,930	I think it is funny that they are marketing the product with the crap rookies. Why no pics of the better players?

12-09-2009, 06:49 PM	#25
antthebody Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago,IL Posts: 851 thebody711	yeah paying 400 a box and get smudged autos i think not