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Old 12-29-2025, 03:36 AM   #1
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Default Sorry: Discussing the Jose Altuve Buzzer Conspiracy Theory

Hey everybody. Realize this is a topic that has definitely been beat beyond death. But I do have to wonder. Again, sorry in advanced for bringing this topic back up. If you aren't someone who likes to talk about it, feel free to stop reading and move on.

When Altuve was saying he was shy, we know this is not true because later on his shirt was removed during a walkoff.

Correa claimed it was due to a large, unfinished tattoo, but still to this day Altuve has no large chest tattoo.

So to really sum it all up, I know the buzzer is just a conspiracy. But can we all agree that somdthing more than just trash banging was going on? This could also explain why of all players Altuve recieved the least overall trashcan bangs according to the stats. Thoughts?
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Old 12-29-2025, 04:43 AM   #2
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lets talk about the 2023 Braves, convinced they were cheating
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Sorry to stray from the OP, if you’re someone who doesn’t like tangents please feel free to stop reading and move on, but…

Can we talk about the suspicious ending to the 1926 World Series?
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I'm still not over Harriet Bird shooting Roy Hobbs.
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He does have a tattoo on his chest though.
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I'm still not over Harriet Bird shooting Roy Hobbs.
Hobbs had to have been on greenies. That’s the only way he could have hit that light pole.
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Old 12-29-2025, 01:53 PM   #8
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Of course he had a buzzer
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lets talk about the 2023 Braves, convinced they were cheating
How so?
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Old 12-29-2025, 02:59 PM   #10
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How so?
Sean Murply 2023 OPS: 844 24/25 630/700
matt olson 2023 OPS: 1000 24/25 800/850
ozzie albies 2023 OPS: 850 24/25 710/670
arcia 2023 OPS: 740 24/25 630/530
riley 2023 OPS: 860 24/25 780/730
roasrio 2023 OPS: 750 24/25 550
ozuna 2023 OPS: 905 /25 750
Harris 810/720/680

Then of course there is acuna 2022 OPS 760....2024 OPS 720.... 2023 OPS 1000+

Acuna year by year K% i think hes like 21% every year of his career and then like 12 in 2023. That just doesn't happen. They were def cheating
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Old 12-29-2025, 03:08 PM   #11
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The dude posted career highs for HRs in the seasons after the trashcans, buzzers, or whatever was going on. If he was consistently cheating, it wasn't helping his power stroke.
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You guys can keep bringing up the buzzer stuff all you want, but he’s still getting into the Hall of Fame. The BWAA doesn’t care about that kind of cheating the same way they care about PEDs.
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Old 12-29-2025, 03:25 PM   #13
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he cheated and everybody knows it
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Sean Murply 2023 OPS: 844 24/25 630/700
matt olson 2023 OPS: 1000 24/25 800/850
ozzie albies 2023 OPS: 850 24/25 710/670
arcia 2023 OPS: 740 24/25 630/530
riley 2023 OPS: 860 24/25 780/730
roasrio 2023 OPS: 750 24/25 550
ozuna 2023 OPS: 905 /25 750
Harris 810/720/680

Then of course there is acuna 2022 OPS 760....2024 OPS 720.... 2023 OPS 1000+

Acuna year by year K% i think hes like 21% every year of his career and then like 12 in 2023. That just doesn't happen. They were def cheating
-Riley actually hit more HRs in 2022 and had his career best OBPS in 2021…

-Acuna Jr. was returning from a devastating injury in 2022 and only played in 49 games in 2024 before he got hurt again…

-Ozuna was actually even better in 2024…

-Albies’ 2023 wasn’t some crazy outlier either. He’d hit 30 HRs before and had his best OBPS in 2019.

-Rosario’s 2023 OBPS would rank as the fifth highest mark of his career.

-Harris II was way better in 2022.
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Old 12-29-2025, 04:26 PM   #15
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What a pointless thread.. The Astros must still be living in the OP's head.. rent free..

Of all the scandals in baseball, this is one you want to talk about? Damn near every team has cheated lol. Some way worse than a trashcan or buzzer (that didn't happen). OP should do a little research as to why he didn't want his shirt torn off, the facts are there, just look it up.

Only a pansy would make a thread like this, 8 years later. What's even more hilarious is the Astros went to 7 straight ALCS and 3 more World Series AFTER this scnadal. LOL.

And yes, Altuve is a first ballot HOF'er and there is nothing that is going to stop that.
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You guys can keep bringing up the buzzer stuff all you want, but he’s still getting into the Hall of Fame. The BWAA doesn’t care about that kind of cheating the same way they care about PEDs.
read that Beltran is on the cusp, as it were. Just one opinion from someone; I don’t vote.
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read that Beltran is on the cusp, as it were. Just one opinion from someone; I don’t vote.
I think Beltran gets in sooner rather than later. Doesn’t really matter to me. I don’t really have a dog in the race. Same with Altuve. I don’t care one way or the other, but I still think he gets elected within his first 3 ballots.
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Old 12-29-2025, 05:20 PM   #19
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It’s way worse than you could ever imagine OP. He’s a time traveler, he knew what pitches were coming because he had literally already seen them. The buzzer was just a story he released because he was nervous the truth would come out.
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-Riley actually hit more HRs in 2022 and had his career best OBPS in 2021…

-Acuna Jr. was returning from a devastating injury in 2022 and only played in 49 games in 2024 before he got hurt again…

-Ozuna was actually even better in 2024…

-Albies’ 2023 wasn’t some crazy outlier either. He’d hit 30 HRs before and had his best OBPS in 2019.

-Rosario’s 2023 OBPS would rank as the fifth highest mark of his career.

-Harris II was way better in 2022.
Braves TEAM OPS last 5 years

750
760
845 (2023)
724
720

Team HR last 5 years:
240/240/307 (2023) /213/190

Strikeouts Last 5 years

245
253
275 (2023)
243
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Team BA

1450
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1290 (2023)
1460
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Ohtani framed his friend Ippei to take the blame, as Ohtani was buried in massive gambling debts and allegedly connected to the Yakuza. His baseball legacy would have been ruined if it ever got out into the open

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Braves TEAM OPS last 5 years

750
760
845 (2023)
724
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Team HR last 5 years:
240/240/307 (2023) /213/190

Strikeouts Last 5 years

245
253
275 (2023)
243
245

Team BA

1450
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1290 (2023)
1460
1370
A stacked lineup full of All-Stars/MVP caliber players all stayed relatively healthy and played up to their potential. It’s really not that hard to comprehend unless you walk through life with a tinfoil hat on. Forget there being zero evidence I’ve yet to even hear the tiniest allegation from anyone but you.
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A stacked lineup full of All-Stars/MVP caliber players all stayed relatively healthy and played up to their potential. It’s really not that hard to comprehend unless you walk through life with a tinfoil hat on. Forget there being zero evidence I’ve yet to even hear the tiniest allegation from anyone but you.
here's a fun video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAn2ACdU_Rw
I don't believe it but there are lots of people out there that think something went on.


I don't think you appreicare how aburd Acuna 2023 season was with regards to K%. Like its the type of season that just doesn't happen unless you know what pitches are coming.

in 2023 he had a 11.5% K%. For fun lets look at comparable guys this year and see how many other seasons they have had with a K% over 23%

I looked at top 10-15 guys and they have posted a combined 0 seasons with K% over 23% (in fact they may have had 0 over 20% also) over roughly 100 seasons sample or maybee 60,000 at bats.

Now Acuna has played 7 other seasons and never had another season under 23% ever. This is the type of variance that just doesn't happen ever.

You can also compare guys with simialr K numbers to Acuna norm 24-27% and see how often they have even flirted with sub 12% K for a season. It just never happenes ever (pretty much everyone never even went under 20) and I think Matt Olson has 1 season liek 17% and the rest over 20.
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here's a fun video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAn2ACdU_Rw
I don't believe it but there are lots of people out there that think something went on.


I don't think you appreicare how aburd Acuna 2023 season was with regards to K%. Like its the type of season that just doesn't happen unless you know what pitches are coming.

in 2023 he had a 11.5% K%. For fun lets look at comparable guys this year and see how many other seasons they have had with a K% over 23%

I looked at top 10-15 guys and they have posted a combined 0 seasons with K% over 23% (in fact they may have had 0 over 20% also) over roughly 100 seasons sample or maybee 60,000 at bats.

Now Acuna has played 7 other seasons and never had another season under 23% ever. This is the type of variance that just doesn't happen ever.

You can also compare guys with simialr K numbers to Acuna norm 24-27% and see how often they have even flirted with sub 12% K for a season. It just never happenes ever (pretty much everyone never even went under 20) and I think Matt Olson has 1 season liek 17% and the rest over 20.
Didn’t a kindergartner write this or is English not your native language?
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