2024-25 Topps Chrome UEFA Club Competitions - Featuring On-Card Autos 😱

[Chrominator]

Looked but didn't see a thread for this...


PreOrders avail for 399/jumbo^

[Chrominator]

EX-AF1 Sir Alex Ferguson Manchester United
EX-HC2 Hernán Crespo SS Lazio
EX-JM1 Jamal Musiala FC Bayern München
EX-LM1 Lionel Messi FC Barcelona
EX-LY4 Lamine Yamal FC Barcelona Rookie
EX-SG1 Steven Gerrard Liverpool FC
EX-ZZ7 Zinédine Zidane Real Madrid C.F.

[Chrominator]

and the odds start at 1:4,359 for the EX parallels

[crdbored]

Hmm, it's less money than last year's release, but still too expensive.

Also, the MoE "Messi" auto looks like his other recent autos.
Topps has one front and center on their launch page for the product.
https://www.topps.com/pages/topps-ch...b-competitions

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by crdbored

the MoE "Messi" auto looks like his other recent autos.

Not sure what you mean by this,

but that Messi is a 1/1;

so, if you implying it's a forgery — that's pretty bold.

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

Not sure what you mean by this,

but that Messi is a 1/1;

so, if you implying it's a forgery — that's pretty bold.

Idk if it's a forgery, but PSA has not been authenticating some of his 2024 MLS on-card autos.
Those signatures look very similar to the one on MoE cards.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

Not sure what you mean by this,

but that Messi is a 1/1;

so, if you implying it's a forgery — that's pretty bold.

His autos in 2018 Panini Eminence aren't him, that was a premium set!

[mikee1186]

There was no thread because there’s so little excitement for this. All of the pre orders are still sitting, even at a better hobby price of $170.

[yiguiri2002]

I'll rather save money and just wait for the UCL Show quad auto to show up

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by mikee1186

There was no thread because there’s so little excitement for this. All of the pre orders are still sitting, even at a better hobby price of $170.

Lol...

[footfutbol]

So it's a 2nd year "rookie" of Endrick and a bunch of nothing?

Are their any other rookies in here worth calling out?

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by footfutbol

So it's a 2nd year "rookie" of Endrick and a bunch of nothing?

Are their any other rookies in here worth calling out?

Nwaneri... that's about it.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

Not sure what you mean by this,

but that Messi is a 1/1;

so, if you implying it's a forgery — that's pretty bold.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1502876

[YayNJ]

soccer is as dead as a dodo isn't it?

there was more hype and excitement back in the mid 2010's when it was still a 'niche' market. Sure there's still people that are financially dependant on it pushing it and plugging it, and there's still enough morons buying up total garbage that don't know any better... but damn.. I haven't even looked at a soccer product this year.

I've had more fun opening Looney Tunes, and that's a complete rip off.

Everything has been done.. and done again, and done again... and it gets worse each time. They have completely removed any actual desire to collect, scarcity no longer exists. My advice to anyone getting into soccer cards (modern) would be to just buy a Pele and a Maradona auto and then walk away and never, ever come back.

This isn't aimed at anyone on here (actually , if you ever pumped Daryl Dike or played any part, no matter how minor in seeing Sidney Raebiger cards reach $10,000, I probably am talking about you to be fair), but the slow death started when completely and utterly clueless non-soccer fans flooded in. 'It's good for the hobby' peddlers and pumpers would cry. No. It wasn't.

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

soccer is as dead as a dodo isn't it?

there was more hype and excitement back in the mid 2010's when it was still a 'niche' market. Sure there's still people that are financially dependant on it pushing it and plugging it, and there's still enough morons buying up total garbage that don't know any better... but damn.. I haven't even looked at a soccer product this year.

I've had more fun opening Looney Tunes, and that's a complete rip off.

Everything has been done.. and done again, and done again... and it gets worse each time. They have completely removed any actual desire to collect, scarcity no longer exists. My advice to anyone getting into soccer cards (modern) would be to just buy a Pele and a Maradona auto and then walk away and never, ever come back.

This isn't aimed at anyone on here (actually , if you ever pumped Daryl Dike or played any part, no matter how minor in seeing Sidney Raebiger cards reach $10,000, I probably am talking about you to be fair), but the slow death started when completely and utterly clueless non-soccer fans flooded in. 'It's good for the hobby' peddlers and pumpers would cry. No. It wasn't.

Overproduction and having 25 sets of the same players every year is killing the soccer market.

Overproduction is happening across the major sports but more collectors participate in those sports where stuff still sells.
The smaller market in soccer isn't big enough to soak up the product plus no hype rookie like Yamal is really showing how much stuff is printed.
Hoping prices keep dropping for all products.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by crdbored

Overproduction and having 25 sets of the same players every year is killing the soccer market.

It's an issue across all sports, but soccer has a unique set of problems that makes the situation worse, namely the fact that top players are spread across a multitude of leagues, which reduces demand for single-league products.

Add in the fact that Panini & Topps have priced wax so high that only breakers can afford it, and you've pretty much killed off interest among even die-hard soccer fans like me.

I'll buy a few Newcastle singles/autos here and there, and Pulisic AC Milan cards, but I'm certain not buying any wax. And with tariffs now shutting down the Asia to US pipeline, there are going to be a lot fewer singles available.

I'd be all over a product like EPL Prizm if it was $70-80 a box....but it's three times that price.

[tupacgr13]

Ok probably you guys have been in the hobby since forever but for me that I am located in Greece I think it is better than ever. I can buy great single cards cheaper than ever. For example I will mention Topps Stadium which a set that is somewhere in the middle I guess. I can buy a Jude Bellingham PSA 10 /125(a parallel that I really like) for 30$. Not even to mention what happen to all other names. You can buy a gold Hernan Crespo for a few dollars. I am very happy with what's happening because I really enjoy these cards. I think someone can enjoy the situation a lot if he just buys the cards he like.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by tupacgr13

Ok probably you guys have been in the hobby since forever but for me that I am located in Greece I think it is better than ever. I can buy great single cards cheaper than ever. For example I will mention Topps Stadium which a set that is somewhere in the middle I guess. I can buy a Jude Bellingham PSA 10 /125(a parallel that I really like) for 30$. Not even to mention what happen to all other names. You can buy a gold Hernan Crespo for a few dollars. I am very happy with what's happening because I really enjoy these cards. I think someone can enjoy the situation a lot if he just buys the cards he like.

This is a great post illustrating that COLLECTING is actually better than it's ever been. Low singles prices are a great thing for people who collect without being concerned whether they'll make a profit off their purchase. I used to love ripping wax to chase cards I wanted and sell off ones I didn't to subsidize, but that part of my hobby involvement has been long gone for years now. Ripping wax makes zero sense anymore. Just leave it for the gamblers and scoop up whatever you want for cheap.

[dubsea]

The thing is, "ripping wax" is part of the hobby experience that is now ruined. It's part of what brought me back into the hobby so I could share that experience with my son. Breaking largely ruined that.

This set is atrocious. Watching breakers freak out about pulling some B level star out of 99 which you know could be had for a couple bucks online is embarrassing. It's gunna be even worse with this set now that there is no Yamal to carry it other than a fake "rookie" card.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by dubsea

The thing is, "ripping wax" is part of the hobby experience that is now ruined. It's part of what brought me back into the hobby so I could share that experience with my son. Breaking largely ruined that.

Exactly.

Most of us grew up "ripping wax"....that's what the majority of the hobby was pre-EBay.

You bought and opened wax....you traded with your friends....you tried to buy/sell at card shows or your LCS.

I think I probably had been collecting cards for close to a decade before I ever bought my first single at a card show (this was in the 80's).

[YayNJ]

This also isn’t “the best time ever to be a collector” either. Prices are still high. The last time prices were relatively “normal” were around the release of Donruss 2018. By the end of that season the first glimmers of rising prices were apparent.

You could pick up Foden, Vini Jr, rated rookies (numbered) for a few bucks. Numbered under 50 Mbappe 2018 Treble were sub <30 dollars... infact, Treble back then was viewed as if it had the black plague, nobody wanted it and loads of it ended getting dumped in Asia. It got pumped to the heavens during covid.

[SouthEastCards]

I would add Soccer rookies are very much like Basketball where they take a number of seasons to realise their potential or develop. There’s definitely one or two rookies in this set that will end up great but it takes a while unless its a generational athlete who comes ever 5-10 years like Lamine Yamal.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by SouthEastCards

I would add Soccer rookies are very much like Basketball where they take a number of seasons to realize their potential or develop.

I think the reality is that soccer collectors are not anywhere near as obsessed with rookies as collectors in other sports are. It's the newbie "investors" who are more obsessed with rookies, not long-time collectors.

I've been collecting soccer cards since the 90's, and I can't recall hearing any discussion of rookie cards until the pandemic hit and a lot of investor-types started paying attention to soccer cards.

I think there are a variety of reasons for this...but one of them is the fact that until roughly 2017-18, stickers generally were more popular than cards....and a player's first sticker was often released in a different year than their first card. Most famous players have rookie stickers released several years before their first card, but at the same time many collectors have zero interest in stickers.

Likewise, because people support clubs more than players, the attachment to any given player is a fairly weak one, only existing while they are playing for the club you support. And with players hopping clubs like fleas hop dogs, you have a lot of pretty good players for whom there is minimal demand amongst collectors.

And the structure of soccer also does not do the card collecting market any favors, with players having both stickers and cards with their national teams, in league-specific products, and possibly in UEFA-wide products.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by SouthEastCards

I would add Soccer rookies are very much like Basketball where they take a number of seasons to realise their potential or develop. There’s definitely one or two rookies in this set that will end up great but it takes a while unless its a generational athlete who comes ever 5-10 years like Lamine Yamal.

We've already had at least ten 'generational' soccer players since Covid. Most just end up very good, some burn out, a few can't hack it or get an injury that means they will never be the same player..

It's still VERY eary days to be banking all your hopes on Yamal.

--
Youssoufa Moukoko
Malcom
Ansu Fati
Kai Havertz
Breel Embolo
Martin Odegaard
Gavi
Pedri
De Ligt
Haaland
Saka
Justin Kluivert

.. they have all had the 'generational' tag

[Gin&Juice]

Pedri is playing as well as anyone in the world right now. I would argue that he is more important to Barca than Yamal or Raphina.