🏈🏈🏈 2024 NFL Week 10 Discussion Thread 🏈🏈🏈

Boo · 11-05-2024, 09:04 AM

Thursday, November 7, 2024
Cincinnati @ Baltimore 8:15 PM
Line: BAL -6
O/U: 52.5

Sunday, November 10, 2024
New York Giants @ Carolina 9:30 AM
Line: NYG -5
O/U: 41.5

New England @ Chicago 1:00 PM
Line: CHI -6.5
O/U: 39.5

Buffalo @ Indianapolis 1:00 PM
Line: BUF -4
O/U: 47.5

Denver @ Kansas City 1:00 PM
Line: KC -9.5
O/U: 41.5

Atlanta @ New Orleans 1:00 PM
Line: ATL -3.5
O/U: 47.5

San Francisco @ Tampa Bay 1:00 PM
Line: SF -6.5
O/U: 48.5

Pittsburgh @ Washington 1:00 PM
Line: WSH -2.5
O/U: 45.5

Minnesota @ Jacksonville 1:00 PM
Line: MIN -4
O/U: 47.5

Tennessee @ Los Angeles Chargers 4:05 PM
Line: LAC -7.5
O/U: 37.5

Philadelphia @ Dallas 4:25 PM
Line: PHI -7.5
O/U: 41.5

New York Jets @ Arizona 4:25 PM
Line: ARI -1
O/U: 45.5

Detroit @ Houston 8:20 PM
Line: DET -3
O/U: 49.5

Monday, November 11, 2024
Miami @ Los Angeles Rams 8:15 PM
Line: LAR -2.5
O/U: 50.5

Bye
Cleveland, Green Bay, Las Vegas, Seattle

Bosoxfan5990 · 11-05-2024, 09:10 AM

Begrudgingly voted for Lamar.

Germany gets the poop game of the week. Good riddance.

Boo · 11-05-2024, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Begrudgingly voted for Lamar.

Germany gets the poop game of the week. Good riddance.

NE/Chicago isn't far behind.

jplarson · 11-05-2024, 09:16 AM

Excellent poll, 10/10.

Bosoxfan5990 · 11-05-2024, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo

NE/Chicago isn't far behind.

Ehh at least there's 2 exciting rookie QBs to watch.

Though I normally agree the Pats are involved in the poop game.

the mesiah · 11-05-2024, 09:21 AM

Cincinnati <Baltimore
New York Giants > Carolina
New England<Chicago
Buffalo >Indianapolis
Denver <Kansas City
Atlanta >New Orleans
San Francisco >Tampa Bay
Pittsburgh <Washington
Minnesota >Jacksonville
Tennessee <Los Angeles Chargers
Philadelphia> Dallas
New York Jets< Arizona
Detroit>Houston
Miami<Los Angeles Rams

JeremyNick · 11-05-2024, 09:40 AM

Henry.

I don’t care what you say, he needs to get recognized at least once. He’s a unicorn.

Boo · 11-05-2024, 09:45 AM

I see the JGoffs are out in full force already.

Derekbauer · 11-05-2024, 09:50 AM

Lamar and Henry are just so good right now it’s hard to vote for either over the other. What Goff is doing is also amazing but I’m back on Allen based on talent around him right now.

foleylion08 · 11-05-2024, 09:52 AM

Four votes for Goff? Y'all are joking, right?

TheHeel · 11-05-2024, 09:52 AM

Gotta go with Lamar.

jplarson · 11-05-2024, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo

NE/Chicago isn't far behind.

Surprising given your alleged boosting of Caleb Williams. One would think a fan would always be happy to watch a game of his.

Scottish Punk · 11-05-2024, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by foleylion08

Four votes for Goff? Y'all are joking, right?

Keep laughing. Goff is going to hoist that trophy at the end of the year. He will be the QB of the best offense in the league on the team with the best record (at least NFC) and the Lions are a media darling right now. It is his to lose. Allen would be the closest. Lamar is doing great, but i think the voters are looking for a reason not to give it to him again. At least until playoff success. Goff and splitting votes with Henry is enough excuse.

foleylion08 · 11-05-2024, 10:41 AM

Goff isn't the best player on the offense. Just because he's the quarterback of the team does not mean he is the most valuable. Montgomery, Gibbs and St. Brown are all more integral to the offense's success. Goff is the Most Valuable Game Manager. I'll go as far as to say he doesn't finish top 3 in votes.

kipgen · 11-05-2024, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foleylion08

Goff isn't the best player on the offense. Just because he's the quarterback of the team does not mean he is the most valuable. Montgomery, Gibbs and St. Brown are all more integral to the offense's success. Goff is the Most Valuable Game Manager. I'll go as far as to say he doesn't finish top 3 in votes.

True. There have been quite a few games where he doesn't pass for that many TDs or yards because the team just doesn't need him to in order to win, which isn't great for his case. Lamar on the other hand is still heading a run-first team and putting up career highs in QBR, passer rating, and passing TDs.

Boo · 11-05-2024, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foleylion08

Goff isn't the best player on the offense. Just because he's the quarterback of the team does not mean he is the most valuable. Montgomery, Gibbs and St. Brown are all more integral to the offense's success. Goff is the Most Valuable Game Manager. I'll go as far as to say he doesn't finish top 3 in votes.

Right now he might squeak in at #3 but if Mahomes can keep up some momentum, I agree that he won't finish top 3.

Scottish Punk · 11-05-2024, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foleylion08

Goff isn't the best player on the offense. Just because he's the quarterback of the team does not mean he is the most valuable. Montgomery, Gibbs and St. Brown are all more integral to the offense's success. Goff is the Most Valuable Game Manager. I'll go as far as to say he doesn't finish top 3 in votes.

You are right, best player was poor word choice. The most important pieces on offense is Ragnow, Sewell, and the rest of the Oline. Montgomery is an average back, Gibbs is great. Both get boosts behind the best Oline in the game. Goff can't run at all, so Oline is a must for him.

We all know the QB will get all the credit for the team's offensive success when it is all said and done. I should have said Goff is the QB on what could be the best offense in the NFL.

foleylion08 · 11-05-2024, 11:04 AM

I don't have anything against Goff, he's just vanilla. Plain. There's not much exciting about his game. And voters vote for the flashy players or the stat compilers.

sethc1020 · 11-05-2024, 11:12 AM

Right now at the half way point I have to say Lamar but Henry really shouldn't be far behind him. After that Allen, Mahomes (if 2nd half is closer to last night he will start creeping up fast), Daniels, Goff, Burrow if he can find a way to get this team to the playoffs.

Above the Rim · 11-05-2024, 11:13 AM

One guy leads the NFL in both QB rating & Passer Rating - Lamar.

tjforce · 11-05-2024, 11:19 AM

I voted Allen.

Lamar has 2 things: Derrick Henry and 3 losses.

This award is "most valuable". Ravens are 6-3 with the best run game in football. Switch out Lamar with replacement level QB and the team is what, 5-4?. 4-5?

How quickly are people forgetting about him missing a wide open Zay Flowers and overthrowing Likely to lose vs the Chiefs? And yeah, that loss is to the 8-0 Chiefs which is understandable... but his other two losses?

Browns and Raiders.

Above the Rim · 11-05-2024, 11:23 AM

Ravens pass defense the the worst in NFL, Lamar's fault ?

asujbl · 11-05-2024, 11:35 AM

Baker obviously

Still have lots of PSA 10’s I need to move

escapegoat · 11-05-2024, 01:19 PM

dookie game is obv

gotw is pitt/was

dbpsooner · 11-05-2024, 01:27 PM

I voted Lamar. He would be my pick if the season ended today with Allen a close second and Burrow third. Like others, the Goff support is puzzling. He isn't asked to do anything in that offense. There are at least a dozen other QBs that could do what he is doing behind that o-line with those weapons.

View Poll Results: If you were voting right now, who is the MVP?
Allen	9	15.00%
Jackson	26	43.33%
Mahomes	3	5.00%
Goff	13	21.67%
Daniels	0	0%
Hurts	0	0%
Burrow	0	0%
Henry	3	5.00%
Nix	1	1.67%
Other	5	8.33%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

11-05-2024, 09:10 AM	#2
Bosoxfan5990 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: MA Posts: 14,531 rossisportscards	Begrudgingly voted for Lamar. Germany gets the poop game of the week. Good riddance. __________________ X & IG: rossisportcards. Bethel Johnson & A. Vinatieri. "A Goldin Shower of sorrow and regret." -ninjacookies (11/25/24) "never did, never will" - Delta5 (9/25/24)

11-05-2024, 09:21 AM	#6
the mesiah Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 5,698	Cincinnati <Baltimore New York Giants > Carolina New England<Chicago Buffalo >Indianapolis Denver <Kansas City Atlanta >New Orleans San Francisco >Tampa Bay Pittsburgh <Washington Minnesota >Jacksonville Tennessee <Los Angeles Chargers Philadelphia> Dallas New York Jets< Arizona Detroit>Houston Miami<Los Angeles Rams __________________ THE CARD/MEMORABILIA COLLECTION https://www.flickr.com/photos/149024462@N04/albums/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/196556801@N02/albums/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/196511489@N05/albums/

11-05-2024, 09:45 AM	#8
Boo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 57,121 klay22	I see the JGoffs are out in full force already. __________________ I have found that flicking through a few threads on my smartphone is a great way to pass some time while "stocking the pond."Hairy 6/7/12 “ I feel you, brother. Welcome to East Berlin, circa 1963.” Hairy 5/9/20

11-05-2024, 09:16 AM	#4
jplarson Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,578	Excellent poll, 10/10.

11-05-2024, 09:40 AM	#7
JeremyNick Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 22,801	Henry. I don’t care what you say, he needs to get recognized at least once. He’s a unicorn.

11-05-2024, 09:50 AM	#9
Derekbauer Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 3,956 dandcsportscards12 dandcsportscards12	Lamar and Henry are just so good right now it’s hard to vote for either over the other. What Goff is doing is also amazing but I’m back on Allen based on talent around him right now. __________________ -2012 Prizm Football Golds Chaser (Vets only) -FOUND! ‘03 Amani Toomer Chrome Gold Xfractor /101

11-05-2024, 09:52 AM	#10
foleylion08 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,636 dynastysportscards17	Four votes for Goff? Y'all are joking, right?

11-05-2024, 09:52 AM	#11
TheHeel Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15,613	Gotta go with Lamar. __________________ 48,230, 52,879, 40,400, 4,780 Pending Deals:

11-05-2024, 10:41 AM	#14
foleylion08 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,636 dynastysportscards17	Goff isn't the best player on the offense. Just because he's the quarterback of the team does not mean he is the most valuable. Montgomery, Gibbs and St. Brown are all more integral to the offense's success. Goff is the Most Valuable Game Manager. I'll go as far as to say he doesn't finish top 3 in votes.

11-05-2024, 11:04 AM	#18
foleylion08 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,636 dynastysportscards17	I don't have anything against Goff, he's just vanilla. Plain. There's not much exciting about his game. And voters vote for the flashy players or the stat compilers.

11-05-2024, 11:12 AM	#19
sethc1020 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,667 sethc_1020	Right now at the half way point I have to say Lamar but Henry really shouldn't be far behind him. After that Allen, Mahomes (if 2nd half is closer to last night he will start creeping up fast), Daniels, Goff, Burrow if he can find a way to get this team to the playoffs. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/gp/151086784@N06/28H47r

11-05-2024, 11:13 AM	#20
Above the Rim Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 756	One guy leads the NFL in both QB rating & Passer Rating - Lamar.

11-05-2024, 11:19 AM	#21
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,496	I voted Allen. Lamar has 2 things: Derrick Henry and 3 losses. This award is "most valuable". Ravens are 6-3 with the best run game in football. Switch out Lamar with replacement level QB and the team is what, 5-4?. 4-5? How quickly are people forgetting about him missing a wide open Zay Flowers and overthrowing Likely to lose vs the Chiefs? And yeah, that loss is to the 8-0 Chiefs which is understandable... but his other two losses? Browns and Raiders. __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

11-05-2024, 11:23 AM	#22
Above the Rim Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 756	Ravens pass defense the the worst in NFL, Lamar's fault ?

11-05-2024, 11:35 AM	#23
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,301 ohiosundevils	Baker obviously Still have lots of PSA 10’s I need to move __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

11-05-2024, 01:19 PM	#24
escapegoat Banned - PBM Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: WA State Posts: 4,744	dookie game is obv gotw is pitt/was

11-05-2024, 01:27 PM	#25
dbpsooner Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Omaha Posts: 2,990 dbpsooner	I voted Lamar. He would be my pick if the season ended today with Allen a close second and Burrow third. Like others, the Goff support is puzzling. He isn't asked to do anything in that offense. There are at least a dozen other QBs that could do what he is doing behind that o-line with those weapons.