Farhan Zaidi Fired, Buster Posey Named New President of Operations For the Giants

[Jaypers]

Who had this on their Bingo card for 2024? Wow.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/...perations.html

[Bosoxfan5990]

That's wild.

[PejaD]

Not shocked that Farhan is gone, but Posey has a very difficult job ahead and is not exactly steeped in front office experience.

[Hollywood42]

Interesting choice

[atk825]

Hiring Posey just seems really dumb. Maybe he's qualified but I also feel like franchise heroes always get these jobs and more often than not it turns out they are in over their head.

[ScooterD]

The Colts did something like this in the last few years - just hired a former player and fan favorite to coach. No prior experience in the position. Did Posey complete his college eduction?

[awz50]

Have that man with no baseball operation experience not the GM but the head of baseball operation lol

Dude has to be just a puppet with other gms working underneath him right??

[SoCalsFinest]

He's gonna get fired next year anyways.

[atk825]

Originally Posted by awz50

Have that man with no baseball operation experience not the GM but the head of baseball operation lol

Dude has to be just a puppet with other gms working underneath him right??

The way they extended Chapman thinks that ownership pushed for it. He had a great year, but man, that contract is gonna look bad sooner than later.

[SliderCutter14]

Originally Posted by SoCalsFinest

He's gonna get fired next year anyways.

First rule in sports management, if the previous guy had been setup for failure just hire another guy to take more blame so they can justify outside hiring... Giants might of taken some ideas from the Pirates
It'll be funny if the next option is an outsider such as Chipper Jones, make the Braves get crushed in both batting and pitching scouting

I'm waiting for the White Sox to pull a similar move, next guy pushes batters to use 34 in bats that weigh 36oz with Rob Deer as head of batting strategy

[boxbuster7]

That guy was always overrated

First rule of MLB is you never hire a card collector to run your team

[fabiani12333]

Are you guys buying, selling, or holding Posey's cards? He's still got a possible Hall of Fame induction to go along with his 3 rings, 1 MVP, 1 ROY, 7 AS selection, 1 Gold Glove, WBC championship, and ownership stake in the Giants etc.

He might want to add a successful tenure as president of baseball Ops to his resume.

Or maybe you're now realizing you forgot to feed the cat before heading out the door this morning.

[ewokpelts]

he's a part owner as well

[RiceBondsMT2Yng]

I personally can't stand Posey. I hate this hire. Those are independent and overlapping thoughts.

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by RiceBondsMT2Yng

I personally can't stand Posey. I hate this hire. Those are independent and overlapping thoughts.

I don't really hate him as a player, I just can't stand his first or last names. Putting them together was a double whammy for me.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by PejaD

Not shocked that Farhan is gone, but Posey has a very difficult job ahead and is not exactly steeped in front office experience.

Well, keep in mind that he will hire an outsider to be the GM.....POBO is more of a management/organization/hiring role than a front-line decision-making role.

And Buster's reputation and character will both be pluses when it comes to getting the right front office & development types to come to SF.

Something tells me that Buster would have handled Joey Bart a lot better than Zaidi did, for example.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

The Colts did something like this in the last few years - just hired a former player and fan favorite to coach. No prior experience in the position. Did Posey complete his college eduction?

The Colts hired Jeff Saturday as interim head coach half way through the season. Also, the Colts owner is a drug addict. What is the Giants excuse?

[ArsonCuff]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

I don't really hate him as a player, I just can't stand his first or last names. Putting them together was a double whammy for me.

Gerald Dempsey Posey III

[fabiani12333]

This isn't a Jeff Saturday situation -- Posey has been on the team's 6-person board of directors the last couple of years, advising the organization and helping oversee it. He's been watching and scrutinizing Farhan and baseball ops. He has a vision for the org that he wants to execute. He's a smart guy who is very goal oriented. This isn't a totally out-of-leftfield move, as former MLB pitcher Chris Young became the Rangers president of ops in 2022. He proceeded to hire Bruce Bochy as his manager and the Rangers went on to win the World Series in 2023.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

This isn't a Jeff Saturday situation -- Posey has been on the team's 6-person board of directors the last couple of years, advising the organization and helping oversee it. He's been watching and scrutinizing Farhan and baseball ops. He has a vision for the org that he wants to execute. He's a smart guy who is very goal oriented. This isn't a totally out-of-leftfield move, as former MLB pitcher Chris Young became the Rangers president of ops in 2022. He proceeded to hire Bruce Bochy as his manager and the Rangers went on to win the World Series in 2023.

Quite a few former players have become good front office execs, and catchers are generally pretty smart.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Did Posey complete his college eduction?

It looks like he might have (you spelled "education" wrong, btw):

August 29, 2023
The San Francisco legend has re-enrolled at Florida State University in search of a degree 15 years after he last attended, he told the Tallahassee Democrat's Jim Henry, taking two online courses in the fall semester that started Monday.

"I've kicked the tires on this for a while," Posey told Henry. "I've been going back and forth but finally committed to it a few months ago.

The 36-year-old is on a year-track to earn an Interdisciplinary Social Science degree, telling Henry he had a successful first day and that he wants to be a good role model for his four children.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/mlb...state/1651411/


He was a good student:

Apr 15, 2008
Posey, a finance major, was named to the President's List last spring for his 4.0 GPA, and made the Dean's List in the fall of 2005 and 2007.

What else does Posey do besides play baseball?

"School? There's nothing else to do, is there?" he said with a straight face. "Baseball and school, that's about all I do. That's about it, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I enjoy it, I really do. You have to."

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...ory?id=3337385

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by RiceBondsMT2Yng

I personally can't stand Posey. I hate this hire. Those are independent and overlapping thoughts.

This is the first negative comment I’ve ever seen about Posey. And I’m a NorCal guy and former baseball writer. It’s how you feel, so you be you. But it’s a very strange view.


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[Seitas]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

This is the first negative comment I’ve ever seem about Posey. And I’m a NorCal guy and former baseball writer. It’s how you feel, so you be you. But it’s a very strange view.


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It’s like hating vanilla ice cream. Unheard of.

[eye4talent]

This is BO, so who really cares what the naysayers are saying. But man, you guys are so far off the mark about Posey’s qualifications.

Posey is an intelligent guy, who played the most intellectually challenging position, and who’s been overseeing the front office from an owner’s viewpoint the past couple years. He has plenty of experience on either side of the front office. Now it’s applying that experience in a new role.

As someone who’s interviewed Zaidi and went to high school with Andrew Friedman, I can tell you that you that the job isn’t so complicated that it takes a

Zaidi is academically highly accomplished (MIT, Berkely masters) and had front office experience before joining the Giants, but he doesn’t understand the game the way Posey does: He mostly grew up in the Philippines, where he played baseball in an independent league of ex-pats during his high school years. That’s not the same as being a guy who won the Golden Spikes, ROY, MVP, and three World Series titles, and who has a college award named after him.

Friedman is reasonably intelligent and has some swagger, but he was a slightly above-average high school player and didn’t have any front office experience when the Rays hired him. Now, people say he’s brilliant because he inherited a boatload of high draft picks in Tampa and is currently winning NL West titles with endless financial resources.

If a couple of top-shelf free agents sign with the Giants because they had their team visit with the supremely accomplished Posey instead of the hopelessly nerdy Zaidi, that’s at least half the job right there.

Then, he needs to make sure talent is developed properly and that trades are properly negotiated. I don’t know about the latter, but I have a strong feeling that he knows how to evaluate talent and understands developing young players better than Zaidi.


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[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

This is the first negative comment I’ve ever seen about Posey. And I’m a NorCal guy and former baseball writer. It’s how you feel, so you be you. But it’s a very strange view.


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I have never heard anybody say the dislike buster posey - he is about as likeable as a player as there is