Read today that Negro League will be merged with MLB stats….

[cardsin47]

If true, what do you think about it? I think it’s a huge, unnecessary, ridiculous nightmare for us as Collectors!
Leave History alone!

[80s Kid]

They are already combined in Baseball Reference so I won't notice a difference.

Why do you think it is a nightmare for collectors?

[Crosby 87]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Leave History alone!

what?

[duwal]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

If true, what do you think about it? I think it’s a huge, unnecessary, ridiculous nightmare for us as Collectors!
Leave History alone!

Leave history alone or have history be more accurate??


but why would you think that it will be a nightmare for collectors? I don't see it as being a noticeable difference for fans and collectors

[awz50]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

If true, what do you think about it? I think it’s a huge, unnecessary, ridiculous nightmare for us as Collectors!
Leave History alone!

Huh? This is a strange post

They did this awhile ago on Baseball reference and you cannot tell the difference.

Also, this is history, so not sure how they are not "leaving it alone".

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by 80s Kid

They are already combined in Baseball Reference so I won't notice a difference.

Why do you think it is a nightmare for collectors?

Because now…. Who’s the greatest? Who has the highest ( insert stat ) ?
These guys never played each other, so which Pitcher has the lowest ERA? Who is the Home Run King? What happens to the $1 million card I just bought who had ( xyz ) as the greatest ( name the MLB stat )

Just because we live in the computer age, doesn’t mean we need to use that technology and combine Leagues to “act as if” player A who pitched in one League faced Player B as a hitter from another.

I could go on and on ….but am more interested to see what you guys/gals have to say…I only collect active player rookie and prospect cards, so don’t really have a dog in this fight —- it just doesn’t seem right ( to me ) though …..

[hammertime]

I think it makes sense, just a shame that the negro league stats are so incomplete.

[Charismatic44th]

Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson are now GOAT status

[theredmenace]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Because now…. Who’s the greatest? Who has the highest ( insert stat ) ?
These guys never played each other, so which Pitcher has the lowest ERA? Who is the Home Run King? What happens to the $1 million card I just bought who had ( xyz ) as the greatest ( name the MLB stat )

Just because we live in a computer age, doesn’t mean we need to combine Leagues and “act as if” player A from who pitched in one League faced Player B as a hitter.

I could go on and on ….

[awz50]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Because now…. Who’s the greatest? Who has the highest ( insert stat ) ?
These guys never played each other, so which Pitcher has the lowest ERA? Who is the Home Run King? What happens to the $1 million card I just bought who had ( xyz ) as the greatest ( name the MLB stat )

Just because we live in a computer age, doesn’t mean we need to combine Leagues and “act as if” player A who pitched in one League faced Player B as a hitter.

I could go on and on ….

None of those stats have been changed on baseball-reference. It looks the same.

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Because now…. Who’s the greatest? Who has the highest ( insert stat ) ?
These guys never played each other, so which Pitcher has the lowest ERA? Who is the Home Run King? What happens to the $1 million card I just bought who had ( xyz ) as the greatest ( name the MLB stat )

Just because we live in a computer age, doesn’t mean we need to use that technology, and combine Leagues to “act as if” player A who pitched in one League faced Player B as a hitter.

I could go on and on ….

Babe Ruth never faced Nolan Ryan.

Negro League seasons weren't long enough for any of the players to get enough counting stats to take over records.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by awz50

None of those stats have been changed on baseball-reference. It looks the same.

and there's a breakdown of split stats based on the leagues the players were in

[Twalk1975]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Because now…. Who’s the greatest? Who has the highest ( insert stat ) ?
These guys never played each other, so which Pitcher has the lowest ERA? Who is the Home Run King? What happens to the $1 million card I just bought who had ( xyz ) as the greatest ( name the MLB stat )

Just because we live in the computer age, doesn’t mean we need to use that technology and combine Leagues to “act as if” player A who pitched in one League faced Player B as a hitter.

I could go on and on ….

Who did you think was the home run king before today, Bonds or Aaron?

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by awz50

None of those stats have been changed on baseball-reference. It looks the same.

Perhaps the deeper issue is this appears to be just another attempt to make what isn’t, what is ….
We are now merging 2 different Leagues and ‘acting as if’ the Players faced each other. If I’m the only here that finds that absurd??? …then so be it …..

[BAHoopla]

I think this is awesome..and this thread was so unnecessary

[dbackschamp2001]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Perhaps the deeper issue is this appears to be just another WOKE attempt to make what isn’t, what is ….

Can always count on someone calling something they don't agree with "woke".

[Baseball4Fun]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Perhaps the deeper issue is this appears to be just another WOKE attempt…..

And there it is.

[Chris P]

Is this yet another thread where your posting while on meds? They always seem to be racially motivated. I won't be surprised when OP deletes his responses like all the other questionable threads he makes

[awz50]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Perhaps the deeper issue is this appears to be just another WOKE attempt to make what isn’t, what is ….
We are now merging 2 different Leagues and ‘acting as if’ the Players faced each other. If I’m the only here that finds that absurd??? …then so be it …..

Ah yes, there it is! So you don't agree with something so Its called woke got it. Because the players are from the negro leagues and the MLB decided to count the stats they had (none of these stats are record-breaking btw or effect anything statistically for anyone) its being called WOKE.

Yes, yes you are absurd for this train of thought and they are not acting like they faced each other, you can compare them but it says they played in two different leagues so yes again you are absurd for this train of thought.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by awz50

Huh? This is a strangle post
.

I’m not Trevor Bauer …..

[duwal]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

If I’m the only here that finds that absurd??? …then so be it …..

yes, yes you are. It is a very strange soapbox to stand on.

Pretty sure an overwhelming majority of collectors and fans hearing this news and immediately thought 'eh, whatever, sounds good'.

[awz50]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

I’m not Trevor Bauer …..

Ok that was sort of funny but dark. But funny. It is corrected

[Handsome Wes]

...i kinda thought that MLB had already done this.

I do wish that they fudged the numbers a little bit more so that Hank Aaron's Negro League totals (only five, after Integration) would put him back on top as MLB's HR king.

Side note, I wish that Baseball Reference had a filter on its Career pages that allowed you to hide all the players from before 1903 and also before 1947.

You look at single season WAR and... I get it, Old Hoss Hadburn put up great numbers against people who just arrived at the ballpark after a day in the coal mines. That doesn't really tell me anything about how to measure statistical seasons nowadays.

[Scottish Punk]

This is a fail thread full of woke. Did I do that right?

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by duwal

yes, yes you are. It is a very strange soapbox to stand on.

Pretty sure an overwhelming majority of collectors and fans hearing this news and immediately thought 'eh, whatever, sounds good'.

It's funny to me what things always tend to tick the op off into making a thread about before regretting