Inevitable Deadpool & Wolverine Card Set

[Rictor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMCNJP2ipI

So it seems inevitable that Upper Deck will do a Deadpool & Wolverine set as the new film should fall under their Marvel/Disney license. Sure, it's won't come out until 2 years after the movie, but I think it will definitely be a major release for them.

Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds have both signed for X-Men sets in the past, so it's possible Upper Deck will get one or both to sign. Unfortunately, they'd be sticker autos, but I'm sure that means we'd see both actors in a bunch of future Marvel Cinematic sets as well as UD will hoard those stickers for years and slowly trickle them out.

If I was Upper Deck, after doing a Deadpool & Wolverine set, I'd do a Deadpool Retrospective set of all 3 films, if Marvel would allow it. An X-Men Retrospective Set would also be a possibility. Same with Fantastic Four. Legally, there should be no issues. It's just whether Marvel wants new merchandising produced from the Fox films they own.

It looks like Deadpool will likely have a bunch of X-Men cameos and possibly even Dr. Doom (since they seem to be setting up Battle World), so the potential signer list could be huge.

[fabiani12333]

I think the movie is meant to be the end of the Fox X-Men universe. It's even said in the trailer that, "Everybody deserves a happy ending".

I saw both Deadpool films in the theater and thoroughly enjoyed both -- the second film was a big movie-going event. But I think the third film is going to be a disappointment because it's going to receive the Disney treatment -- in the trailer, you already see Disney's tampering with the inclusion of the Loki time cop characters (props if you get the 90s reference).

Regarding a future card release, a dual Reynolds-Jackman auto card is a no-brainer. Of course, it will be way too expensive for me to justify buying it. Thankfully, I already own gem mint-conditioned auto cards of both Reynolds and Jackman.

[One more set]

Will past release Deadpool and Wolverine marvel cards spike after the movie release?

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I saw both Deadpool films in the theater and thoroughly enjoyed both -- the second film was a big movie-going event. But I think the third film is going to be a disappointment because it's going to receive the Disney treatment -- in the trailer, you already see Disney's tampering with the inclusion of the Loki time cop characters (props if you get the 90s reference).

From the trailer it looks like they are still going for the R rating, but yea I feel they will water it down - just hopeful that they have learnt from the recent Marvel movies that they cant just pump out junk and expect $1b+ at the box office.

I mean Wolverine and Deadpool in the MCU is what I've wanted ever since the MCU gained momentum and when the Fox acquisition was initially floated I thought it was going to happen and then Hugh retired from Wolverine and it felt like the timing just missed out so I really really hope the movie is good. It certainly has the potential with the 2 best Marvel movie character portrayals that have been produced from all of the various movies/series imo.

[cardbooker]

I think the movie will be awesome. It’s the only MCU movie in 2024 so Marvel will go all out to ensure it’s a success. It’ll probably be in line with Spiderman No Way Home with lots of cameos and fan service. Many moviegoers will love it, some will hate it and complain. Can’t please everyone.

[cardbooker]

Originally Posted by One more set

Will past release Deadpool and Wolverine marvel cards spike after the movie release?

I expect the Ryan Reynolds on-card auto to increase significantly and to maintain its value even when/if UD releases a sticker version. It’s his only trading card auto and limited to 300-500 if I recall correctly.

Hugh Jackman has 4 different on-card autos, so probably not much of an increase. Sticker autos will drag the value down a bit, similar to what happened to Andrew Garfield Spiderman autos. Some folks will settle for sticker.

Hopefully neither sign for Leaf Pop Century. It’ll flood the market.

[Rictor]

Originally Posted by One more set

Will past release Deadpool and Wolverine marvel cards spike after the movie release?

They may go up, but I would expect the price to go down if Upper Deck releases new autos of them, just because there will be more autos overall in the marketplace.

[Rictor]

Originally Posted by cardbooker

Hopefully neither sign for Leaf Pop Century. It’ll flood the market.

LOL, hopefully they both sign for Leaf. I'm always for cheap autos being available of all celebs.

[glorbgorb]

Meh, I'm over the whole Ryan Reynolds schtick. He was 100% made for Deadpool--that's just his personality so he's not really acting. He is far more compelling in dramatic roles.

Anyway, in terms of the set that may be out by 2026, it really needs good autos. The increased number of parallels and manufactured cards (cels, patches, etc) are so old at this point.

[BobCollects]

I am curious if Upper Deck will make sets for this movie and the upcoming Fantastic Four movie now that 20th Century Fox is part of Disney.

For this set specifically, if UD can't get Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman as signers, there won't be much demand. The set needs both on board signing individually and dual cards.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by One more set

Will past release Deadpool and Wolverine marvel cards spike after the movie release?

Yes! Buy them all and get them all graded!

Did everyone saying this film will be Disney-fied see the trailer? There are clear shots taken at the studios. As much as I dislike the Deadpool character, this is probably the perfect movie at the perfect time.

I foresee a TON of cameos in this film (some likely outside of the MCU entirely, like Predator), which could make it a difficult card set depending on what/who they can show in the trading card medium.

[BipolarBear]

A Reynolds/Jackman dual auto would be amazing. Maybe they can get Brolin, too (not sure if he'll make an appearance in the movie or not). Wolverine/Cable/Deadpool auto would be peak 1991.

[fabiani12333]

I'm not trying to be a hater of Disney, but I wouldn't put my trust in anything they make -- it's very clear they have a brand and style that are not compatible with Deadpool.

I think fans of the MCU will look back and see the 2018-2019 time period as the golden age of Marvel films. It will also be the last time moviegoing was still mainstream.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by dd316

I foresee a TON of cameos in this film (some likely outside of the MCU entirely, like Predator), which could make it a difficult card set depending on what/who they can show in the trading card medium.

I saw Marvel Comics did a four-issue crossover between Wolverine and Predator -- it looks pretty cool.

[Rictor]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I'm not trying to be a hater of Disney, but I wouldn't put my trust in anything they make -- it's very clear they have a brand and style that are not compatible with Deadpool.

I think fans of the MCU will look back and see the 2018-2019 time period as the golden age of Marvel films. It will also be the last time moviegoing was still mainstream.

The pegging joke in the super bowl trailer makes me think they aren't really holding back.

[Rictor]

Originally Posted by dd316

I foresee a TON of cameos in this film (some likely outside of the MCU entirely, like Predator), which could make it a difficult card set depending on what/who they can show in the trading card medium.

Disney owns Predator and Upper Deck has the Predator trading card license, so there probably wouldn't be an issue.

The big question is why Upper Deck hasn't put out an Aliens vs. Predator trading card set or any Predator sets other than Weekly?

[dd316]

Originally Posted by Rictor

Disney owns Predator and Upper Deck has the Predator trading card license, so there probably wouldn't be an issue.

You'd be surprised how specific these contracts could be. Having Predator in the film probably means certain people get paid, but they'll do it in films because they know they'll make a ton of money regardless. In cards it's probably not worth it for them to deal with that hassle. It's why you see card sets for certain films that don't depict certain characters.

[glorbgorb]

Exactly. Licensing for printed goods can vary widely, as it covers everything from trading cards to stickers to party hats to notebook covers to balloons.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Rictor

The pegging joke in the super bowl trailer makes me think they aren't really holding back.

I am certain they will hold the film back because one of the biggest reasons the first two Deadpool films were popular was the politically incorrect and juvenile humor they contained. Disney will not allow that to be in their films. True comedy is dying. I am sure the movie will have satire and toned-down edgy humor, but it won't have anything that can be perceived as offensive or toxic.

[One more set]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I am certain they will hold the film back because one of the biggest reasons the first two Deadpool films were popular was the politically incorrect and juvenile humor they contained. Disney will not allow that to be in their films. True comedy is dying. I am sure the movie will have satire and toned-down edgy humor, but it won't have anything that can be perceived as offensive or toxic.

Disney is offensive and toxic…

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I am certain they will hold the film back because one of the biggest reasons the first two Deadpool films were popular was the politically incorrect and juvenile humor they contained. Disney will not allow that to be in their films. True comedy is dying. I am sure the movie will have satire and toned-down edgy humor, but it won't have anything that can be perceived as offensive or toxic.

This is my worry too, that they tone it down instead of ramping it up, but will hold judgement until it comes out.

[jdandns]

Since it already worked so well with "Once Upon A Deadpool", which was a PG-13 rated cut of "Deadpool 2" released in cinemas later along, there's a chance this new movie will also be arrive in an R-Rated version and then be re-released (perhaps at Christmastime) in a edited version that is more geared towards family viewing, with some of the raunchier material cleaned up and new scenes added.

[armyml]

Originally Posted by Xazark

This is my worry too, that they tone it down instead of ramping it up, but will hold judgement until it comes out.

I dunno. At the end of the day Disney is a business and they know a Wolverine/Deadpool movie is pretty much setting up a printer and printing money. I think Reynolds has so much creative control over the Deadpool character at this point that he will be able to get away with MOST of what he wants for the movie. Maybe not 100% but I don't think this will get "Disnified" or whatever the term is now. At this point 3 movies in they don't need focus groups to understand what Deadpool fans want. My guess is they take the money and forget about their "morals" for a while. Parks haven't been doing too hot lately they need all the money they can get.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by armyml

I dunno. At the end of the day Disney is a business and they know a Wolverine/Deadpool movie is pretty much setting up a printer and printing money. I think Reynolds has so much creative control over the Deadpool character at this point that he will be able to get away with MOST of what he wants for the movie. Maybe not 100% but I don't think this will get "Disnified" or whatever the term is now. At this point 3 movies in they don't need focus groups to understand what Deadpool fans want. My guess is they take the money and forget about their "morals" for a while. Parks haven't been doing too hot lately they need all the money they can get.

Disney has been doing a poor job in recent years of utilizing their properties. Do not underestimate their ability to take a surefire money-maker and make it a disappointment -- ditto for Hollywood in general. The big successes are far and few between nowadays. The last big MCU film was Spider-Man No Way Home in 2021, and it was a Sony property.

I expect Deadpool vs Wolverine to sell a healthy amount of movie tickets, purely based on the characters and actors alone. But I can already tell from the trailer that it will have plenty of meddling from Marvel Studios. They included the TVA characters from Loki because Marvel tries to interconnect all their MCU films and TV shows. They do this sometimes in a ham-fisted way which detracts from their movies or TV shows.

I also wouldn't put much trust in Ryan Reynolds because his movies beyond Deadpool are middling at best. His shtick is perfect for Deadpool, but with Disney involved, it's going to keep his creativity restricted.

[fabiani12333]

The perfect time to have released a Deadpool vs Wolverine film would have been after the sequel in 2018. This was peak popularity for Deadpool and after the big success of Logan in 2017. But Hugh Jackman reportedly didn't want to do it because Logan was supposed to be his swan song for Wolverine.

Now Disney/Marvel wants to recapture that magic and repackage it in a new film over a half decade later. But things have changed so much since then. It really comes across as grasping at straws -- trying to lean into nostalgia.