Grading companies

bounty37h · 02-01-2024, 01:29 PM

I know psa and bgs are the 2 big dogs-they have the strongest lock on the market and many are very loyal to either or both. I'm personally not a fan of the psa label look, looks like designed on a 1980's dos program imo. That said, both seem to hold the highest value due to customer preference.
My question, what other companies are moving up into a possible competition-have good reputation for their grading, pricing and market value? Where are companies like sgc ( cant recall other companies offhand) seen by collectors/hobby/sellers? Will any others ever reach psa/bgs level status?

cj828282 · 02-01-2024, 01:36 PM

I don't think BGS is that popular anymore. CGC and SGC have gained ground. PSA seems far to reach at this point and the preferred grading company. I don't think this accounts for the differences in sports cards versus gaming cards grading.

https://twitter.com/gemrate/status/1...922183/photo/1

This is a better graphic breaking down the sports/non-sports. For baseball PSA is tops with SGC and then Beckett for last year's submissions.

https://twitter.com/gemrate/status/1...612477/photo/1

rms13 · 02-01-2024, 01:52 PM

BGS is 3 or 4 at this point. I'd say it's the big 1 now with PSA and SGC is a distant second. CGC and BGS fighting for the leftover scraps

DynaEtch · 02-01-2024, 02:06 PM

Not a grader nor do I like it, but from my observations, PSA is king, SGC big for vintage, CGC big for nonsports especially marvel and gaming cards (and also gaining some ground for modern sports), and BGS seems to be behind in a lot (the quality of slab is nice if a bit bulky, one thing that really hurts it is the Gem Mint not being 10.0, but 9.5- collectors and flippers dont like that, which CGC realilzed real quick and changed their system to match that).

sauceboy · 02-01-2024, 02:24 PM

Highly recommend watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUvKMsvhQBA

If you're not a fan of what the PSA label looks like, I'd strongly recommend SGC for cards that you're considering PCing. SGC is rapidly picking up ground on BGS in terms of resale value, too.

There's also TAG, which uses AI to grade cards. I've never used them before, but people seem to like them a lot. I could see them exploding in popularity over the next few years.

ThoseBackPages · 02-01-2024, 03:15 PM

PSA laps everyone else

SGC is good for fast turnaround but their slabs are very bulky and unattractive

CGC has the best plastic in the game

BGS is dead

JohnnyAppleseed · 02-01-2024, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sauceboy

Highly recommend watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUvKMsvhQBA

If you're not a fan of what the PSA label looks like, I'd strongly recommend SGC for cards that you're considering PCing. SGC is rapidly picking up ground on BGS in terms of resale value, too.

There's also TAG, which uses AI to grade cards. I've never used them before, but people seem to like them a lot. I could see them exploding in popularity over the next few years.

TAG jumping from $15/card to $30/card for their 1000-point scale seems like a poor business decision. Should be $20/card at most.

The slabs are nice though.

Bcr · 02-01-2024, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

PSA laps everyone else

SGC is good for fast turnaround but their slabs are very bulky and unattractive

CGC has the best plastic in the game

BGS is dead

End of thread

rms13 · 02-01-2024, 04:11 PM

Also CGC is in the midst of scandal on the comic book side where they are the PSA of comic books. Apparently you are able to open a CSC comic slab and replace the comic with a lower grade one without anyone being able to tell that is was tampered with

asujbl · 02-01-2024, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

PSA laps everyone else

SGC is good for fast turnaround but their slabs are very bulky and unattractive

CGC has the best plastic in the game

BGS is dead

I don’t know about CGC but this is right

BGS is garbage

PSA is king and there isn’t a close second

SGC is popular however

pumpkinescobar · 02-01-2024, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyAppleseed

TAG jumping from $15/card to $30/card for their 1000-point scale seems like a poor business decision. Should be $20/card at most.

The slabs are nice though.

The rationale behind the price increase is because they were getting too much volume at the lower price. For a period of 2-3 weeks were "sold out" of TAG S since they did not have the capacity to continue accepting orders.

If you want the 1,000 point scale and are price conscious, you can get bulk subs of TAG S for $24 with a minimum of 25 cards.

I only grade for my PC and not for resale, but I will only use TAG or SGC.

ThoseBackPages · 02-01-2024, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pumpkinescobar

The rationale behind the price increase is because they were getting too much volume at the lower price. For a period of 2-3 weeks were "sold out" of TAG S since they did not have the capacity to continue accepting orders.

If you want the 1,000 point scale and are price conscious, you can get bulk subs of TAG S for $24 with a minimum of 25 cards.

I only grade for my PC and not for resale, but I will only use TAG or SGC.

"too much volume"?

they are in invisible grader, they should only hope to get "too much volume"

mikejones · 02-01-2024, 04:52 PM

Reminds me during covid when everyone was a grader. Example: Bob's basement grading company.

ThoseBackPages · 02-01-2024, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejones

Reminds me during covid when everyone was a grader. Example: Bob's basement grading company.

and the lovely ladies at HGA!

asujbl · 02-01-2024, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejones

Reminds me during covid when everyone was a grader. Example: Bob's basement grading company.

What was the design your own label one? Was that different than the AI one? Or the one that could grade your 100 cards in 36 hours?

They all blend together

asujbl · 02-01-2024, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

and the lovely ladies at HGA!

Which one was that?

ThoseBackPages · 02-01-2024, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

What was the design your own label one? Was that different than the AI one? Or the one that could grade your 100 cards in 36 hours?

They all blend together

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Which one was that?

that was HGA!

mikejones · 02-01-2024, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Which one was that?

They used the gimmick of matching the card color with the slab.

asujbl · 02-01-2024, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejones

They used the gimmick of matching the card color with the slab.

That’s was the stupidest thing ever

Memories

marl1220 · 02-01-2024, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

PSA laps everyone else

SGC is good for fast turnaround but their slabs are very bulky and unattractive

CGC has the best plastic in the game

BGS is dead

I really like the design of the CGC label.

mikejones · 02-01-2024, 05:24 PM

HGA pic I took off ebay.

Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk

asujbl · 02-01-2024, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejones

HGA pic I took off ebay.

Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk

Covid was wild

thewild3 · 02-01-2024, 06:17 PM

PSA has been really good to me lately. Turnaround time has been phenomenally fast!!!

Drew3000 · 02-01-2024, 06:32 PM

I like SGC but I don’t have any slabs post-1973

rms13 · 02-01-2024, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejones

They used the gimmick of matching the card color with the slab.

It was a good gimmick. They are the only slabbed cards I like the look of. But I don't own any or any graded cards anymore so I don't care.

02-01-2024, 01:29 PM	#1
bounty37h Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,438	Grading companies I know psa and bgs are the 2 big dogs-they have the strongest lock on the market and many are very loyal to either or both. I'm personally not a fan of the psa label look, looks like designed on a 1980's dos program imo. That said, both seem to hold the highest value due to customer preference. My question, what other companies are moving up into a possible competition-have good reputation for their grading, pricing and market value? Where are companies like sgc ( cant recall other companies offhand) seen by collectors/hobby/sellers? Will any others ever reach psa/bgs level status? __________________ Looking for UNC and Reds cards/autos/memorabilia. Go Heels Go Reds

02-01-2024, 01:36 PM	#2
cj828282 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 13,967	I don't think BGS is that popular anymore. CGC and SGC have gained ground. PSA seems far to reach at this point and the preferred grading company. I don't think this accounts for the differences in sports cards versus gaming cards grading. https://twitter.com/gemrate/status/1...922183/photo/1 This is a better graphic breaking down the sports/non-sports. For baseball PSA is tops with SGC and then Beckett for last year's submissions. https://twitter.com/gemrate/status/1...612477/photo/1 Last edited by cj828282; 02-01-2024 at 01:39 PM.

02-01-2024, 02:06 PM	#4
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,732	Not a grader nor do I like it, but from my observations, PSA is king, SGC big for vintage, CGC big for nonsports especially marvel and gaming cards (and also gaining some ground for modern sports), and BGS seems to be behind in a lot (the quality of slab is nice if a bit bulky, one thing that really hurts it is the Gem Mint not being 10.0, but 9.5- collectors and flippers dont like that, which CGC realilzed real quick and changed their system to match that). __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~

02-01-2024, 03:15 PM	#6
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,449 ThoseBackPages	PSA laps everyone else SGC is good for fast turnaround but their slabs are very bulky and unattractive CGC has the best plastic in the game BGS is dead __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

02-01-2024, 04:52 PM	#13
mikejones Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: fresno Posts: 5,191	Reminds me during covid when everyone was a grader. Example: Bob's basement grading company. __________________ Why the hell are you buying Siemian stuff. Dude is done, can't you tell I'm trying to get rid of him because he'll never be our starting QB again....

02-01-2024, 01:52 PM	#3
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	BGS is 3 or 4 at this point. I'd say it's the big 1 now with PSA and SGC is a distant second. CGC and BGS fighting for the leftover scraps

02-01-2024, 02:24 PM	#5
sauceboy Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Posts: 553 sauceboy	Highly recommend watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUvKMsvhQBA If you're not a fan of what the PSA label looks like, I'd strongly recommend SGC for cards that you're considering PCing. SGC is rapidly picking up ground on BGS in terms of resale value, too. There's also TAG, which uses AI to grade cards. I've never used them before, but people seem to like them a lot. I could see them exploding in popularity over the next few years.

02-01-2024, 04:11 PM	#9
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	Also CGC is in the midst of scandal on the comic book side where they are the PSA of comic books. Apparently you are able to open a CSC comic slab and replace the comic with a lower grade one without anyone being able to tell that is was tampered with

02-01-2024, 05:24 PM	#21
mikejones Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: fresno Posts: 5,191	HGA pic I took off ebay. Sent from my SM-G981U1 using Tapatalk __________________ Why the hell are you buying Siemian stuff. Dude is done, can't you tell I'm trying to get rid of him because he'll never be our starting QB again....

02-01-2024, 06:17 PM	#23
thewild3 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,053	PSA has been really good to me lately. Turnaround time has been phenomenally fast!!! __________________ If you got time to sell cards, then make time to ship them out in a timely manner!!!!!!

02-01-2024, 06:32 PM	#24
Drew3000 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Kentucky Posts: 862	I like SGC but I don’t have any slabs post-1973 __________________ Looking for: 2010 Joey Votto Topps Black /59