Paolo Auto On NT vs his Older Auto

[PSA2Pac]

Something seems off about every single NT auto that Paolo signed supposedly..

IMO, it looks like somebody trying to do a bad imitation of his normal signature

Glancing quickly thru eBay, every single NT auto is from the same hand and looks suspect

The ‘Paolo’ portion looks like a bad imitation. Doesn’t flow freely

The ‘B’ is completely different. His normal B looks almost like a 3 with a little up slope at the bottom of the B (he actually signs the B from the bottom up as I watched him sign in person for my son last season). The new ‘B’ is top heavy and leaning forward, on every single new NT sig

These look off














This is his old/regular auto






Could he have changed his auto? Of course. IMO this doesn’t seem to be the case though. Instead it seems somebody else might have signed his biggest cards..


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[RAV2773]

Probably Luka's mom

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[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by RAV2773

Probably Luka's mom

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Could be

She didn’t sign any of Lukas cards so I could see her spending that time practicing Paolos

[Lee42]

I agree this was one of the first thing I noticed when I saw his NT cards.

His signature has been pretty consistent with all of his earlier releases and stickers.

The ones that are always a good tool to compare against are the Draft Night autos. These stickers are signed on draft night so we know they are signed by the player.



Interesting to see more examples of his auto.

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by Lee42

I agree this was one of the first thing I noticed when I saw his NT cards.

His signature has been pretty consistent with all of his earlier releases and stickers.

The ones that are always a good tool to compare against are the Draft Night autos. These stickers are signed on draft night so we know they are signed by the player.



Interesting to see more examples of his auto.

Yup, that’s def a real Paolo

We got these last season in-person (I slabbed the ticket later on myself)





These new NT autos are way off. Sometimes signatures evolve but what I’m seeing looks more to be somebody trying to copy his actual signature and failing miserably

Curious to see if people in the market for these cards takes notice or not..


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[PSA2Pac]

Somebody sent me this - I guess Packman noticed too apparently (altho he’s tryna say it’s his “new” graph)



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[KhalDrogo]

No surprise one of the clown “influencers” is trying to spin it that way.

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

No surprise one of the clown “influencers” is trying to spin it that way.

Gotta keep the train from falling off the tracks and hurting that YouTube ad revenue

[Nomad]

Autos evolve rapidly in rookie year. Don't overthink it.

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Autos evolve rapidly in rookie year. Don't overthink it.

Evolution and fraud are two different things but if you group them together - more power to your Aaron Nesmith super collection

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Autos evolve rapidly in rookie year. Don't overthink it.

This is a great example of a player simplifying their auto after realizing how many items they are being forced to sign. Banchero’s auto becomes more complex and has multiple unusual alterations.

[Nomad]

I guess the main differentiator is that there is like a lower case n in middle of the suspect examples and a kind of z in the middle of the legit.... that is actually a weird discrepancy.

What about this: "No one really knows this, it is my first time really saying it but I had nerve damage that was in my neck and it went through down my whole right arm. The injury happened, I think, in the last game of January (against Philadelphia) and so the whole February, my whole right arm was kind of messed up. I don’t want to blame that as the whole reason why I went 1-for-33 but people see that and 3% is crazy."

That is the one thing that could actually explain a dramatic shift. "Nerve injury induces a new profile of tactile and mechanical nociceptor input from undamaged peripheral afferents." Wonder when he was signing what product?

[GrangerCollectr]

Originally Posted by RAV2773

Probably Luka's mom

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Or Messi's brother

[IronCladLou]

God my sig varies every bloody time. I am surprised how consistent some of them keep it.

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by IronCladLou

God my sig varies every bloody time. I am surprised how consistent some of them keep it.

And I get that. Everybody’s signatures vary.

This has nothing to do with variance, however.

Originally Posted by Nomad

I guess the main differentiator is that there is like a lower case n in middle of the suspect examples and a kind of z in the middle of the legit.... that is actually a weird discrepancy.

Lot more than that though. Every single line is suspect.

Starting with the line of the P in Paolo, the down then up portion. His normal sig is one continuous motion yet every one of the NTs has the line signed by itself first, never doing the entire P at once. After the line is written, then the top circular part of the P is added separately. Followed by the rest of his first name looking way off and not a single NT example looks anything like how he normally signs his first name.

The B is an even bigger issue than Paolo. I mentioned it in my OG post but his normal B looks almost like the number 3, with a tiny up slope at the bottom of the B. Again, he signs the B from the bottom up(ending at the top)

The suspect B is too heavy on every example and looks nothing like his normal B

Re: the injury thing, anything is possible but I’m skeptical

[cypher]

Originally Posted by RAV2773

Probably Luka's mom

Only a matter of time before the Paolo investor arrives to state the expected defense.

"My autograph varies over time" "It's a small sticker"

They are heavily invested and will defend these signatures to no end.

Luka Doncic has never signed perfect Lulus since his rookie year. He never will again. Because someone else signed those stickers and cards.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by cypher

Only a matter of time before the Paolo investor arrives to state the expected defense.

"My autograph varies over time" "It's a small sticker"

They are heavily invested and will defend these signatures to no end.

Luka Doncic has never signed perfect Lulus since his rookie year. He never will again. Because someone else signed those stickers and cards.

100%.

Yes, there is evidence Luka has signed "Lulu" before, but like you said, nothing like those short and loopy ones on some stickers.

We know Panini just mails these cards to the athletes and then they sign when they want and just mail them back. There's no video evidence for each card (remember those Upper Deck Pen Cams?). There's not a Panini employee watching the process in person. And on top of that, Panini's QC is less than stellar (i.e. Cam Reddish's single line autos).

Those Paolo autos look very suspect. I suppose there is a chance he signed them. As we've said with Lulu, it's impossible to prove either way unless one party miraculously confesses when there is no motive to do so other than pure honest living (and wanting to set yourself up to be sued).

[Nomad]

So the bottom line is put up with a dot and a squiggle or accept an elaborate mom or bro hoax. And then we have guys like pack pulling vets with beautiful old school sigs and going I don't even know who this is. SMH.

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by cypher

Luka Doncic has never signed perfect Lulus since his rookie year. He never will again. Because someone else signed those stickers and cards.

Over the past three years my sons have gotten Luka multiple times in person, ranging from super sloppy to Lulu.

Idk if it’s exactly the Lulu that some of you are referring to but I’ll post a pic when I’m home in a few minutes - they have a couple of really clean Lulu’s

Based on what they’ve received I actually think all his Panini card signed stuff is good (but I understand people will always be skeptical)

[PSA2Pac]

Not to turn this into a Luka thread but just wanted to follow up.

These were obtained in person at a Nuggets game

My kids have gotten some sloppy ones in a less fan friendly environment but these are their two best. Luka took his time I guess

His auto ranges from super rushed/SUPER sloppy to Lulu














The Paolos don’t look rushed, they look like a bad attempt at somebody trying to copy how he signs IMO

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

Not to turn this into a Luka thread but just wanted to follow up.

These were obtained in person at a Nuggets game

My kids have gotten some sloppy ones in a less fan friendly environment but these are their two best. Luka took his time I guess

His auto ranges from super rushed/SUPER sloppy to Lulu














The Paolos don’t look rushed, they look like a bad attempt at somebody trying to copy how he signs IMO

Yeah, no doubt Luka signs some "Lulu" stuff.

The ones I haven't seen him sign before are the ones with the extra long lead up/ramp to the first "L." Like the lower right sig in Category C:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...81&postcount=1

Again, at this point, ppl are gonna believe what they want to believe on both sides. Any in-person auto is great bc it usually comes with a cool story like you shared with your kids. Card-wise, I'm only going for the Luka scribble.

For Paolo I'm staying far away from NT based on what you shared and for other reasons like the "non-event relics." Maybe Flawless will be better? (Yes, I'm in the Flawless camp).