2022 Contenders FOTL

brothertona · 03-21-2023, 09:47 AM

No thread but started one - chances that Contenders FOTL hits the floor at $300 (which would be a not terrible price honestly)

Bob Ross · 03-21-2023, 10:03 AM

It's that time again kiddos

oldgoldy97 · 03-21-2023, 10:04 AM

JeremyNick · 03-21-2023, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

It's that time again kiddos

Waiting for your prediction Floorstradamus.

Bob Ross · 03-21-2023, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Waiting for your prediction Floorstradamus.

wilsonsingles · 03-21-2023, 10:43 AM

this could actually be a good product if they didn't do the stupid non numbered red zone auto parallels. serial number these to under 25 and it would be awesome.

my prediction $360-$370 (wherever the exact drop is)

epatmythes · 03-21-2023, 11:00 AM

Hobby pre-sale was $450...

This should sell-out (umm, get pulled) between $464 and $473

Asian62150 · 03-21-2023, 11:03 AM

One of the main guys to chase after was literally the last pick of the draft. And he's out for at least 6 months and might not start when he returns.

Long term maybe someone emerges but short term, this isn't desirable, esp. at these price points.

epatmythes · 03-21-2023, 11:03 AM

Oops, I see hobby pre-sale is now $425... interesting...

but I'll still stick with $464-473

wilsonsingles · 03-21-2023, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by epatmythes

Oops, I see hobby pre-sale is now $425... interesting...

but I'll still stick with $464-473

hardly any difference between FOTL and regular Hobby, just really one non auto /20..

epatmythes · 03-21-2023, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsonsingles

hardly any difference between FOTL and regular Hobby, just really one non auto /20..

Just the Red Zone. No argument from me, both are over-priced.

I had to do that math...

$466.67

Breakers need their crack to peddle, and the collusion will make it so!

Just guessing of course (would love to see it hit the floor and sit)

Bob Ross · 03-21-2023, 11:43 AM

I suspect the fix will be in at exactly $424.98

Asian62150 · 03-21-2023, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by epatmythes

Just the Red Zone. No argument from me, both are over-priced.

I had to do that math...

$466.67

Breakers need their crack to peddle, and the collusion will make it so!

Just guessing of course (would love to see it hit the floor and sit)

There's hope. Prizm hobby has been sitting there for awhile

phil · 03-21-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

I suspect the fix will be in at exactly $424.98

off by 2 cents

Bob Ross · 03-21-2023, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phil

off by 2 cents

It's been a long day of painting. I'm slipping.

phil · 03-21-2023, 12:42 PM

$383.33 for at least a few seconds. Tried to buy there and missed.

Tonic3 · 03-21-2023, 12:42 PM

Sold out $383.33

Bob Ross · 03-21-2023, 12:42 PM

$183.33 too much.

epatmythes · 03-21-2023, 12:56 PM

So I'm guessing Panini will put hobby out at $350 now???

With the big 3 charging $425-450???

I love this!!!

mossoholic · 03-21-2023, 01:03 PM

These products are being priced presale at prices no one will pay to prop up FOTL to "sell out" higher than it should virtually every time. If Contenders was priced at $300, FOTL sells out at $300.

2022 Limited Football presale is $350. Who would possibly pay that right now? They probably have not sold a single box at that price. But they have no incentive whatsoever to sell it. Their cost is $117 a box. There are several recent 2021 Limited hobby box sales on ebay between $250-$300. One less than 2 weeks ago for $250. It's $300 on dealernet. 2021 Limited FOTL is so in demand not a single box sold the last 3 months on ebay. Why would anyone pay more money for 2022?

epatmythes · 03-21-2023, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mossoholic

These products are being priced presale at prices no one will pay to prop up FOTL to "sell out" higher than it should virtually every time. If Contenders was priced at $300, FOTL sells out at $300.

2022 Limited Football presale is $350. Who would possibly pay that right now? They probably have not sold a single box at that price. But they have no incentive whatsoever to sell it. Their cost is $117 a box. There are several recent 2021 Limited hobby box sales on ebay between $250-$300. One less than 2 weeks ago for $250. It's $300 on dealernet. 2021 Limited FOTL is so in demand not a single box sold the last 3 months on ebay. Why would anyone pay more money for 2022?

Contenders IS priced at $425-450, FOTL DID sell out at $383...

My head (and wallet) has been out of the wax game since 2019... but my heart wants to believe that the chinks in the armor are starting to break through and the racket is almost up.

Still gonna be awhile, but today was nice to see!

mossoholic · 03-21-2023, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by epatmythes

Contenders IS priced at $425-450, FOTL DID sell out at $383...

My head (and wallet) has been out of the wax game since 2019... but my heart wants to believe that the chinks in the armor are starting to break through and the racket is almost up.

Still gonna be awhile, but today was nice to see!

No it's just how overpriced Contenders hobby was. Same with Obsidian. Prizm FOTL still sold out above hobby presale. If prices for 2022 are where they should be compared to 2021, FOTL will sell out the same or higher. Prizm was priced well below what 2021 was selling at. With as high of a FOTL count as any FOTL product Prizm sold above presale. Presale on Obsidian, Contenders, and Limited all above where 2021 is selling. The 2 of the 3 that have been auctioned sold out multiple drops below. If you check market value for products that have been out for awhile 2021 is outselling 2022 on everything.

Nothing 2022 should have a presale price at or above 2021. Yet they are pricing it that way. Bums have no incentive to sell. Whether you like it or not, Prizm is one of the hottest products of the year. 2022 Prizm hobby is selling for 60% of what 2021 is selling for. Why would anyone pay at or above 2021 price for the 2022 version of any hobby product? Im talking breakers as well. Wouldn't you get more interest in breaking at the same or lower cost the same 2021 product as 2022?

The worst thing that happened for buyers of 2022 football wax was Brock Purdy. Bums are pricing all new 2022 with the assumption Purdy is in every product when he hasn't been in a bunch of them. If you want hobby or FOTL at release you have to buy it with no clue what the checklist will be.

majestik101 · 03-21-2023, 02:12 PM

I remember when a box of Contenders could be had for $175

Bob Ross · 03-21-2023, 04:59 PM

I forget, but isn't 2021 NON-Optic Contenders the product that the one doofus got caught trimming and submitting to PSA for mostly 10's?

roberth404 · 03-21-2023, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

I forget, but isn't 2021 NON-Optic Contenders the product that the one doofus got caught trimming and submitting to PSA for mostly 10's?

Yes! kongscards53 - still in business!!

03-21-2023, 09:47 AM	#1
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,965 brothertona1	2022 Contenders FOTL No thread but started one - chances that Contenders FOTL hits the floor at $300 (which would be a not terrible price honestly)

03-21-2023, 10:04 AM	#3
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50,999	__________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

03-21-2023, 11:03 AM	#8
Asian62150 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 6,505 Asian62150	One of the main guys to chase after was literally the last pick of the draft. And he's out for at least 6 months and might not start when he returns. Long term maybe someone emerges but short term, this isn't desirable, esp. at these price points. __________________ IG: Asian62150

03-21-2023, 12:42 PM	#17
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,473	Sold out $383.33 __________________ Always looking for: 2001 SP Authentic Golf - Preview parallels - Gold (#/250) and Red (#/50) of any player...especially Tiger Woods.

03-21-2023, 02:12 PM	#23
majestik101 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socially Distanced Posts: 43,922 majestik101	I remember when a box of Contenders could be had for $175 __________________ NYC 1653-2025 "Watson alone sells for over $20" https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182760

03-21-2023, 10:03 AM	#2
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,317	It's that time again kiddos

03-21-2023, 10:43 AM	#6
wilsonsingles Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 8,501 wilsonsetsandsingles	this could actually be a good product if they didn't do the stupid non numbered red zone auto parallels. serial number these to under 25 and it would be awesome. my prediction $360-$370 (wherever the exact drop is)

03-21-2023, 11:00 AM	#7
epatmythes Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Da U.P. Eh! Posts: 2,500 epatmythes	Hobby pre-sale was $450... This should sell-out (umm, get pulled) between $464 and $473

03-21-2023, 11:43 AM	#12
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,317	I suspect the fix will be in at exactly $424.98

03-21-2023, 12:42 PM	#16
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,690	$383.33 for at least a few seconds. Tried to buy there and missed.

03-21-2023, 12:56 PM	#19
epatmythes Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Da U.P. Eh! Posts: 2,500 epatmythes	So I'm guessing Panini will put hobby out at $350 now??? With the big 3 charging $425-450??? I love this!!!

03-21-2023, 01:03 PM	#20
mossoholic Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 6,352	These products are being priced presale at prices no one will pay to prop up FOTL to "sell out" higher than it should virtually every time. If Contenders was priced at $300, FOTL sells out at $300. 2022 Limited Football presale is $350. Who would possibly pay that right now? They probably have not sold a single box at that price. But they have no incentive whatsoever to sell it. Their cost is $117 a box. There are several recent 2021 Limited hobby box sales on ebay between $250-$300. One less than 2 weeks ago for $250. It's $300 on dealernet. 2021 Limited FOTL is so in demand not a single box sold the last 3 months on ebay. Why would anyone pay more money for 2022?

03-21-2023, 04:59 PM	#24
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,317	I forget, but isn't 2021 NON-Optic Contenders the product that the one doofus got caught trimming and submitting to PSA for mostly 10's?