Jalen Hurts - Why no love on Blowout?

[brock]

Disclaimer: I'm a big Eagles fan
Disclaimer 2: I have 2-3 terrible Jalen Hurts Prizm jersey cards that I pulled out of Fanatics blasters... nothing else. Bought a bunch of Wentz RCs and got destroyed... so I'm a little light on JH RCs.

Why is there seemingly no love for Jalen Hurts on Blowout? Is it because people hate the Eagles and their fans? Is it because few people here own his cards?

He put together a pretty special season in his 2nd act as a full-time starter and really balled out (random fumble notwithstanding) on the biggest stage. And yet I see more people talking about Brock Purdy (lolz), Justin Herbert, the Traskmaster, Josh Allen, Tua, etc. on here.

What's the scoop? Where is the love?

Disclaimer 3: I'm hoping this turns into a well trafficked JHurts love thread... which probably means I'll get rolled by the BO mob and this will become a hate thread.

[blockedbyjames]

Originally Posted by brock

Disclaimer: I'm a big Eagles fan
Disclaimer 2: I have 2-3 terrible Jalen Hurts Prizm jersey cards that I pulled out of Fanatics blasters... nothing else. Bought a bunch of Wentz RCs and got destroyed... so I'm a little light on JH RCs.

Why is there seemingly no love for Jalen Hurts on Blowout? Is it because people hate the Eagles and their fans? Is it because few people here own his cards?

He put together a pretty special season in his 2nd act as a full-time starter and really balled out (random fumble notwithstanding) on the biggest stage. And yet I see more people talking about Brock Purdy (lolz), Justin Herbert, the Traskmaster, Josh Allen, Tua, etc. on here.

What's the scoop? Where is the love?

Disclaimer 3: I'm hoping this turns into a well trafficked JHurts love thread... which probably means I'll get rolled by the BO mob and this will become a hate thread.

It's the football offseason. Everyone is hunting in silence. All the buzz has dried up for Allen, Burrow, Purdy, Herbert, and heck even Mahomes to a degree. The country's economic outlook is a huge question mark.

China is dominating the world markets while the US is debating what a woman is. Eastern Europe is on the brink of another world war. The middle east is about to launch nukes at each other.

Why on earth would anyone be investing in overpriced QB cards when we can chase the top RBs, WRs, and defensive players for 1/10th of the price?

[jplarson]

You could be the guy to start the "The Official Collectors Are Sleeping On Jalen Hurts" thread and become immortalized forever!

Or bump one of these threads:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1537458
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1541668
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1541730
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1429462

Originally Posted by blockedbyjames

The country's economic outlook is a huge question mark.

China is dominating the world markets while the US is debating what a woman is. Eastern Europe is on the brink of another world war. The middle east is about to launch nukes at each other.

Anything else?

[blackbears86]

There is no love. He's an overrated Lam Jack clone who will be forgotten about in 5 years.

[blockedbyjames]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

There is no love. He's an overrated Lam Jack clone who will be forgotten about in 5 years.

That's a little harsh. He might be the best QB in the NFC depending on Arod.

[marinocollector]

Originally Posted by blockedbyjames

It's the football offseason. Everyone is hunting in silence. All the buzz has dried up for Allen, Burrow, Purdy, Herbert, and heck even Mahomes to a degree. The country's economic outlook is a huge question mark.

China is dominating the world markets while the US is debating what a woman is. Eastern Europe is on the brink of another world war. The middle east is about to launch nukes at each other.

Why on earth would anyone be investing in overpriced QB cards when we can chase the top RBs, WRs, and defensive players for 1/10th of the price?

We come here to get away from that stuff. Jesus man. Besides, none of that stuff is different than 10 years ago.

Originally Posted by blackbears86

There is no love. He's an overrated Lam Jack clone who will be forgotten about in 5 years.

You're not quite aware of how good Jalen is.


Here's my hot take OP. Jalen was not 100% for the Super Bowl. Biggest stage, he couldn't show off the monster he became and was in the beginning half of the season. He was efficient and a great leader, but he does not have the "It" factor. The Eagles were played up as the "bad guys" of the Super Bowl, and the Eagles offensive scores felt more like the "beating up on the good guy" machines that have been villainized by Hollywood. The Eagles are a forced to be reckoned with, and will be for a long time IMO. That is squarely on the shoulder of Hurts, who definitely is a strong leader and had a HUGE leap this off season thanks to coaches and getting rid of the WR who dropped everything and replacing him with AJ frickin Brown.

If you're an Eagles fan and like Hurts? I would STFU and buy everything I could afford ASAP because after 2-3 more winning seasons, I don't think you be able to anymore.

I'd also mention other things about Philly and that fan base, but I'll let others point that out.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by blockedbyjames

That's a little harsh. He might be the best QB in the NFC depending on Arod.

I'm totally kidding. I thought it was known where I stand on him by my posts in the other JH threads.


He's going to be a beast.


Now, if we could all just shut up about him, I might be able to get a few more cards of his at reasonble prices

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by marinocollector

We come here to get away from that stuff. Jesus man. Besides, none of that stuff is different than 10 years ago.






Here's my hot take OP. Jalen was not 100% for the Super Bowl. Biggest stage, he couldn't show off the monster he became and was in the beginning half of the season. He was efficient and a great leader, but he does not have the "It" factor. The Eagles were played up as the "bad guys" of the Super Bowl, and the Eagles offensive scores felt more like the "beating up on the good guy" machines that have been villainized by Hollywood. The Eagles are a forced to be reckoned with, and will be for a long time IMO. That is squarely on the shoulder of Hurts, who definitely is a strong leader and had a HUGE leap this off season thanks to coaches and getting rid of the WR who dropped everything and replacing him with AJ frickin Brown.

If you're an Eagles fan and like Hurts? I would STFU and buy everything I could afford ASAP because after 2-3 more winning seasons, I don't think you be able to anymore.

I'd also mention other things about Philly and that fan base, but I'll let others point that out.

yeah, kind of kidding with my post. I'm a fan.

[marinocollector]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

yeah, kind of kidding with my post. I'm a fan.

My bad. I see stupid stuff posted all the time and cant keep track of whos real dumb and whos dumb dumb.
Except for Mfaulkcollector. He's both.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by marinocollector

My bad. I see stupid stuff posted all the time and cant keep track of whos real dumb and whos dumb dumb.
Except for Mfaulkcollector. He's both.

After Brady and Patty, I'm all over him, but unfortunately so is everyone else.



BUT........there are still some reasonable buys out there.

[blockedbyjames]

Originally Posted by marinocollector

We come here to get away from that stuff. Jesus man. Besides, none of that stuff is different than 10 years ago.


You're not quite aware of how good Jalen is.


Here's my hot take OP. Jalen was not 100% for the Super Bowl. Biggest stage, he couldn't show off the monster he became and was in the beginning half of the season. He was efficient and a great leader, but he does not have the "It" factor. The Eagles were played up as the "bad guys" of the Super Bowl, and the Eagles offensive scores felt more like the "beating up on the good guy" machines that have been villainized by Hollywood. The Eagles are a forced to be reckoned with, and will be for a long time IMO. That is squarely on the shoulder of Hurts, who definitely is a strong leader and had a HUGE leap this off season thanks to coaches and getting rid of the WR who dropped everything and replacing him with AJ frickin Brown.

If you're an Eagles fan and like Hurts? I would STFU and buy everything I could afford ASAP because after 2-3 more winning seasons, I don't think you be able to anymore.

I'd also mention other things about Philly and that fan base, but I'll let others point that out.

Actually it is. 10 years ago teenage boys weren't squandering millions upon millions of dollars on modern sportscards just to get their IG status viral for a few months and then dump at enormous losses.

It's our job to at least warn as many people as possible NOT to do that. Economic conditions will never allow the bubble to happen again. You're not getting rich from your cards 10x'ing in 2 months anymore. So don't try.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by marinocollector

We come here to get away from that stuff. Jesus man. Besides, none of that stuff is different than 10 years ago.

In 2013, the US had a budget deficit of $680 Billion Dollars. A Dozen eggs cost $1.93. The economy was humming.

In 2023, we are looking at a Federal deficit of $1.38 Trillion Dollars. Over twice as much in the red. A Dozen eggs costs $4.25. The economy has been tanking since COVID.

In 2013, Prime Minister Yanukovych was building monuments in the Ukraine, to express their friendship with Russia. 2023, not so much.

I think its fair to say that the current economy and global issues are having an effect on how people spend their money.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by marinocollector

We come here to get away from that stuff. Jesus man.

Speak for yourself, I like the fact my doomscrolling can now include BO.

[pejc300]

He was so impressive in the Super Bowl. I was most impressed with his arm. The guy was dropping dimes. I’m a believer.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by pejc300

He was so impressive in the Super Bowl. I was most impressed with his arm. The guy was dropping dimes. I’m a believer.

So I've rewatched the Super Bowl several times and have listened to a few of the top analysts break down his game and how the Chiefs played him. To sum it up:

The Chiefs sold out to stop the Eagles running backs and dared to put the entire game on the back of Hurts. That meant making him keep the ball in the run game by not committing defensive linemen to him, and giving him beatable coverages, provided he could make good throws. They knew he'd make plays, but bet that he'd make enough mistakes to give them a chance to win.

And you know what? He almost did enough to beat them. I still can't decide if it was the right strategy or not: On one hand, he dropped 35 points on you. On the other hand, you won the Super Bowl.

A high stakes game of chess was being played there.

[pejc300]

For sure. But he just didn’t miss. Plenty of QBs miss with bad coverage. But Hurts was hitting beautiful spots on 3 and 14s and the ball placement was perfect. He impresses the heck out of me.

[blockedbyjames]

Originally Posted by tjforce

So I've rewatched the Super Bowl several times and have listened to a few of the top analysts break down his game and how the Chiefs played him. To sum it up:

The Chiefs sold out to stop the Eagles running backs and dared to put the entire game on the back of Hurts. That meant making him keep the ball in the run game by not committing defensive linemen to him, and giving him beatable coverages, provided he could make good throws. They knew he'd make plays, but bet that he'd make enough mistakes to give them a chance to win.

And you know what? He almost did enough to beat them. I still can't decide if it was the right strategy or not: On one hand, he dropped 35 points on you. On the other hand, you won the Super Bowl.

A high stakes game of chess was being played there.

my op, the defensive game plan actually stunk. As someone rooting for the chiefs, thank goodness Jalen was barely only the 2nd best player on the field and not the 1st. Thanks to some more magic from the best player in the country and the best coach, the chiefs got lucky out-scheming against clearly better Eagles players. The Eagles would've destroyed any other team that day.

[brock]

Originally Posted by jplarson

You could be the guy to start the "The Official Collectors Are Sleeping On Jalen Hurts" thread and become immortalized forever!

Or bump one of these threads:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1537458
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1541668
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1541730
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1429462




Anything else?

LOL. You are a troll. While there are in fact 4 Jalen Hurts threads in existence, none are dedicated to talking about the lack of love on BO for what appears to be at least a top 5 QB in the NFL. And a top 5 QB that had zero hype in 2020 and minimal hype in 2021.

An underrated aspect of the Jalen Hurts Experience TM is his press conferences. Awesome mentality. Usually produces a solid one-liner or two as well. If he continues working as hard as he did the last two offseasons... he may be punching the ticket for multiple Patty v Jalen Superbowls.

Back to the thread topic though.

This guy can:
1) Run
2) Throw (although I'm eager to see if he can maintain the consistency we saw through much of '22 and carry that for 10+ years)
3) Protect the ball (RIP randomly dropping the football in the super bowl. What awful luck)
4) Lead teammates
5) Give great interviews

I think he should be included in more top 5 conversations on BO.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by brock

LOL. You are a troll. While there are in fact 4 Jalen Hurts threads in existence, none are dedicated to talking about the lack of love on BO for what appears to be at least a top 5 QB in the NFL. And a top 5 QB that had zero hype in 2020 and minimal hype in 2021.

An underrated aspect of the Jalen Hurts Experience TM is his press conferences. Awesome mentality. Usually produces a solid one-liner or two as well. If he continues working as hard as he did the last two offseasons... he may be punching the ticket for multiple Patty v Jalen Superbowls.

Back to the thread topic though.

This guy can:
1) Run
2) Throw (although I'm eager to see if he can maintain the consistency we saw through much of '22 and carry that for 10+ years)
3) Protect the ball (RIP randomly dropping the football in the super bowl. What awful luck)
4) Lead teammates
5) Give great interviews

I think he should be included in more top 5 conversations on BO.

From what JP posted:

Jalen Hurts - it’s time…
His prices seems relatively cheap considering his team appears, as of now, to be the best team in the NFC.
THOUGHTS? Where am I going wrong?

Jalen Hurts Prices
Birds are now 12-1. Hurts currently favored to win MVP.
So when is the big price increase coming?

Your thread. Hurts is awesome, why aren't his cards worth more? Where is the love! Why aren't more people making these threads? Which is just yet another thread asking the same questions.

The only difference is, your thread asked if its because people hate Eagles fans. And then you trashed a board member who said Hurts is getting mentions here. And here are some of those threads.

You sure are playing into the "Eagles Fans are Pricks" stereotype.

[jplarson]

Disclaimer: Alshon Jeffery is one of my all-time favorite football players and I'm super happy he helped the Eagles win a Super Bowl. The team also employed one of my favorite running backs Jordan Howard for a number of years and gifted the Bears a fine draft pick for Robert Quinn.

Disclaimer 2: QB Eagles is one of the most fun players to use in Tecmo Super Bowl on the NES and I've always had a soft spot for the team thanks to that.

Disclaimer 3: Buddy Ryan helped build the most baller defense in history and I wished him the best when he was the Eagles HC.

Disclaimer 4: I like Jalen Hurts a lot and thought he was unfairly written off in 2020 and to some extent 2021 due to "accuracy issues".

Having said all that....

Originally Posted by brock

LOL. You are a troll. While there are in fact 4 Jalen Hurts threads in existence, none are dedicated to talking about the lack of love on BO for what appears to be at least a top 5 QB in the NFL. And a top 5 QB that had zero hype in 2020 and minimal hype in 2021.

...I'm reminded of the words of a wise sage on BO:

Originally Posted by asujbl

I don’t know who you are. I also don’t care

Come at me when you matter

[boxbuster7]

I think the simple answer is he lost in the super bowl. That said I am a fan of his and think he deserves to be at the top of the list of young QB with Burrow.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by brock

[I] Is it because people hate the Eagles and their fans? Is it because few people here own his cards?

Seem to be the prevailing themes, at least from my interpretation.

I personally think he's amazing, and had a tremendous Super Bowl performance.

But you're rarely going to get much discussion here on players that don't own equity in the BO investerboi hivemind.


We also have to remember the entire market is down, including Mahomes. Jalen winning the SB probably wouldn't have done much for his prices, either.

[djdevon]

Originally Posted by marinocollector

Here's my hot take OP. Jalen was not 100% for the Super Bowl.

I never watched the Eagles too closely, but I thought that he was having trouble throwing deep. I thought he might have arm trouble myself.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Seem to be the prevailing themes, at least from my interpretation.

I personally think he's amazing, and had a tremendous Super Bowl performance.

But you're rarely going to get much discussion here on players that don't own equity in the BO investerboi hivemind.


We also have to remember the entire market is down, including Mahomes. Jalen winning the SB probably wouldn't have done much for his prices, either.

It would've done more for his prices than mahomes winning

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

It would've done more for his prices than mahomes winning

Perhaps after a brief lull.

People never learn. Every year following a super bowl victory, the winning QB's prices drop due to the sudden influx of everyone rushing to cash in at the same time. Hell, it even happened to Foles.


Buy the rumor, sell the news.