Am I wrong?

BringFireBreaks · 03-01-2023, 11:37 PM

I bought into a PYT break with a well known breaker. The product was 2023 Topps Series 1. The disclaimer did say that "vet base won't ship". I bought The Mariners and when my package arrived it was minus all the Julio Rodriguez Gold Cup RC and the Cal Raleigh "Future Stars" cards. I emailed the breaker and he said those were vet base. Is he right? A gold cup and a "future stars" card are "vet base"? Really? I'm out 8 of those J-Rod cards and 5 Cal's. Cal is a PC and that J-Rod card has value not only now but if he continues on his trajectory.....how is a Gold Cup card a "Vet Base"? I do not understand. Please comment!

Jolten Joe · 03-01-2023, 11:40 PM

No Rc logo = Veteran base unfortunately

towerymt · 03-01-2023, 11:42 PM

Hits only.

rms13 · 03-01-2023, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Hits only.

Sounds like hits and rookie base. I only buy into breaks where all cards ship. I want all the worthless cards I paid for

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rysportguy · 03-01-2023, 11:55 PM

I think it goes breaker by breaker. The vet base won't ship breaks I have been in they shipped any insert card and any rookie cup card. A good breaker should include those.

mikejones · 03-02-2023, 12:04 AM

Yea, the disclaimer said vet base wont ship which means anything not a rc. So, you shouldn't get those since you knew it wouldn't be included. Have you tried sorting a case by teams? It's a lot of work so I understand breakers not wanting to ship base on breaks like flagship topps and heritage.

Jolten Joe · 03-02-2023, 12:11 AM

in his defense I can understand the confusion at least on the Julio since a lot of people call it Rookie Cup. But end of the day that's why you clarify not assume.

JWBlue · 03-02-2023, 12:19 AM

Sorry for missing out but any card that is not a RC is a veteran.

Maybe try and work something out with an additional payment.

seanbros55 · 03-02-2023, 01:00 AM

Public Service Announcement - Don’t buy into breaks

Also - READ THE FINE PRINT

Centauri3 · 03-02-2023, 05:20 AM

Yes, you are wrong

kess · 03-02-2023, 08:46 AM

Technically you're wrong, but the seller is a DB for doing that.

If sorting base from a break is too much work, that breaker should find another job.

MoreToppsPlease · 03-02-2023, 08:50 AM

Technically second year players aren’t considered veterans or journeymen. But gotta read the fine print.

Bambino22 · 03-02-2023, 09:16 AM

Are they donating the vet base cards or selling?

cholodolo · 03-02-2023, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BringFireBreaks

I bought into a PYT break with a well known breaker. The product was 2023 Topps Series 1. The disclaimer did say that "vet base won't ship". I bought The Mariners and when my package arrived it was minus all the Julio Rodriguez Gold Cup RC and the Cal Raleigh "Future Stars" cards. I emailed the breaker and he said those were vet base. Is he right? A gold cup and a "future stars" card are "vet base"? Really? I'm out 8 of those J-Rod cards and 5 Cal's. Cal is a PC and that J-Rod card has value not only now but if he continues on his trajectory.....how is a Gold Cup card a "Vet Base"? I do not understand. Please comment!

Sorry to hear about this disappointing situation.

A few housekeeping questions:
Who is this "well known" breaker? How much did you pay for the Mariners spot? What platform was this on? Do you have any recourse?

If this is a veteran breaker, he did this knowingly and on purpose. Complete sleaze move. Despite some of the hard-liners who have answered before me, I do not take the position that Vet base is anything not an RC -- if that was the case, Topps wouldn't print rookie cups and future stars on the card. We all know what Vet Base doesn't ship means -- Kurt Suzuki and Craig Kimbrel cards aren't shipping. The most celebrated rookie from the previous season's Rookie Cup card? That's not a vet base under any circumstance. Vet base cards don't have Rookie Cups on them.

He intends to sell them at a profit as you bought the spot. Name and shame this sleaze ball.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikejones

Yea, the disclaimer said vet base wont ship which means anything not a rc. So, you shouldn't get those since you knew it wouldn't be included. Have you tried sorting a case by teams? It's a lot of work so I understand breakers not wanting to ship base on breaks like flagship topps and heritage.

I'm not sure these types of comments are useful. Do you happen to be a breaker? If they don't want to sort a case by teams -- why offer to break a case by team? Like, hello?

rainmaker · 03-02-2023, 12:48 PM

I’m glad I’ve never played or even considered playing in the group breaks part of pool.

Badgers0821 · 03-02-2023, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cholodolo

Sorry to hear about this disappointing situation.

A few housekeeping questions:
Who is this "well known" breaker? How much did you pay for the Mariners spot? What platform was this on? Do you have any recourse?

If this is a veteran breaker, he did this knowingly and on purpose. Complete sleaze move. Despite some of the hard-liners who have answered before me, I do not take the position that Vet base is anything not an RC -- if that was the case, Topps wouldn't print rookie cups and future stars on the card. We all know what Vet Base doesn't ship means -- Kurt Suzuki and Craig Kimbrel cards aren't shipping. The most celebrated rookie from the previous season's Rookie Cup card? That's not a vet base under any circumstance. Vet base cards don't have Rookie Cups on them.

He intends to sell them at a profit as you bought the spot. Name and shame this sleaze ball.

I'm not sure these types of comments are useful. Do you happen to be a breaker? If they don't want to sort a case by teams -- why offer to break a case by team? Like, hello?

This is the most absurd comment anyone could have made and completely out of touch with reality…legal recourse? Get outta here. I hope no one else reads this comment.

Badgers0821 · 03-02-2023, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kess

Technically you're wrong, but the seller is a DB for doing that.

If sorting base from a break is too much work, that breaker should find another job.

You know not all breakers do it as a “job” right? Some do it for fun.

Badgers0821 · 03-02-2023, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Technically second year players aren’t considered veterans or journeymen. But gotta read the fine print.

This is 100% not true. In any sport if you aren’t a rookie then you are a veteran.

SupermanBrandon · 03-02-2023, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

This is 100% not true. In any sport if you aren’t a rookie then you are a veteran.

Bingo! /thread

cholodolo · 03-02-2023, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

This is the most absurd comment anyone could have made and completely out of touch with reality…legal recourse? Get outta here. I hope no one else reads this comment.

No, Mr. Breaker -- recourse with the platform he purchased on. You know, customer service, refunds etc.

You mentioned legal recourse, which would of course be absurd.

Nice chat.

sandyfrank · 03-02-2023, 01:05 PM

I never use a breaker that refuses to ship all my cards. If I pay for the Mariners I want all my cards.

BC Hunt · 03-02-2023, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sandyfrank

I never use a breaker that refuses to ship all my cards. If I pay for the Mariners I want all my cards.

Kinda the bottom line, if you want all the cards to ship don't join a break where all cards don't ship

And if you don't know what constitutes "vet base", and you don't ask questions before joining, that's on you.

Badgers0821 · 03-02-2023, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholodolo

No, Mr. Breaker -- recourse with the platform he purchased on. You know, customer service, refunds etc.

You mentioned legal recourse, which would of course be absurd.

Nice chat.

Either way, your comment is absurd but not shocking.

cholodolo · 03-02-2023, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

Either way, your comment is absurd but not shocking.

Either way you were completely and totally wrong. I hope many people read your comment.

Will also note you had nothing of substance to respond with so resorted to intentionally misreading my comment. Good look for breakers.

OhioLawyerF5 · 03-02-2023, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Badgers0821

You know not all breakers do it as a “job” right? Some do it for fun.

If you are taking people's money, it not just for fun.

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03-01-2023, 11:37 PM	#1
BringFireBreaks Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 1	Am I wrong? I bought into a PYT break with a well known breaker. The product was 2023 Topps Series 1. The disclaimer did say that "vet base won't ship". I bought The Mariners and when my package arrived it was minus all the Julio Rodriguez Gold Cup RC and the Cal Raleigh "Future Stars" cards. I emailed the breaker and he said those were vet base. Is he right? A gold cup and a "future stars" card are "vet base"? Really? I'm out 8 of those J-Rod cards and 5 Cal's. Cal is a PC and that J-Rod card has value not only now but if he continues on his trajectory.....how is a Gold Cup card a "Vet Base"? I do not understand. Please comment!

03-02-2023, 12:04 AM	#6
mikejones Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: fresno Posts: 5,020	Yea, the disclaimer said vet base wont ship which means anything not a rc. So, you shouldn't get those since you knew it wouldn't be included. Have you tried sorting a case by teams? It's a lot of work so I understand breakers not wanting to ship base on breaks like flagship topps and heritage. __________________ Why the hell are you buying Siemian stuff. Dude is done, can't you tell I'm trying to get rid of him because he'll never be our starting QB again....

03-02-2023, 08:50 AM	#12
MoreToppsPlease Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 8,676	Technically second year players aren’t considered veterans or journeymen. But gotta read the fine print. __________________ IRS Tax Tip 2022-57 A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit.

03-02-2023, 09:16 AM	#13
Bambino22 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,543	Are they donating the vet base cards or selling? __________________ I collect Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, and Marco Luciano. Looking for Yordan Alvarez /5 2020 Sterling Auto.

03-02-2023, 12:48 PM	#15
rainmaker Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,824 thewescoast	I’m glad I’ve never played or even considered playing in the group breaks part of pool. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/152850287@N08/albums

03-01-2023, 11:40 PM	#2
Jolten Joe Banned - PBM Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 1,666	No Rc logo = Veteran base unfortunately

03-01-2023, 11:42 PM	#3
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,684	Hits only.

03-01-2023, 11:55 PM	#5
rysportguy Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,750 ry_9507	I think it goes breaker by breaker. The vet base won't ship breaks I have been in they shipped any insert card and any rookie cup card. A good breaker should include those.

03-02-2023, 12:11 AM	#7
Jolten Joe Banned - PBM Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 1,666	in his defense I can understand the confusion at least on the Julio since a lot of people call it Rookie Cup. But end of the day that's why you clarify not assume.

03-02-2023, 12:19 AM	#8
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,416	Sorry for missing out but any card that is not a RC is a veteran. Maybe try and work something out with an additional payment.

03-02-2023, 01:00 AM	#9
seanbros55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: From the 508 to the 707 Posts: 5,369	Public Service Announcement - Don’t buy into breaks Also - READ THE FINE PRINT

03-02-2023, 05:20 AM	#10
Centauri3 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 280 b-mor	Yes, you are wrong

03-02-2023, 08:46 AM	#11
kess Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 143 donaldtrunk	Technically you're wrong, but the seller is a DB for doing that. If sorting base from a break is too much work, that breaker should find another job.

03-02-2023, 01:05 PM	#21
sandyfrank Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 981	I never use a breaker that refuses to ship all my cards. If I pay for the Mariners I want all my cards.