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Old 01-16-2023, 02:40 PM   #1
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:42 PM   #2
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Finally, something that will bring together the "quit virtue signaling" crowd and the "stop trying to profit from his tragedy" crowd.

It's almost beautiful how we can all hate this together.
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:44 PM   #3
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Oh but but but they're making an unspecified donation to his charity!! What good hearted folks over at Leaf!
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:47 PM   #4
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This just makes me sick. I shouldn’t expect anything else from Leaf, though.
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:51 PM   #5
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Better or worse than sellers jacking up his RPAs the night of the incident? Please weigh in, BO!
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:53 PM   #6
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:56 PM   #7
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Better or worse than sellers jacking up his RPAs the night of the incident? Please weigh in, BO!
Creating an entire product from scratch and using his old autograph stickers to take advantage of the worst moment of this young man's life? All while pretending you care about prayer so you can appeal to a particular demographic? FAR worse.
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:57 PM   #8
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Better or worse than sellers jacking up his RPAs the night of the incident? Please weigh in, BO!
It's slimier (I'm sure they also mocked up memorial designs in case he didn't make it), but the $99 price is somewhat less cartoonishly evil than the sellers who went straight to $4k+ while Hamlin was still receiving CPR.

Not thrilled with either party in this moral question.
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:58 PM   #9
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We live in strange hobby times.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:09 PM   #10
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Dear lord, how is this real. Real shame BG didn’t post this himself to vet feedback here.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:15 PM   #11
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Would be better if it was all proceeds go to his charity instead of being "proud to announce it will be making a donation to the Damar Hamlin Foundation".
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:19 PM   #12
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For whatever it's worth, per Leaf on the tweet announcing these, they aren't old stickers as they didn't have a contract with him until after he recovered. So it would seem at least that Damar is entirely onboard with these.

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Old 01-16-2023, 03:26 PM   #13
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For whatever it's worth, per Leaf on the tweet announcing these, they aren't old stickers as they didn't have a contract with him until after he recovered. So it would seem at least that Damar is entirely onboard with these.

https://twitter.com/Leaf_Cards/statu...67002850213897
If that’s the case, then that’s fine. I figured they were just using a bunch of leftover stickers they had laying around.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:32 PM   #14
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We live in strange hobby times.
Indeed. I picture the hobby as a circle of snakes all eating each others tails until one day there is nothing left. Its what it deserves.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:33 PM   #15
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Finally, something that will bring together the "quit virtue signaling" crowd and the "stop trying to profit from his tragedy" crowd.

It's almost beautiful how we can all hate this together.
First, you write beautifully.

Second, I agree with everything you said.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:35 PM   #16
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Finally, something that will bring together the "quit virtue signaling" crowd and the "stop trying to profit from his tragedy" crowd.

It's almost beautiful how we can all hate this together.
Yup, makes me sick.
Profit at any cost, principals be damned.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:41 PM   #17
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For whatever it's worth, per Leaf on the tweet announcing these, they aren't old stickers as they didn't have a contract with him until after he recovered. So it would seem at least that Damar is entirely onboard with these.

https://twitter.com/Leaf_Cards/statu...67002850213897
Yes good points. This can still be a garbage money grab move by Leaf, and another ugly card, but if Damar approves then fair play to him.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:50 PM   #18
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For whatever it's worth, per Leaf on the tweet announcing these, they aren't old stickers as they didn't have a contract with him until after he recovered. So it would seem at least that Damar is entirely onboard with these.

https://twitter.com/Leaf_Cards/statu...67002850213897
I’m sure he is. So while I don’t have a problem with it, it still makes me shake my head considering who is producing them.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:52 PM   #19
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Yes good points. This can still be a garbage money grab move by Leaf, and another ugly card, but if Damar approves then fair play to him.
Seeing as how Hamlin's career is likely over (I think?), I don't blame him for getting a check and securing a donation to his charity.

In general I don't have a problem with companies providing avenues for good people to fundraise for good causes, but this one just feels a bit too much like Brian Gray cash-grab. I rank it up there with all the "breast cancer" charities making huge profits. Good cause, bad execution, worse people behind the scenes.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:54 PM   #20
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"Leaf is proud to celebrate PRAYERS ANSWERED in Damar Hamlin's amazing story! "

"Leaf is also proud to announce it will be making a donation to the Damar Hamlin Foundation in conjunction with this exciting celebration."

What a disgusting person (Brian Gray) and company (Leaf).
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Old 01-16-2023, 05:20 PM   #21
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I have no problem with this as long as it receives Demar's full backing and support. Not sure why he would stoop to leaf levels but if it puts more eyeballs on his faith and a portion of the sales proceeds goes towards his charity it doesn't seem like a bad move on his part. Why not try to capitalize on it.

Brian Gray might be slimy to some but he's certainly not as slimy as those who were listing $5k Hamlin RPAs on eBay at the very moment he was receiving mouth to mouth.
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Old 01-17-2023, 10:38 AM   #23
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Brian Gray once said he would never feature an OJ Simpson autograph in his products unless he could guarantee all of the proceeds would go to the Brown/Goldman families. OJ is now widely included in Pro Set/Leaf things, but Brian sure has been quiet about the funds going to the families when asked about it.
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Old 01-17-2023, 10:56 AM   #25
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For whatever it's worth, per Leaf on the tweet announcing these, they aren't old stickers as they didn't have a contract with him until after he recovered. So it would seem at least that Damar is entirely onboard with these.

https://twitter.com/Leaf_Cards/statu...67002850213897
This links to a deleted tweet, did Brian once again say something incorrect?

With Giannis and currently Ronaldinho, suing Leaf for alleged image and licensing concerns, it would be really interesting to hear from Damar, on this release.
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