Probstein listed backdoored 03-04 Shaq Platinum and PSA agrees with it

rimshaqer34 · 12-19-2022, 12:18 AM

Just want to make an awareness, Probstein just listed this Shaquille O'neal 2003-04 Ultra Platinum PSA 9

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364083493123

And it's a non numbered one. You can see the back on the listing. PSA didn't note it in their labeling.

Then Probstein also list another 2003-04 Ultra Platinum Shaq PSA 7 but it didn't have a photo of the back of the card so we won't know if it's numbered or not.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364077609645

Why is it so hard for Probstein to include both front and back photo in their listings?

90sbasketballin · 12-19-2022, 01:00 AM

Links not working for me brother

Gidtheson · 12-19-2022, 02:52 AM

they might have been yanked, cannot find them on eBay

3124508 on COMC · 12-19-2022, 03:34 AM

Nothing new. See it several times every week just in the extremely small segment of the market in which I am a participant. The ones I love the most are PSA and PSA/DNA dual authenticated cards of fake autographs on counterfeit cards. Makes me chuckle every time.

3124508 on COMC · 12-19-2022, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 90sbasketballin

Links not working for me brother

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Originally Posted by Gidtheson

they might have been yanked, cannot find them on eBay

You have to copy/paste the links if you’re on a computer.

90skid · 12-19-2022, 07:06 AM

Both the PSA 7 and PSA 9 were listed days ago and had bids. Then the PSA 9 was taken down suddenly and now appears to be re-listed overnight, with the back photo.

If I recall right once bids have been placed you can't edit the listing and add a new photo, etc - so that's probably why the PSA 7 doesn't have the back photo added, they'd have to end it and re-list like they did with the PSA 9.

They were both graded very recently in the same submission it appears, back to back based on their cert #'s - has PSA always been that way and grades backdoor'd fleers?

rimshaqer34 · 12-19-2022, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 90sbasketballin

Links not working for me brother

Just fixed the link...apologies....

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Originally Posted by Gidtheson

they might have been yanked, cannot find them on eBay

They are still there

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Nothing new. See it several times every week just in the extremely small segment of the market in which I am a participant. The ones I love the most are PSA and PSA/DNA dual authenticated cards of fake autographs on counterfeit cards. Makes me chuckle every time.

well, the one grading are all human...and they make errors

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Originally Posted by 90skid

Both the PSA 7 and PSA 9 were listed days ago and had bids. Then the PSA 9 was taken down suddenly and now appears to be re-listed overnight, with the back photo.

If I recall right once bids have been placed you can't edit the listing and add a new photo, etc - so that's probably why the PSA 7 doesn't have the back photo added, they'd have to end it and re-list like they did with the PSA 9.

They were both graded very recently in the same submission it appears, back to back based on their cert #'s - has PSA always been that way and grades backdoor'd fleers?

Means probably the PSA 7 listed will be taken down soon and relisted soon with back photo.

ReggieBush22 · 12-19-2022, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Nothing new. See it several times every week just in the extremely small segment of the market in which I am a participant. The ones I love the most are PSA and PSA/DNA dual authenticated cards of fake autographs on counterfeit cards. Makes me chuckle every time.

Agreed and that is absolute insanity!

That's one reason why i never even consider buying a PSA/DNA auto. So easy to fake an auto and pass the subjective eye test and have it slabbed in a PSA holder.

NBAicons · 12-19-2022, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Nothing new. See it several times every week just in the extremely small segment of the market in which I am a participant. The ones I love the most are PSA and PSA/DNA dual authenticated cards of fake autographs on counterfeit cards. Makes me chuckle every time.

Lmao

auburn35 · 12-20-2022, 10:07 PM

I reached out to Nat yesterday and just noticed the PSA 9 without serial that Probstein123 is selling is now deactivated. The 7 cert is still active, so maybe that one did have a serial or still being researched?

Nice catch.

rimshaqer34 · 12-21-2022, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by auburn35

I reached out to Nat yesterday and just noticed the PSA 9 without serial that Probstein123 is selling is now deactivated. The 7 cert is still active, so maybe that one did have a serial or still being researched?

Nice catch.

Probstein just ended the PSA 7 one, meanwhile the non numbered PSA 9 is still live

90skid · 12-21-2022, 07:48 AM

I see the PSA 7 listing (Cert # 68982475) sold at auction end for $41 on 12/19. It was never re-listed, etc. The cert does not have images so we still can't see the back on that one, but considering these two cards were graded back to back, I bet it's a non serial # copy as well.

Thats funny now that the PSA 9 Cert is de-listed on PSA's pop chart yet still live on ebay.

towerymt · 12-21-2022, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rimshaqer34

Just fixed the link...apologies....

FYI, can take out the 'www.' on the short version of the link and that should work.

Like this: https://ebay.com/itm/364083493123

DragonWagon · 12-21-2022, 09:03 PM

Both cards referenced above are added to the Altered Card Database https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database

2003 Shaquille O'Neal #56 Ultra - Platinum Medallion PSA 9 cert# 68982476 is now DEACTIVATED by PSA.

2003 Shaquille O'Neal #56 Ultra - Platinum Medallion PSA 7 cert# 68982475

12-19-2022, 12:18 AM	#1
rimshaqer34 Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Indonesia Posts: 773 rimshaqer34 rimshaqer34	Probstein listed backdoored 03-04 Shaq Platinum and PSA agrees with it Just want to make an awareness, Probstein just listed this Shaquille O'neal 2003-04 Ultra Platinum PSA 9 https://www.ebay.com/itm/364083493123 And it's a non numbered one. You can see the back on the listing. PSA didn't note it in their labeling. Then Probstein also list another 2003-04 Ultra Platinum Shaq PSA 7 but it didn't have a photo of the back of the card so we won't know if it's numbered or not. https://www.ebay.com/itm/364077609645 Why is it so hard for Probstein to include both front and back photo in their listings? __________________ Lifetime SHAQ collector ebay/FB/instagram/wechat ID : rimshaqer34 Last edited by rimshaqer34; 12-19-2022 at 11:07 AM.

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12-20-2022, 10:07 PM	#10
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,507	I reached out to Nat yesterday and just noticed the PSA 9 without serial that Probstein123 is selling is now deactivated. The 7 cert is still active, so maybe that one did have a serial or still being researched? Nice catch. __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

12-19-2022, 02:52 AM	#3
Gidtheson Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 676 arenatradingcards ArenaTradingCards	they might have been yanked, cannot find them on eBay

12-19-2022, 07:06 AM	#6
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,922	Both the PSA 7 and PSA 9 were listed days ago and had bids. Then the PSA 9 was taken down suddenly and now appears to be re-listed overnight, with the back photo. If I recall right once bids have been placed you can't edit the listing and add a new photo, etc - so that's probably why the PSA 7 doesn't have the back photo added, they'd have to end it and re-list like they did with the PSA 9. They were both graded very recently in the same submission it appears, back to back based on their cert #'s - has PSA always been that way and grades backdoor'd fleers?

12-21-2022, 07:48 AM	#12
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,922	I see the PSA 7 listing (Cert # 68982475) sold at auction end for $41 on 12/19. It was never re-listed, etc. The cert does not have images so we still can't see the back on that one, but considering these two cards were graded back to back, I bet it's a non serial # copy as well. Thats funny now that the PSA 9 Cert is de-listed on PSA's pop chart yet still live on ebay.

12-21-2022, 09:03 PM	#14
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 914	Both cards referenced above are added to the Altered Card Database https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database 2003 Shaquille O'Neal #56 Ultra - Platinum Medallion PSA 9 cert# 68982476 is now DEACTIVATED by PSA. 2003 Shaquille O'Neal #56 Ultra - Platinum Medallion PSA 7 cert# 68982475