PITCHERS: Official Thread of the Hobby’s Outcast Position

eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 07:08 PM

It’s no secret that pitchers receive little love in the hobby. That’s despite the top free-agent hurlers getting paid like Fortune 500 CEOs.

Collecting pitchers is a thing, though, even if it’s more niche than, say, collecting Trout or Jeter. And threads do exist here in the Forum for individual pitchers. But let’s face it: if surefire Hall-of-Famers Scherzer, Kershaw and Verlander can’t carry a lively thread, how can we expect an up-and-comer with a few hundred strikeouts (Sandy Alcantara) to do so?

We can’t. But if we grouped them altogether, kinda like a pitching staff (BO style), then maybe—just maybe—we can have an ongoing dialogue about the stars of the mound and the great cards we’re collecting of them (or begrudgingly pulling from packs.)

Here are some highlights of my recent pickups. Now let’s see what you got! (And maybe later we can debate whether Scherzer’s 2008 Stadium Club auto is the most overlooked card of any active player.)

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towerymt · 12-15-2022, 07:21 PM

Arrived yesterday. Under $8 dlvd

Snagged this one recently for a little over $8 dollars. I briefly held a sealed jumbo box of '08 Update but decided not to rip when Khal reported condition issues (packs shift a lot), so I sold it and now I bought the card I likely wouldn't have hit had I opened the box.

I saw prices recently for a Maddux private signing and bought this instead, for less. Easy call.

Party on.

BigSlim16 · 12-15-2022, 07:25 PM

#PitchersMatterToo

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eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 07:29 PM

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#PitchersMatterToo

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Three posts, and there are already two Lodolo blacks!

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eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Arrived yesterday. Under $8 dlvd

Snagged this one recently for a little over $8 dollars. I briefly held a sealed jumbo box of '08 Update but decided not to rip when Khal reported condition issues (packs shift a lot), so I sold it and now I bought the card I likely wouldn't have hit had I opened the box.

I saw prices recently for a Maddux private signing and bought this instead, for less. Easy call.

Party on.

I like the range, from a HOFer to a superstar vet to a farmhand flier.

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cjraleigh · 12-15-2022, 07:59 PM

Outstanding topic! I've been partial to pitchers for as long as I can remember. Hugely undervalued and under appreciated! Every action sequence starts with the pitcher. When he's on, the entire game focuses on him. When he's off, the mound is the loneliness place in the entire park.

Love all the cards shown! Top quality...especially the Chrome Scherzer 9.5 for $8? Did I read that right? If so, yowza.

For active young guys, I like Josiah Gray. I know he's in purgatory with Washington and had an expectedly rough year, but he only turns 25 next week and has a lot of talent. Pitchers mature later anyway. I believe he'll blossom sooner than later.

Otherwise, a massive Kershaw fan, even though I only have a handful of his cards.

But, the centrepiece to my small collection is a Topps era run of HOF pitchers. All 40 representing a different Topps design with no duplicates and no rookies.

Look forward to seeing more!

Topps Era HOF Pitchers
https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...nt/album/21532

TBTC Baseball · 12-15-2022, 08:04 PM

awz50 · 12-15-2022, 08:05 PM

I'm pumped to watch more strider this year

eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cjraleigh

Outstanding topic! I've been partial to pitchers for as long as I can remember. Hugely undervalued and under appreciated! Every action sequence starts with the pitcher. When he's on, the entire game focuses on him. When he's off, the mound is the loneliness place in the entire park.

Love all the cards shown! Top quality...especially the Chrome Scherzer 9.5 for $8? Did I read that right? If so, yowza.

For active young guys, I like Josiah Gray. I know he's in purgatory with Washington and had an expectedly rough year, but he only turns 25 next week and has a lot of talent. Pitchers mature later anyway. I believe he'll blossom sooner than later.

Otherwise, a massive Kershaw fan, even though I only have a handful of his cards.

But, the centrepiece to my small collection is a Topps era run of HOF pitchers. All 40 representing a different Topps design with no duplicates and no rookies.

Look forward to seeing more!

Topps Era HOF Pitchers
https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...nt/album/21532

It’s a common refrain to point out that a successful hitter fails seven out of 10 times at the plate. By the same token, a pitcher who only succeeds seven out of 10 times is failing. The threshold for success is high, and yet we hobbyists don’t give proper due to those who surpass exceed it.

A single thread certainly can’t change hobby attitudes toward pitchers, but I figure it can’t hurt to bring more focus to the only players who touch the ball on every play. (Not even catchers can claim that.)

As for your cards… I despise the Dodgers. But that triple auto is, uh, not a bad piece of cardboard. Someday you’ll need a quad auto that includes Urias.

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base set · 12-15-2022, 09:25 PM

What is the 3rd Hunter Greene Chrome RC in the first post?

Mariners have had some good Pitcher RCs lately.

eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 09:32 PM

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What is the 3rd Hunter Greene Chrome RC in the first post?

Mariners have had some good Pitcher RCs lately.

That’s an orange speckle refractor of the Topps Chrome Extended SP.

I don’t know too much of the story, but apparently Topps failed to include them in regular packs, and made up for it by inserting them in Cosmic and Logofractor boxes. And they’re apparently in Hobby Lite boxes, too.

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gresh87 · 12-15-2022, 09:46 PM

Not sure if this meets your criteria, but these are both /99 and I think they’re pretty sweet!

(Nice Greenes eye4!)

eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gresh87

Not sure if this meets your criteria, but these are both /99 and I think they’re pretty sweet!

(Nice Greenes eye4!)

There is no criteria, other than this is a place to discuss pitchers and share cards of them. Mikolas is a pitcher, and those are nice cards of Mikolas. Perfect!

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bmann33 · 12-15-2022, 10:02 PM

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gresh87 · 12-15-2022, 10:40 PM

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There is no criteria, other than this is a place to discuss pitchers and share cards of them. Mikolas is a pitcher, and those are nice cards of Mikolas. Perfect!

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Black Waino (70/70

) likes to hear that! And thanks!

eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 10:43 PM

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Black Waino (70/70

) likes to hear that! And thanks!

Glad to bring a smile to Waino’s face!

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KC35 · 12-15-2022, 10:52 PM

Been collecting Greinke since I got into the hobby :

eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 10:58 PM

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Been collecting Greinke since I got into the hobby :

That’s some serious firepower. Do you have the UD Prospect Premieres auto? (I unfortunately sold mine a long, long time ago.)

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Rememberthepast · 12-15-2022, 11:11 PM

Here are some of my Tarik Skubal PC rainbows either complete or almost complete. I have several other rainbows I’m slowly working on.

Missing the Cycle /25

63BD4CCE-B0C2-4E0E-BF1C-932C48FDE134 by michael scott, on Flickr

6490A8E2-1DBB-4050-B182-E42426FCCA74 by michael scott, on Flickr

Largest rainbow undertaking I’ll ever attempt. I have 33 of 40 cards not counting the three /1’s.

756E05B5-404D-40C1-BAB8-D0C586CCCD9B by michael scott, on Flickr

CCB67347-BF04-4760-BC03-0CAE997485F6 by michael scott, on Flickr

C6DD6864-EC60-48F0-A8D4-1609E550ED7A by michael scott, on Flickr

Latest edition since above photos, FOTL /7 (missing the other two FOTL /7’s)

D6442FEB-DAE5-4C40-B1AB-63D47781B72A by michael scott, on Flickr

Nice small complete Sapphire rainbow (base, /75, /20, /15), just missing the /1

9B5E447E-4952-4D54-B683-24549E57033E by michael scott, on Flickr

KC35 · 12-15-2022, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eye4talent

That’s some serious firepower. Do you have the UD Prospect Premieres auto? (I unfortunately sold mine a long, long time ago.)

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Thanks! Yep I’ve got the 02 upper deck auto as well as both autograph cards from 2003 bowman. They’d all grade in the 6-8 range though due to rough edges.

Haigo · 12-15-2022, 11:30 PM

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Bambino22 · 12-15-2022, 11:34 PM

I got back into collecting pulling a 2005 Bowman Sterling auto relic of Verlander. Can't wait to get it back from grading.

Been thinking recently of getting more into Josiah Gray to have a Nationals guy. Haven't pulled the trigger on any pitchers though. Almost went for the super Sterling of Dustin May, but you talked me out of it because of Tommy Johns at the time.

BGeezy · 12-15-2022, 11:35 PM

It didn't take long for this thread to fill up with some nice cards!

Personally, I'm partial to pitchers. I was a pitcher when I played so other than Yordan, most of the players I end up collecting are pitchers. Fernandez, Javier, Manoah, Luzardo, Toussaint...

I'll have to post some photos later.

eye4talent · 12-15-2022, 11:48 PM

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Haigo, I’ve never been able to see your photos. I assume these are some Cristian Javier or Framber rookies?

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ObanMontecristo · 12-15-2022, 11:52 PM

Good topic- I’ve never really collected many pitchers, but with Kershaw, Verlander and Scherzer headed towards the end of their careers, I’ve been wondering if we’ll look back on 2022 as the year when the next generation of really good starting pitchers broke out.

I definitely gobbled up some more RCs this year of pitchers like Alcantara, Manoah, McClanahan, Burnes, and Cease.

12-15-2022, 07:08 PM	#1
eye4talent Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 7,922 eye4talent eye4talent	PITCHERS: Official Thread of the Hobby’s Outcast Position It’s no secret that pitchers receive little love in the hobby. That’s despite the top free-agent hurlers getting paid like Fortune 500 CEOs. Collecting pitchers is a thing, though, even if it’s more niche than, say, collecting Trout or Jeter. And threads do exist here in the Forum for individual pitchers. But let’s face it: if surefire Hall-of-Famers Scherzer, Kershaw and Verlander can’t carry a lively thread, how can we expect an up-and-comer with a few hundred strikeouts (Sandy Alcantara) to do so? We can’t. But if we grouped them altogether, kinda like a pitching staff (BO style), then maybe—just maybe—we can have an ongoing dialogue about the stars of the mound and the great cards we’re collecting of them (or begrudgingly pulling from packs.) Here are some highlights of my recent pickups. Now let’s see what you got! (And maybe later we can debate whether Scherzer’s 2008 Stadium Club auto is the most overlooked card of any active player.) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by eye4talent; 01-01-2023 at 11:30 AM.

12-15-2022, 07:59 PM	#6
cjraleigh Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 1,013 cjraleigh	Outstanding topic! I've been partial to pitchers for as long as I can remember. Hugely undervalued and under appreciated! Every action sequence starts with the pitcher. When he's on, the entire game focuses on him. When he's off, the mound is the loneliness place in the entire park. Love all the cards shown! Top quality...especially the Chrome Scherzer 9.5 for $8? Did I read that right? If so, yowza. For active young guys, I like Josiah Gray. I know he's in purgatory with Washington and had an expectedly rough year, but he only turns 25 next week and has a lot of talent. Pitchers mature later anyway. I believe he'll blossom sooner than later. Otherwise, a massive Kershaw fan, even though I only have a handful of his cards. But, the centrepiece to my small collection is a Topps era run of HOF pitchers. All 40 representing a different Topps design with no duplicates and no rookies. Look forward to seeing more! Topps Era HOF Pitchers https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...nt/album/21532 Last edited by cjraleigh; 01-13-2023 at 11:11 AM.

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12-15-2022, 11:11 PM	#19
Rememberthepast Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: MI Posts: 5,011 Wannabeoldschool	Here are some of my Tarik Skubal PC rainbows either complete or almost complete. I have several other rainbows I’m slowly working on. Missing the Cycle /25 63BD4CCE-B0C2-4E0E-BF1C-932C48FDE134 by michael scott, on Flickr 6490A8E2-1DBB-4050-B182-E42426FCCA74 by michael scott, on Flickr Largest rainbow undertaking I’ll ever attempt. I have 33 of 40 cards not counting the three /1’s. 756E05B5-404D-40C1-BAB8-D0C586CCCD9B by michael scott, on Flickr CCB67347-BF04-4760-BC03-0CAE997485F6 by michael scott, on Flickr C6DD6864-EC60-48F0-A8D4-1609E550ED7A by michael scott, on Flickr Latest edition since above photos, FOTL /7 (missing the other two FOTL /7’s) D6442FEB-DAE5-4C40-B1AB-63D47781B72A by michael scott, on Flickr Nice small complete Sapphire rainbow (base, /75, /20, /15), just missing the /1 9B5E447E-4952-4D54-B683-24549E57033E by michael scott, on Flickr __________________ -PC Allen & Ginter Unripped Detroit Tigers & Presidents. -PC Tarik Skubal of the Detroit Tigers. -PC Corey Davis in both College and Pro Uniform. Last edited by Rememberthepast; 12-15-2022 at 11:39 PM.

12-15-2022, 07:21 PM	#2
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,773	Arrived yesterday. Under $8 dlvd Snagged this one recently for a little over $8 dollars. I briefly held a sealed jumbo box of '08 Update but decided not to rip when Khal reported condition issues (packs shift a lot), so I sold it and now I bought the card I likely wouldn't have hit had I opened the box. I saw prices recently for a Maddux private signing and bought this instead, for less. Easy call. Party on.

12-15-2022, 07:25 PM	#3
BigSlim16 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 4,332	#PitchersMatterToo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-15-2022, 09:25 PM	#10
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,473	What is the 3rd Hunter Greene Chrome RC in the first post? Mariners have had some good Pitcher RCs lately.

12-15-2022, 09:46 PM	#12
gresh87 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 984 greshcollects	Not sure if this meets your criteria, but these are both /99 and I think they’re pretty sweet! (Nice Greenes eye4!)

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KC35 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,489 35kc	Been collecting Greinke since I got into the hobby :

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Haigo Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Boston Posts: 1,694 la32_pats_87	[IMG]Untitled by Haig Avakian, on Flickr[/IMG] [IMG]Untitled by Haig Avakian, on Flickr[/IMG] [IMG]Untitled by Haig Avakian, on Flickr[/IMG] [IMG]Untitled by Haig Avakian, on Flickr[/IMG]

12-15-2022, 11:34 PM	#22
Bambino22 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,567	I got back into collecting pulling a 2005 Bowman Sterling auto relic of Verlander. Can't wait to get it back from grading. Been thinking recently of getting more into Josiah Gray to have a Nationals guy. Haven't pulled the trigger on any pitchers though. Almost went for the super Sterling of Dustin May, but you talked me out of it because of Tommy Johns at the time. __________________ I collect Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, and Marco Luciano. Looking for Yordan Alvarez /5 2020 Sterling Auto.

12-15-2022, 11:35 PM	#23
BGeezy Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,633	It didn't take long for this thread to fill up with some nice cards! Personally, I'm partial to pitchers. I was a pitcher when I played so other than Yordan, most of the players I end up collecting are pitchers. Fernandez, Javier, Manoah, Luzardo, Toussaint... I'll have to post some photos later.

12-15-2022, 11:52 PM	#25
ObanMontecristo Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Collegeville PA Posts: 1,865	Good topic- I’ve never really collected many pitchers, but with Kershaw, Verlander and Scherzer headed towards the end of their careers, I’ve been wondering if we’ll look back on 2022 as the year when the next generation of really good starting pitchers broke out. I definitely gobbled up some more RCs this year of pitchers like Alcantara, Manoah, McClanahan, Burnes, and Cease.