Do you feel sorry for Jimmy Clausen PC collectors? Cam Newton #1 pick to Carolina!

robroy77 · 04-26-2011, 01:35 AM

With the draft being 3 days away, and almost all mock have the Panthers selecting Cam Newton with the first pick. You have to feel the pain that all Clausen PC collectors are gonna feel this week. I understand that as fans we latch on to certain players to collect. Most of us collect players that are stars or superstars where there cards keep a steady value. Even the collectors that have massive collections of players like Taylor Price, they wont be in the hole to terrible if he flames out. The problem with Clausen collecting is that his cards were going for star prices and only 1 year later his cards could go down drastically in value. Sucks for them, but I do feel there pain!

1Roogy · 04-26-2011, 01:47 AM

Now is a good time to collect Clausen. Hopefully he gets traded somewhere that he'll get a chance. I still think Clausen will be a good QB in the NFL. In college, he struggled his first year and as he got more comfortable, he was very good in just a couple years.

He'll get his shot. Carolina is retarded though for taking Newton. That is now what I refer to as VALUE when you just took Clausen last year in the 2nd.

And that folks is why Carolina is picking #1...stupid organization.

mikeyp · 04-26-2011, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 1Roogy

Now is a good time to collect Clausen. Hopefully he gets traded somewhere that he'll get a chance. I still think Clausen will be a good QB in the NFL. In college, he struggled his first year and as he got more comfortable, he was very good in just a couple years.

He'll get his shot. Carolina is retarded though for taking Newton. That is now what I refer to as VALUE when you just took Clausen last year in the 2nd.

And that folks is why Carolina is picking #1...stupid organization.

It's easy for you to say how stupid it is and how dumb they are until you actually have to make a decision like that. It would be hard for anyone to pass on a guy like Cam Newton with the 1st pick because he has butt loads of potential. I do agree that it is very hard to determine how good that he is going to be but I don't blame them for wanting to take a shot on him. In todays game you have to have a franchise qb if you want to be successful.

Rams_crazy · 04-26-2011, 07:18 AM

What potential does Newton have? The type of QB that he is has never worked in the NFL. Clausen has much more upside. Newton is not ready for the NFL. Soon we are going to be putting him in the same catagory as Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch.

Care4Card · 04-26-2011, 07:28 AM

If they can't unload Clausen before the draft, Carolina should draft a defensive force on the line.

Cam is not a 'can't pass' talent even if he can turn it alright in the pros.

thepistonsfan · 04-26-2011, 07:37 AM

I feel even worse for the morons who spent $$$ on Matt Moore.

asujbl · 04-26-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams_crazy

What potential does Newton have? The type of QB that he is has never worked in the NFL. Clausen has much more upside. Newton is not ready for the NFL. Soon we are going to be putting him in the same catagory as Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch.

Feel free to explain what "the type of QB he is" means?

achilles01987 · 04-26-2011, 08:39 AM

Hmm, gee, a spread offense QB, would rather run first, not very accurate, inexperienced, off the field/candor/integrity issues! He couldn't even verbalize a play call for Gruden! Whoever picks him will be sorry! I say Clausen has more upside!

ThisFrequency · 04-26-2011, 08:46 AM

Cam Newton collectors are who I'm already feeling sorry for, that guy is gonna be a huge bust.

garpike · 04-26-2011, 08:46 AM

TONY PIKE has upside as well!!! PLEASE for the love of everything holy, CAROLINA...PLEASE DRAFT Marcell Dareus !!! PLEASE!!!

tehchamp · 04-26-2011, 08:48 AM

Newton has the potential to be incredibly good, but will he reach that?
Clausen I think will at best become a Chad Henne. Solid, but not great.

jp98 · 04-26-2011, 08:50 AM

I collected Carolina Rookies since 07, and I will not collect Cam Newton AT ALL. Please do something smart for once and don't pick Newton.

fungi2510 · 04-26-2011, 08:54 AM

I think this issue is still racial at this point, if not racial at least social status. Newton comes in with issues, but the least of them are his ability to play the position. Claussen has not shown anything. Not at Notre Dame, not at Carolina. He is a huge waste of talent.

jiggidy · 04-26-2011, 09:05 AM

Cam Newton = JaMarcus Russell

Razorsharp79 · 04-26-2011, 09:08 AM

Physically Newton is a #1 pick, mentally he is a 6th rounder. He could not even name one play in his interview with Gruden they ran at Auburn, he just said well its simplistic and we look at a board with numbers on it to call the play so we all stay in sync or something to that effect. Sorry, but you failed the mental test Newton. Love the talent, but the brains are not there.

Nothing racial about it, newton has the talent, and zero for brains, his social status or skin color have zero to do with it for me personally.

garpike · 04-26-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jiggidy

Cam Newton = JaMarcus Russell

Amen!! I agree!! PLEASE CAROLINA DON'T DRAFT HIM!!! Let the Bills or Bungels deal with his crap!!!

Rams_crazy · 04-26-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fungi2510

I think this issue is still racial at this point, if not racial at least social status. Newton comes in with issues, but the least of them are his ability to play the position. Claussen has not shown anything. Not at Notre Dame, not at Carolina. He is a huge waste of talent.

There is no way this is racial. The guy is not a good QB. The learning curve is going to be too great. He is a run first QB and that does not work. How many rings does Vick have?

SethMurphy · 04-26-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fungi2510

I think this issue is still racial at this point, if not racial at least social status. Newton comes in with issues, but the least of them are his ability to play the position. Claussen has not shown anything. Not at Notre Dame, not at Carolina. He is a huge waste of talent.

in no way is this racial..... are white people saying Ryan Mallett would be number one but racists are using his character issues against him....

both Newton and Mallett are MONSTER upside type players, huge potential, both have character issues as well. But Newton is still going to be picked in the top-5 and Mallett is going to be picked probably in the second round. So if anything, isn't this reverse racism...

I am so sick of ignorant fools playing the race card anytime an African-American athlete is brought down, the guy is a one-year wonder with a horrible track record, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, how'd those quick-hit wonders turn out.... oh yeah, how did Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, JP Losman turn out....

thepistonsfan · 04-26-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jiggidy

Cam Newton = JaMarcus Russell

No way he could possibly be that big of a failure. I agree with the opinion that he won't be an NFL superstar, but I think Cam could be a quality backup. Other than Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Walrus is the biggest bust in NFL history.

bkovach06 · 04-26-2011, 09:43 AM

if carolina was smart theyd draft aj green and help clausen out, smith is good but hes old and small, green is a deep threat, i HOPE he slips to the browns, but unlikely, bungholes will take him at 4

jiggidy · 04-26-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thepistonsfan

No way he could possibly be that big of a failure. I agree with the opinion that he won't be an NFL superstar, but I think Cam could be a quality backup. Other than Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Walrus is the biggest bust in NFL history.

There is a way he could be that big of a bust. I made the comparison just because they are/will be both #1 picks.

I lump Cam Newton/Tim Tebow all in the same category. They will be in the spotlight for a few years then fade to the roll of warming up the bench.

Idol · 04-26-2011, 09:50 AM

What is all this trash talk about Cam Newton. Nobody should ever compare Newton to Russell. They are (2) completely different QB's. I guess everybody wants to throw his past season stats out the door. The guy threw for 30 touchdowns & rushed for 20 touchdowns and even caught one with both feet in! I mean the guy is a freak of talent and honestly he's a bigger version of Michael Vick. We were all sucked in what Vick did this past season. I don't see why Newton with the right coaching and the given the talented group of role players..he will be good QB. Give Newton a year to sit and learn and let him play.

budmademewizer · 04-26-2011, 09:50 AM

Looks like a good time for Clausen fans to stock up.After Cam flames out maybe Jimmy can come in and do something.A lot of great QBs played better after some bench time.Who knows he could be another Steve Young or Rich Gannon.

Casebreaker · 04-26-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by achilles01987

Hmm, gee, a spread offense QB, would rather run first, not very accurate, inexperienced, off the field/candor/integrity issues! He couldn't even verbalize a play call for Gruden! Whoever picks him will be sorry! I say Clausen has more upside!

saw this on gruden camp, this is what would scare me as a team. Could of at least said something or make it up. he is going to have a rough rookie season if the lockout holds teams without training camp

Zacky1053 · 04-26-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Casebreaker

saw this on gruden camp, this is what would scare me as a team. Could of at least said something or make it up. he is going to have a rough rookie season if the lockout holds teams without training camp

If he can't even call a play what about making changes at the line of scrimmage?

Peyton Manning makes more calls at the line than in the huddle I think.

But no fear, QB's get to have the plays on their wrist. Problem solved.

04-26-2011, 07:28 AM	#5
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04-26-2011, 08:54 AM	#13
fungi2510 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10,047 mkeil1980 fungi2510	I think this issue is still racial at this point, if not racial at least social status. Newton comes in with issues, but the least of them are his ability to play the position. Claussen has not shown anything. Not at Notre Dame, not at Carolina. He is a huge waste of talent. __________________ Check Out My Cards ID = fungi2510 Check me out on Sport Lots. http://www.sportlots.com/inven/invenbin/dealerpage.tpl?dealer=dmkeil02

04-26-2011, 01:35 AM	#1
robroy77 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 114	Do you feel sorry for Jimmy Clausen PC collectors? Cam Newton #1 pick to Carolina! With the draft being 3 days away, and almost all mock have the Panthers selecting Cam Newton with the first pick. You have to feel the pain that all Clausen PC collectors are gonna feel this week. I understand that as fans we latch on to certain players to collect. Most of us collect players that are stars or superstars where there cards keep a steady value. Even the collectors that have massive collections of players like Taylor Price, they wont be in the hole to terrible if he flames out. The problem with Clausen collecting is that his cards were going for star prices and only 1 year later his cards could go down drastically in value. Sucks for them, but I do feel there pain!

04-26-2011, 01:47 AM	#2
1Roogy Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 283 itsroogy	Now is a good time to collect Clausen. Hopefully he gets traded somewhere that he'll get a chance. I still think Clausen will be a good QB in the NFL. In college, he struggled his first year and as he got more comfortable, he was very good in just a couple years. He'll get his shot. Carolina is retarded though for taking Newton. That is now what I refer to as VALUE when you just took Clausen last year in the 2nd. And that folks is why Carolina is picking #1...stupid organization.

04-26-2011, 07:18 AM	#4
Rams_crazy Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 803 Soli Deo Gloria	What potential does Newton have? The type of QB that he is has never worked in the NFL. Clausen has much more upside. Newton is not ready for the NFL. Soon we are going to be putting him in the same catagory as Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch.

04-26-2011, 08:46 AM	#9
ThisFrequency Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 186	Cam Newton collectors are who I'm already feeling sorry for, that guy is gonna be a huge bust.

04-26-2011, 08:48 AM	#11
tehchamp Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stafford, TX Posts: 2,048 tehchamp	Newton has the potential to be incredibly good, but will he reach that? Clausen I think will at best become a Chad Henne. Solid, but not great.

04-26-2011, 08:50 AM	#12
jp98 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 10,709	I collected Carolina Rookies since 07, and I will not collect Cam Newton AT ALL. Please do something smart for once and don't pick Newton.

04-26-2011, 09:05 AM	#14
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04-26-2011, 09:08 AM	#15
Razorsharp79 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SC Posts: 9,367 pristine_gems	Physically Newton is a #1 pick, mentally he is a 6th rounder. He could not even name one play in his interview with Gruden they ran at Auburn, he just said well its simplistic and we look at a board with numbers on it to call the play so we all stay in sync or something to that effect. Sorry, but you failed the mental test Newton. Love the talent, but the brains are not there. Nothing racial about it, newton has the talent, and zero for brains, his social status or skin color have zero to do with it for me personally.

04-26-2011, 09:43 AM	#20
bkovach06 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 5,028	if carolina was smart theyd draft aj green and help clausen out, smith is good but hes old and small, green is a deep threat, i HOPE he slips to the browns, but unlikely, bungholes will take him at 4

04-26-2011, 09:50 AM	#22
Idol Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 2,729 Rookiesonly99	What is all this trash talk about Cam Newton. Nobody should ever compare Newton to Russell. They are (2) completely different QB's. I guess everybody wants to throw his past season stats out the door. The guy threw for 30 touchdowns & rushed for 20 touchdowns and even caught one with both feet in! I mean the guy is a freak of talent and honestly he's a bigger version of Michael Vick. We were all sucked in what Vick did this past season. I don't see why Newton with the right coaching and the given the talented group of role players..he will be good QB. Give Newton a year to sit and learn and let him play. __________________ Follow me on Instagram “rookiesonly99”

04-26-2011, 09:50 AM	#23
budmademewizer Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crossett,Arkansas Posts: 11	Looks like a good time for Clausen fans to stock up.After Cam flames out maybe Jimmy can come in and do something.A lot of great QBs played better after some bench time.Who knows he could be another Steve Young or Rich Gannon.