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Just picked this up for what I feel is cheap at $150. Would love to know more about the insert. They’re pretty rare so was looking to see if anyone knows exactly how rare. I know there are only 3 parallels; silver, green, gold. Would love to know more about them if anyone has any input. Drop some pics if you got them. Thanks.
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Dang I’m looking for the MVP kobe silver. Doesn’t pop up for sale often
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nice insert. can't even remember the 20-21
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I realize most folks aren't grading these but the fact that there are only 28 2012 MVP greens graded on PSA pop report over the whole 25 card set is pretty telling. I believe they are more rare than people think.
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There are so many low population insert sets from Panini from 2012 to 2014. I looked for two years before I found this Global Icon for my PC. PSA has graded exactly one of these from the entire set and that is a Joel Embiid with a RC logo. These were a case hit and there are 100 in the set.
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Last edited by Cardwax; 05-10-2022 at 01:50 PM. |
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Thanks everyone for the input! |
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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=446293 Id say theres likely about 100 greens for the base. No guess from me on the inserts.
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Love this set, and have the Rose green and silver myself! Super SP’d and a great insert. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The 13/14 Blue Guard Duty are super scarce. Not Light Blue, Blue from Wal Mart.
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I know there are people who dont agree with me on this, but look throughout releases and check out if retail parallels are ever in high demand when it comes to pricing. Silvers outsell green all day even when silvers are more plentiful. Prices are reales are greatly affected by demand just as much as rarity is. |
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The silvers are more in demand than the greens. The are more desirable hence why silvers outsell their counterpart green even with greens being rarer. Go check it out.. 2012 Prizm Silver Lebron, Kobe, Curry..etc vs 2012 Prizm Green Lebron, Kobe, Curry.. etc. As I previously stated, it has to do with Hobby vs Retail. You can disagree, I have no issues but the notion holds true for retail only cards vs hobby cards. Maybe because the wax prices are different or retail allocations are only available in certain areas, whatever the case is, its generally true. Look at contenders football and the hobby rc ticket autos vs the retail versions of the rookie ticket autos jerseys... huge difference. I know enough about 2012 Prizm because I widely collected all the parallels early. I put almost 2 full sets of silvers together and sold off countless greens and golds. I sold both these cards I sold this card for 3k Untitled by Jay M, on FlickrI sold this card months earlier for 14.5k Untitled by Jay M, on FlickrI can tell you first hand silvers sells for more than greens all day... every day. Rarity plays no part in desire when the pool of demand is greater for one more than the other. |
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Why is anyone comparing silvers to any other color? It's obvious what will have the most demand. Even today, the RC to have is the Prizm Silver. Way too much history behind it for a random color parallel to see any demand that matches. Don't matter if its green, yellow, red, etc. In 2012, silvers were released in Hobby and greens released in Retail. Though they could have been produced in equal numbers, silvers are simply more in demand overall.
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The consistency in the parallels is important for hobby collectors. My point right from the get go has been that while rarity plays a apart in the pricing of cards, it doesnt not pay the largest role in some cases. Prizm is an example of where even if silvers are not as rare as greens, still outsell them. They are just more desirable. That was the whole point. I also want to point out that silvers were in retail packs as well. Just greens were retail exclusive and golds were hobby exclusive back in 2012 and im pretty sure for all years. Retail only parallels just dont fare well vs hobby ones. |
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I think when you look at pop reports and just what’s out there for sale in general, greens are likely rarer than silvers, but the market clearly prices silver a lot higher. I think as the years go by that has the possibility of changing. All it takes are a few big name collectors to start pushing greens. Also, I’m pretty confident silvers we’re not available in retail. You could only pull greens out of retail boxes in 2012. I cracked several retail boxes over the years to build sets and have never seen a silver.
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