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Old 05-08-2022, 06:34 PM   #1
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Default 2012 Prizm Most Valuable Players Inserts

Just picked this up for what I feel is cheap at $150. Would love to know more about the insert. They’re pretty rare so was looking to see if anyone knows exactly how rare. I know there are only 3 parallels; silver, green, gold. Would love to know more about them if anyone has any input. Drop some pics if you got them. Thanks.

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Old 05-08-2022, 06:43 PM   #2
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I dont know the rarity, but from the gold, green and silver, the silver is the best looking one. It just pops!!

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Old 05-08-2022, 08:10 PM   #3
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I dont know the rarity, but from the gold, green and silver, the silver is the best looking one. It just pops!!

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Dang I’m looking for the MVP kobe silver. Doesn’t pop up for sale often
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Old 05-08-2022, 09:56 PM   #4
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I've heard that there are only 150 of each green parallel in the base set and the inserts but cannot verify "officially". My picture of this does nothing exciting here, but it's beautiful under the right light!
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nice insert. can't even remember the 20-21
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Old 05-08-2022, 11:12 PM   #6
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Was always a fan of the set. Not sure on the actual print run but the greens always seemed relatively scarce.

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Old 05-09-2022, 04:44 PM   #7
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I realize most folks aren't grading these but the fact that there are only 28 2012 MVP greens graded on PSA pop report over the whole 25 card set is pretty telling. I believe they are more rare than people think.
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Old 05-09-2022, 04:59 PM   #8
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There are so many low population insert sets from Panini from 2012 to 2014. I looked for two years before I found this Global Icon for my PC. PSA has graded exactly one of these from the entire set and that is a Joel Embiid with a RC logo. These were a case hit and there are 100 in the set.

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Old 05-10-2022, 01:46 PM   #9
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I dont know the rarity, but from the gold, green and silver, the silver is the best looking one. It just pops!!
Sure does man! There are never any silver and green up for sale that’s why I grabbed it especially since it’s was so cheap and D Rose is a big part of my PC. And pics don’t do it justice it’s beyond beautiful. Just got it in today! It’s a pop 2, none higher or lower.


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There are so many low population insert sets from Panini from 2012 to 2014. I looked for two years before I found this Global Icon for my PC. PSA has graded exactly one of these from the entire set and that is a Joel Embiid with a RC logo. These were a case hit and there are 100 in the set.
100% agree. 2013 Select also has some hella rare and very nice inserts. 2012 Prizm and 2013 select are two of my favorites to collect. They also are two of the hardest to find.

Thanks everyone for the input!
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Old 05-10-2022, 02:29 PM   #11
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I've heard that there are only 150 of each green parallel in the base set and the inserts but cannot verify "officially". My picture of this does nothing exciting here, but it's beautiful under the right light!
Heres some calculations from many years ago.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=446293

Id say theres likely about 100 greens for the base. No guess from me on the inserts.
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Just picked this up for what I feel is cheap at $150. Would love to know more about the insert. They’re pretty rare so was looking to see if anyone knows exactly how rare. I know there are only 3 parallels; silver, green, gold. Would love to know more about them if anyone has any input. Drop some pics if you got them. Thanks.


Love this set, and have the Rose green and silver myself! Super SP’d and a great insert.


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Heres some calculations from many years ago.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=446293

Id say theres likely about 100 greens for the base. No guess from me on the inserts.
Thanks for this!
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Old 05-10-2022, 07:11 PM   #14
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The 13/14 Blue Guard Duty are super scarce. Not Light Blue, Blue from Wal Mart.
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The 13/14 Blue Guard Duty are super scarce. Not Light Blue, Blue from Wal Mart.
You the think so? I’ve seen plenty. But I search for that year a lot in prizm and select.
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You the think so? I’ve seen plenty. But I search for that year a lot in prizm and select.
The reason why 2012 greens generally never command high $$ is because they are a retail only card. Most retail only never do as well as hobby inserted cards.

I know there are people who dont agree with me on this, but look throughout releases and check out if retail parallels are ever in high demand when it comes to pricing. Silvers outsell green all day even when silvers are more plentiful. Prices are reales are greatly affected by demand just as much as rarity is.
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The reason why 2012 greens generally never command high $$ is because they are a retail only card. Most retail only never do as well as hobby inserted cards.

I know there are people who dont agree with me on this, but look throughout releases and check out if retail parallels are ever in high demand when it comes to pricing. Silvers outsell green all day even when silvers are more plentiful. Prices are reales are greatly affected by demand just as much as rarity is.
What are you talking about? I think the people in this post have proven that the green MVP insert is in fact very rare. But you responded to my reply about the guard duty set? So is that what you’re talking about? As far as the MVP set, the greens are so rare, I don’t think anyone gives 2 shits if they came from retail packs 10 years later. And the green cards in this mvp set do command high money. Again maybe you’re talking about the guard duty set?
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The reason why 2012 greens generally never command high $$ is because they are a retail only card. Most retail only never do as well as hobby inserted cards.

I know there are people who dont agree with me on this, but look throughout releases and check out if retail parallels are ever in high demand when it comes to pricing. Silvers outsell green all day even when silvers are more plentiful. Prices are reales are greatly affected by demand just as much as rarity is.
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What are you talking about? I think the people in this post have proven that the green MVP insert is in fact very rare. But you responded to my reply about the guard duty set? So is that what you’re talking about? As far as the MVP set, the greens are so rare, I don’t think anyone gives 2 shits if they came from retail packs 10 years later. And the green cards in this mvp set do command high money. Again maybe you’re talking about the guard duty set?
Are the greens more desirable than the silver? Thats what the other poster may be alluding to. Hobby vs Retail is Silver vs Green.
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Silver is still more desirable. Green is simply not popular except for color match
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What are you talking about? I think the people in this post have proven that the green MVP insert is in fact very rare. But you responded to my reply about the guard duty set? So is that what you’re talking about? As far as the MVP set, the greens are so rare, I don’t think anyone gives 2 shits if they came from retail packs 10 years later. And the green cards in this mvp set do command high money. Again maybe you’re talking about the guard duty set?
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The truth hurts sometimes. Get over yourselves.

The silvers are more in demand than the greens. The are more desirable hence why silvers outsell their counterpart green even with greens being rarer. Go check it out..

2012 Prizm Silver Lebron, Kobe, Curry..etc
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2012 Prizm Green Lebron, Kobe, Curry.. etc.

As I previously stated, it has to do with Hobby vs Retail. You can disagree, I have no issues but the notion holds true for retail only cards vs hobby cards. Maybe because the wax prices are different or retail allocations are only available in certain areas, whatever the case is, its generally true. Look at contenders football and the hobby rc ticket autos vs the retail versions of the rookie ticket autos jerseys... huge difference.

I know enough about 2012 Prizm because I widely collected all the parallels early. I put almost 2 full sets of silvers together and sold off countless greens and golds.

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I sold this card for 3k
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I sold this card months earlier for 14.5k
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I can tell you first hand silvers sells for more than greens all day... every day. Rarity plays no part in desire when the pool of demand is greater for one more than the other.
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Why is anyone comparing silvers to any other color? It's obvious what will have the most demand. Even today, the RC to have is the Prizm Silver. Way too much history behind it for a random color parallel to see any demand that matches. Don't matter if its green, yellow, red, etc. In 2012, silvers were released in Hobby and greens released in Retail. Though they could have been produced in equal numbers, silvers are simply more in demand overall.
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Why is anyone comparing silvers to any other color? It's obvious what will have the most demand. Even today, the RC to have is the Prizm Silver. Way too much history behind it for a random color parallel to see any demand that matches. Don't matter if its green, yellow, red, etc. In 2012, silvers were released in Hobby and greens released in Retail. Though they could have been produced in equal numbers, silvers are simply more in demand overall.
Silver, Greens and golds have all been main stays since the release of the prizm line. So they can be talked about in the same conversations. All the other parallels came later and weren't not always available every year hence why they aren't as widely collected. They may still sell well and get collected well (blue prizm). Its just that they haven't been consistent throughout every year of the brand.

The consistency in the parallels is important for hobby collectors. My point right from the get go has been that while rarity plays a apart in the pricing of cards, it doesnt not pay the largest role in some cases. Prizm is an example of where even if silvers are not as rare as greens, still outsell them. They are just more desirable. That was the whole point. I also want to point out that silvers were in retail packs as well. Just greens were retail exclusive and golds were hobby exclusive back in 2012 and im pretty sure for all years.

Retail only parallels just dont fare well vs hobby ones.
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Prizm is an example of where even if silvers are not as rare as greens, still outsell them. They are just more desirable. That was the whole point. I also want to point out that silvers were in retail packs as well.
I think when you look at pop reports and just what’s out there for sale in general, greens are likely rarer than silvers, but the market clearly prices silver a lot higher. I think as the years go by that has the possibility of changing. All it takes are a few big name collectors to start pushing greens. Also, I’m pretty confident silvers we’re not available in retail. You could only pull greens out of retail boxes in 2012. I cracked several retail boxes over the years to build sets and have never seen a silver.
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I think when you look at pop reports and just what’s out there for sale in general, greens are likely rarer than silvers, but the market clearly prices silver a lot higher. I think as the years go by that has the possibility of changing. All it takes are a few big name collectors to start pushing greens. Also, I’m pretty confident silvers we’re not available in retail. You could only pull greens out of retail boxes in 2012. I cracked several retail boxes over the years to build sets and have never seen a silver.
Ive heard of silver prizm autos being in retail but not the base silvers. Im not sure about silver inserts.
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