A Chris 'Point God' Paul thread

[GOATcards]

So I have this card in a PSA 9, flipperboi it or clectrboi it?

[Phxcoyotes85]

When’s the last time he’s had an auto packed out? Been several years right?

[kingofsnake]

Originally Posted by Phxcoyotes85

When’s the last time he’s had an auto packed out? Been several years right?

On card? Looks like 2018-19.

[GOATcards]

Supposing the Suns pull it off this year (the most important series of the year is likely to be PHO-GSW which would basically decide the champion against BOS, MIL, MIA or any other team from the East, am I wrong? Jay-Jay and Marcus Smart can take out CP3, Devin and Deandre?), suppose CP3 gets a championship ring, will his ranking in the All-Time Greatest Players list move into like the top 20 or is he basically more of a top 25-30 player?

[montej1695]

Even if he wins a ring he doesnt break the Top 20.

Too many people have tunnel vision on stats... there is nothing quantifiable about him making EVERY team he plays for better... look at the before/after of the teams that hes played for...

NOH
Sub .500 team > 56Ws within 2 years of him joining team, leaves in 2011, in 2012 they have the 1st pick
LAC
30 W team with Blake in his 1st 2 years, CP3 joins and they make their 1st playoff since 2005, 5 straight 50+ W seasons (Franchise record 57 Ws), he gets traded to HOU and the Clips miss the playoffs
HOU Already had Harden and was a great spot for him to go to but he takes them from a 50+ W team to 65, they trade him for Westbrick bc he was such a better player right??? nope... team isnt any better and they completely tear down that team... 20 W team last two years???
OKC In a year that the team was in complete rebuild mode, trading PG13 and Westbrick, he leads a team to the playoffs that was projected to be one of the worst in the western conference
PHO Another good spot, not in that they had a MVP but they had young talented players... all he does is elevate another team to their franchise best record, and potential NBA champion...

[montej1695]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

So I have this card in a PSA 9, flipperboi it or clectrboi it?

Crack and resub until you get a 10... lol

[k13]

Originally Posted by montej1695

Even if he wins a ring he doesnt break the Top 20.

Too many people have tunnel vision on stats... there is nothing quantifiable about him making EVERY team he plays for better... look at the before/after of the teams that hes played for...

Rank Player VORP
1. LeBron James 142.60
2. Michael Jordan* 116.05
3. John Stockton* 106.53
4. Karl Malone* 98.96
5. Kevin Garnett* 96.86
6. Chris Paul 93.68


Rank Player WS/48
1. Michael Jordan* .2505
2. David Robinson* .2502
3. Wilt Chamberlain* .2480
4. Chris Paul .2393

Rank Player WS
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 273.41
2. LeBron James 249.52
3. Wilt Chamberlain* 247.26
4. Karl Malone* 234.63
5. Michael Jordan* 214.02
6. John Stockton* 207.70
7. Tim Duncan* 206.38
8. Dirk Nowitzki 206.34
9. Chris Paul 198.90


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 27.34
3. Nikola Jokić 27.09
4. Anthony Davis 26.89
5. Shaquille O'Neal* 26.43
6. David Robinson* 26.18
7. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.16
8. Bob Pettit* 25.45
9. Kevin Durant 25.26
10. Neil Johnston* 24.86
11. Karl-Anthony Towns 24.75
12. Chris Paul 24.65

Rank Player OWS
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 178.92
2. LeBron James 173.93
3. Wilt Chamberlain* 153.34
4. Oscar Robertson* 151.99
5. Michael Jordan* 149.88
6. Chris Paul 144.85


Rank Player OBPM
1. Michael Jordan* 7.17
2. LeBron James 7.06
3. Nikola Jokić 6.45
4. Stephen Curry 6.13
5. Kevin Durant 6.05
6. Magic Johnson* 5.93
7. James Harden 5.84
8. Damian Lillard 5.52
9. Charles Barkley* 5.36
10. Larry Bird* 5.12
11. Chris Paul 5.10

Playoffs


Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan* 28.60
2. George Mikan* 28.51
3. LeBron James 28.24
4. Nikola Jokić 28.00
5. Shaquille O'Neal* 26.13
6. Giannis Antetokounmpo 25.93
7. Hakeem Olajuwon* 25.69
8. Kevin Durant 24.30
9. Tim Duncan* 24.28
10. Kawhi Leonard 24.20
11. Charles Barkley* 24.18
12. Chris Paul 23.94

Yup nothing quantifiable. Looks like quantifying puts him in the Top 10 easily.

[montej1695]

Originally Posted by k13

Yup nothing quantifiable. Looks like quantifying puts him in the Top 10 easily.

While I love seeing his name on those lists, I have no idea what those acronyms stand for or measure... there's a good chance that most people do not either...

There is NO bigger Chris Paul fan on this forum than myself but I just dont see how you could place him in top 20.

I see Larry Bird's name once on all of your lists, is Chris Paul better than Bird?

I'm not trying to argue a point that I would generally support, so I'll leave it at that.

[2010GBPackers]

CP3 is great, but his career reminds me of the phrase, "if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?" In Paul's case, if he wins a championship, but no one in the hobby cares, does it matter?

I'm not trying to come at the guy, but I think he'll be looked at exactly the same by most everyone whether or not he ever wins a championship. There's not much he can do either way to improve or wreck his narrative as a player.

[bmf]

CP3 - 33 points, 14 for 14 last night in series clincher. NBA record.

I was really hoping for more when I opened this thread. sigh.

[kaisersoze]

cp3 easily the best pg drafted from the 2005 draft

[montej1695]

Originally Posted by bmf

CP3 - 33 points, 14 for 14 last night in series clincher. NBA record.

I was really hoping for more when I opened this thread. sigh.

Thats no big deal... 1st time in NBA history... lol

I'll give you a good stat:

He has averaged 18 Pts. 9 Asts, 2 Stls 6X

NO other player in NBA history has done that more than 3X, and in none of those years did the player commit fewer than 3TO per game, which CP3 did in every one of his seasons.

[bmf]

Originally Posted by montej1695

Thats no big deal... 1st time in NBA history... lol

I'll give you a good stat:

He has averaged 18 Pts. 9 Asts, 2 Stls 6X

NO other player in NBA history has done that more than 3X, and in none of those years did the player commit fewer than 3TO per game, which CP3 did in every one of his seasons.

You missed the point. I listed his most recent accolade (from just last night), which one would have thought inspired a new thread on him. Never suggested it was his most important accomplishment.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by bmf

You missed the point. I listed his most recent accolade (from just last night), which one would have thought inspired a new thread on him. Never suggested it was his most important accomplishment.

mere coincidence that this thread was started the same night that he went 14/14 to close out a series

[k13]

Lebron ultimate 100x Lebron Chrome rc psa 9
Chris Paul Ultimate 10x Paul Chrome rc psa 9

[CurryOverLeBron]

Chris Paul is a chump. He needs Curry in order to go all the way. We all know him and Durant ain't gonna win no future championship unless they land on the Warriors. The Warriors really are not any good either. That Curry guy surely makes them look all too good.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by CurryOverLeBron

Chris Paul is a chump. He needs Curry in order to go all the way. We all know him and Durant ain't gonna win no future championship unless they land on the Warriors. The Warriors really are not any good either. That Curry guy surely makes them look all too good.

What is your purpose here? To be really stupid and annoying? We have plenty of people for that already.


I've always liked CP3 but own nothing of him other than this beauty (which absolutely stank after just one game use)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146332...7718216552866/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146332...7718216552866/

[k13]

People don't even care about Lebron anymore that's how this hobby works...

[CurryOverLeBron]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

What is your purpose here? To be really stupid and annoying? We have plenty of people for that already.


I've always liked CP3 but own nothing of him other than this beauty (which absolutely stank after just one game use)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146332...7718216552866/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146332...7718216552866/

Hahahaha to put Chris Paul in his place. Unlikable. Needs improvement. Not really worthy of much accolade. Maybe he need JESUS.

And kick CURRY off the court again Mr. Paul hahahaha!!!

[chelseafc11]

Love all the beautiful cards in this thread, lol

[montej1695]

Originally Posted by chelseafc11

Love all the beautiful cards in this thread, lol

Lol… yeah the currydoof derailing another thread…

What would u like to see?

I probably have something close


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[CurryOverLeBron]

Chris Paul deserves 5 showoff threads.

[mfw13]

The thing is, despite being a terrific player, CP3 has never developed much of a collector base because he's played for so many teams.

[CurryOverLeBron]

Terrific does not equal likeable. You can have all the talent in the world and rub others the wrong way. Chris Paul just needs to enroll in Curry school. Bye friends!

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by CurryOverLeBron

Terrific does not equal likeable. You can have all the talent in the world and rub others the wrong way. Chris Paul just needs to enroll in Curry school. Bye friends!

whew for a moment there I was afraid you were going to hijack this thread and then I would have asked whether hijacking threads for other players is Steph-like behavior or if it's part of some Steph-related Kool-Aid drinking-level cult-routine or somesuch? A lot of the time it's really hard to tell whether this weirdness is just some kind of satire or the real deal, it's okay to admit it either way, Curry-boy

anyway, CP3
so he's like in the top 5 PGs of all-time along with Magic, Oscar, John Stockton, Chef Curry I guess (he's flexible as to whether he can be PG or SG), Steve Nash and is that about it? anyway, should it be CP<3 ?