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Old 04-14-2022, 07:22 AM   #1
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Default which company's grading card is the most valuable?

there's many grading company now.
just like psa,bgs,csg,scg,hga

in my opinion:
psa>bgs>hga>csg>scg

how about your opinion?
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Old 04-14-2022, 07:31 AM   #2
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A friend explained to me it’s the type of card “value” that you wish to grade.
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Old 04-14-2022, 07:33 AM   #3
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The data would suggest PSA number one, BGS number 2 for modern 3 for vintage, SGC 2 for Vintage and 3 for modern (and rising), CSG trailing and trying to get a foothold. HGA dead and going out of business.
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Old 04-14-2022, 07:40 AM   #4
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there's many grading company now.
just like psa,bgs,csg,scg,hga

in my opinion:
psa>bgs>hga>csg>scg

how about your opinion?
psa>bgs>sgc>csg

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Old 04-14-2022, 01:10 PM   #5
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there's many grading company now.
just like psa,bgs,csg,scg,hga

in my opinion:
psa>bgs>hga>csg>scg

how about your opinion?
Opinion on what exactly?Accurate grades?Harder grading scale?best turn around times?Something else?
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Old 04-14-2022, 03:26 PM   #6
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HGA and CSG above SGC?

No, just no. MAYBE CSG is ahead of SGC in gaming world but that might be it.
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Old 04-14-2022, 03:51 PM   #7
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I have to say, stans get triggered in these debates when discussing companies ranked #2-#5
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Old 04-14-2022, 04:13 PM   #8
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there's many grading company now.
just like psa,bgs,csg,scg,hga

in my opinion:
psa>bgs>hga>csg>scg

how about your opinion?
Because you even have HGA ranked, it makes your opinion invalid
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Old 04-14-2022, 10:16 PM   #9
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He can't even spell SGC
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Old 04-15-2022, 07:58 AM   #10
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Here's an insane comparison of the SAME card between SGC and PSA. It's truly incredible what people perceive. These auctions both ended within minutes of each other on the same night, last night.

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Old 04-15-2022, 08:25 AM   #11
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Buy the card not the flip
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Old 04-15-2022, 09:28 AM   #12
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Here's an insane comparison of the SAME card between SGC and PSA. It's truly incredible what people perceive. These auctions both ended within minutes of each other on the same night, last night.

For that price difference, it is worth the shot to just send in the SGC slab to PSA at the economy level for a crossover.
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Old 04-15-2022, 10:15 AM   #13
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I would say BGS then PSA and then SGC. A BGS 10 sells for more than a PSA 10.
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I would say BGS then PSA and then SGC. A BGS 10 sells for more than a PSA 10.
But every other aspect PSA sells for more. So who is actually better?
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Old 04-15-2022, 11:51 AM   #15
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But every other aspect PSA sells for more. So who is actually better?
Ive had 1k hookers and $50 hookers.......buy in large the $50 hookers were better.Does that help?
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Old 04-15-2022, 11:38 PM   #16
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The data would suggest PSA number one, BGS number 2 for modern 3 for vintage, SGC 2 for Vintage and 3 for modern (and rising), CSG trailing and trying to get a foothold. HGA dead and going out of business.
I haven't seen any evidence that SGC is rising for modern. It's becoming more common to see modern in their slabs, but that's about it.
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Old 04-16-2022, 07:56 AM   #17
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I would say BGS then PSA and then SGC. A BGS 10 sells for more than a PSA 10.
Not the same grade. PSA is number 1 across all grades it’s not even close.
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Old 04-17-2022, 04:21 PM   #18
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Not the same grade. PSA is number 1 across all grades it’s not even close.
A bgs 10 is higher then a psa 10 and harder % wise.
A psa 10 should be harsher graded if you compare Beckett 10>9.5 number difference.
Psa 10 is too common.
Hence psa doesn’t deserve the price hike.
Grading is subjective and a nice way to blow $. But you can get lucky and make it too.
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Old 04-17-2022, 09:25 PM   #19
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BGS is making themselves irrelevant. HGA is sort of a joke, but not a funny a joke. More like a Dane Cook joke. CSG and SGC seem really good, but just overpriced (not in comparison to current times, but for newer trending companies) for a major value difference between them and PSA. PSA is the most valuable. I like the new black GMA slabs, but they don't retain any value. I wish cards were valued on the card itself and the grade, not the grader.

In terms of shopping on ebay, PSA, SGC, CSG, GMA, and BGS are all I buy. HGA isn't even a consideration
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Old 04-18-2022, 03:58 AM   #20
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But every other aspect PSA sells for more. So who is actually better?
people seem to be confusing "quality" and "better" with which one will people pay more for.

PSA is like McDonalds. Everyone knows what it is, is comfortable with it. It is by no means "the best" unless all you care about is money.

If you actually want the "best" card, then CSG by far is the hardest grader in the business, and has the best quality slab.
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Old 04-18-2022, 12:40 PM   #21
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BGS is making themselves irrelevant. HGA is sort of a joke, but not a funny a joke. More like a Dane Cook joke. CSG and SGC seem really good, but just overpriced (not in comparison to current times, but for newer trending companies) for a major value difference between them and PSA. PSA is the most valuable. I like the new black GMA slabs, but they don't retain any value. I wish cards were valued on the card itself and the grade, not the grader.

In terms of shopping on ebay, PSA, SGC, CSG, GMA, and BGS are all I buy. HGA isn't even a consideration
People actually buy GMA slabs? There is one dealer at shows in my area that puts out a bunch of GMA stuff, and most people skip his table entirely.
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Old 04-18-2022, 01:45 PM   #22
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Here's an insane comparison of the SAME card between SGC and PSA. It's truly incredible what people perceive. These auctions both ended within minutes of each other on the same night, last night.

I think this brings up an interesting point. If the SGC and PSA 10 truly were equivalent in terms of the actual card itself and there was a 3-4x price differential, then people would be buying up the SGC 10s en-masse, resubbing them, and eating lobster each night. This doesn't seem to be happening which either means that:

a) the cards aren't equivalent and SGC 10 will not cross over with a high enough ratio to make it financially viable.

b) this is a huge gap in an inefficient market waiting to be exploited.

Anyone here willing to put a few 10s of $k where their mouth is and start buying up these SGC 10s? Myself, I've played the crossover game before, mainly for cards I want in my set registry, and they almost ALWAYS come back from PSA 1 grade lower than SGC. I've had a few that go in the other direction (my biggest score was an SGC 6 Nolan Ryan RC that crossed to PSA 7), but even getting an even crossover is considered lucky, IMO.

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Old 04-18-2022, 02:10 PM   #23
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I think this brings up an interesting point. If the SGC and PSA 10 truly were equivalent in terms of the actual card itself and there was a 3-4x price differential, then people would be buying up the SGC 10s en-masse, resubbing them, and eating lobster each night. This doesn't seem to be happening which either means that:

a) the cards aren't equivalent and SGC 10 will not cross over with a high enough ratio to make it financially viable.

b) this is a huge gap in an inefficient market waiting to be exploited.

Anyone here willing to put a few 10s of $k where their mouth is and start buying up these SGC 10s? Myself, I've played the crossover game before, mainly for cards I want in my set registry, and they almost ALWAYS come back from PSA 1 grade lower than SGC. I've had a few that go in the other direction (my biggest score was an SGC 6 Nolan Ryan RC that crossed to PSA 7), but even getting an even crossover is considered lucky, IMO.
I think you missed the real reasoning. The holder is worth money and not the card. If you cracked out that PSA 10 Jordan, it probably would get a PSA 9 or worse 90% of the time. Same thing with the SGC 10 holder. It would lose value 90% of the time and the rare instance it gets a 10 you earned money.

Grading for 1990's to present is a game to get 10's and I am over it. Grading for me is valuable for vintage where the rules are more straight forward, and you can buy the card you want.

Your argument seems like PSA is a harder grader than SGC, which is nonsense in my opinion. If you crack a PSA card to have it regraded, chances are that card will also come back 1 grade lower these days. It is not that SGC has lower standards, but the current way PSA grades cards.
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Old 04-18-2022, 02:44 PM   #24
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The correct title should be “Which slab is the most valuable?”. As noted above, the card doesnt even matter to the buyers. They care about the label and slab.
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Old 04-18-2022, 05:23 PM   #25
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People actually buy GMA slabs?
I know this is rare, but I just got a PSA order back today and this was one of the results. Bought this cheap GMA 8, cracked it out and look what it turned into.

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