Positional Investment Ranking: What Say You?

cjraleigh · 03-01-2022, 02:27 PM

The general opinion is that pitchers are not sound investments (suspend the argument if any cards are sound investments).

While this is generally true, there are many exceptions, and I don’t think they are close to last if you count all positions.

Here’s my subjective ranking from best to worst.

1. Outfielders
2. 1st Base
3. Shortstop
4. 3rd Base
5. Starting Pitchers
6. Designated Hitters
7. Catchers
8. 2nd Base
9. Closers
10. Relievers (non-closers)

Any vigorous disagreement?

Mooch1 · 03-01-2022, 02:33 PM

I like bat first prospects
Then how old they are
Vs price at the time
Don’t really care what market thinks at the time
On my guys I like
Position doesn’t matter to me
If a shortstop hits 35-40 homers
Or a dh hits same amount
Or a pitcher named Ohtani grins
The bat will always play!
Just my opinion
I do things bass ackwards apparently lol

oplum29 · 03-01-2022, 02:35 PM

i would put pitchers, closers, and relievers at the very bottom.

outfielders seem to be the trend, i'd agree with that, i mean look at the top players right now (Soto, Acuna, Trout, Harper), followed by i would say SS, then 3rd and 1st. that would be my rankings.

Mooch1 · 03-01-2022, 02:35 PM

Forgot to say fun thread!
Smiles

MoreToppsPlease · 03-01-2022, 02:42 PM

Further proof that the flipping investing crowd is distorting player popularity and that baseball card good does not equal baseball good.

cardsin47 · 03-01-2022, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Further proof that the flipping investing crowd is distorting player popularity and that baseball card good does not equal baseball good.

Flippers are not always the evil-doers that are so powerful, they can affect which positions are the most popular to the collecting community— but I still enjoy how you blame them for everything that’s wrong - like inflaton!

cardsin47 · 03-01-2022, 03:08 PM

Here’s my subjective ranking from best to worst.

1. Outfielders
2. Shortstop
3. 1st Base
4. 3rd Base
5. Designated Hitter
6. 2nd Base
7. Catchers
8. Concessions worker
9. Lot attendant
10. Starter
11. Closer
12. Middle Relief

oplum29 · 03-01-2022, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Here’s my subjective ranking from best to worst.

1. Outfielders
2. Shortstop
3. 1st Base
4. 3rd Base
5. Designated Hitter
6. 2nd Base
7. Catchers
8. Concessions worker
9. Lot attendant
10. Starter
11. Closer
12. Middle Relief

you and me are in agreement with 1-4.

Archangel1775 · 03-01-2022, 03:17 PM

More money is probably lost on starting pitchers than anyone else. The injuries they can be career ending. Before the pandemic, there weren't very many catchers that came out of the minors at high prices. 2B should definitely moved ahead. DH's are usually players that are stuck behind someone on the depth chart. Otherwise, who in the minors really comes up as a "DH", so no money lost there. Designated closers are probably cheap to begin with. The key is picking them up when they are cheap. Otherwise, they are failed starters so you already lost anyway.

SupermanBrandon · 03-01-2022, 03:59 PM

Starting pitchers would be dead last on my list. They mean less and less in today's game.

mallowciraptor · 03-01-2022, 04:11 PM

I agree that OF/SS/3B/1B are the kings of the market for baseball.

Kinda feels like there is a wave of strong catchers coming and there could be solid value on guys like Rutschman/Soderstrom/Davis/etc should they pan out.

bkspoilers · 03-01-2022, 04:39 PM

What did Tom & Greg state, "Chicks dig the Longball".

https://youtu.be/UjkuJPvMrI8

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LVDan · 03-01-2022, 04:51 PM

pitchers are the worst

FT35 · 03-01-2022, 05:04 PM

It’s interesting how in football the guy throwing the ball is the most valuable in cards. But in baseball, no one wants the guy throwing the ball.

cjraleigh · 03-01-2022, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LVDan

pitchers are the worst

Tell that to this guy:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1493923

jewcer2k5 · 03-01-2022, 05:17 PM

1st base way worse than SS/OF/3b.

cjraleigh · 03-01-2022, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT35

It’s interesting how in football the guy throwing the ball is the most valuable in cards. But in baseball, no one wants the guy throwing the ball.

Pains me to admit this, but it’s true. Apart from just a handful of guys (Kershaw, deGrom, Scherzer), even elite active starters get no hobby love.

imbluestreak23 · 03-01-2022, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Further proof that the flipping investing crowd is distorting player popularity and that baseball card good does not equal baseball good.

I would like to see your hit list of flippers.

Who offends you the most in the industry? Who makes you LIVID

bradical · 03-01-2022, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LVDan

pitchers are the worst

くたばれ

- Shohei Ohtani, probably

cjraleigh · 03-01-2022, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

1st base way worse than SS/OF/3b.

I was too hasty. Revised.

1. Outfielders
2. Shortstop
3. 3rd Base
4. 1st Base
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FT35 · 03-01-2022, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bradical

くたばれ

- Shohei Ohtani, probably

I still think…in Ohtani’s case…he’s a “40 HR guy who can also pitch” more than a “9 win pitcher who can also hit.”

jduds · 03-01-2022, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardsin47

Here’s my subjective ranking from best to worst.

1. Outfielders
2. Shortstop
3. 1st Base
4. 3rd Base
5. Designated Hitter
6. 2nd Base
7. Catchers
8. Concessions worker
9. Lot attendant
10. Starter
11. Closer
12. Middle Relief

For me
1. OF
2. SS
3. 1B
4. 3B
Big Gap
5. SP
6. 2B
7. C
8. DH
9. Closer
10. Middle relief (the only true no value one)

I get that it's hard to speculate on starters, but they do alright. Scherzer, Kershaw, Buehler, Fried, and Ian Anderson all have decent value here and there and that's just guys from the NLCS.

Svabinsky78 · 03-02-2022, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjraleigh

Pains me to admit this, but it’s true. Apart from just a handful of guys (Kershaw, deGrom, Scherzer), even elite active starters get no hobby love.

Definitely some truth to that since you can pick up really nice Verlander, Scherzer, Kershaw auto rookie parallels for under $500. I think it's just a phase...these cards will only go up in value over the long haul. These guys will go into the Hall and go down as the best pitchers of their generation. The pitching great keep their value.....My Bob Gibson, Seaver, Carlton, Ryan, Koufax, Drysdale, Feller, Perry rookies are all doing just fine in terms of value

LVDan · 03-02-2022, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LVDan

pitchers are the worst

Of course, I was kidding. Pitchers annually are my best resale cards by percentage easily. If you don’t have the wallet or stomach to invest in the game’s top young players(and I don’t) then there are always 2-5 pitchers that jump from common to semi-somethin every year. That jump is generally 4-10x You ain’t gonna buy a boat with the returns but boxes of Huggies or name brand Mac n cheese is seemingly always within reach.

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ScooterMcRibs · 03-02-2022, 12:32 AM

1. CF, position played by the two hobby GOATs (and if you're delusional enough to call Tuna Fish Sandwich a hobby GOAT then I guess it makes three, but you're wrong).
2. SP, but it's feast of famine. Many misses here, but many grand slams.

It's a valid investment strategy to buy ONLY cards of CFs. When Hobby GOAT III comes along chances are he'll play CF.

03-01-2022, 02:27 PM	#1
cjraleigh Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 1,005 cjraleigh	Positional Investment Ranking: What Say You? The general opinion is that pitchers are not sound investments (suspend the argument if any cards are sound investments). While this is generally true, there are many exceptions, and I don’t think they are close to last if you count all positions. Here’s my subjective ranking from best to worst. 1. Outfielders 2. 1st Base 3. Shortstop 4. 3rd Base 5. Starting Pitchers 6. Designated Hitters 7. Catchers 8. 2nd Base 9. Closers 10. Relievers (non-closers) Any vigorous disagreement?

03-01-2022, 02:35 PM	#3
oplum29 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 10,405	i would put pitchers, closers, and relievers at the very bottom. outfielders seem to be the trend, i'd agree with that, i mean look at the top players right now (Soto, Acuna, Trout, Harper), followed by i would say SS, then 3rd and 1st. that would be my rankings. __________________ "got em, got em, need em, got em, got em, need em, got em" - Little Monsters

03-01-2022, 02:42 PM	#5
MoreToppsPlease Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 8,676	Further proof that the flipping investing crowd is distorting player popularity and that baseball card good does not equal baseball good. __________________ IRS Tax Tip 2022-57 A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit.

03-01-2022, 03:08 PM	#7
cardsin47 Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 8,761 cardsin47	Here’s my subjective ranking from best to worst. 1. Outfielders 2. Shortstop 3. 1st Base 4. 3rd Base 5. Designated Hitter 6. 2nd Base 7. Catchers 8. Concessions worker 9. Lot attendant 10. Starter 11. Closer 12. Middle Relief __________________ @cardsin47 is Steve Meyer ~ #WaxReturns! PC Gem Mint Factory Sealed 5-Sport Active Player RC & Prospect SCARCE Hobby/ HTA Jumbo/ Retail/ Blaster/ Mega Boxes! ~Trout! Soto! JROD! Wemby! Luka! Mahomes! McDavid! Bedard! Erling!~

03-01-2022, 03:17 PM	#9
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,778	More money is probably lost on starting pitchers than anyone else. The injuries they can be career ending. Before the pandemic, there weren't very many catchers that came out of the minors at high prices. 2B should definitely moved ahead. DH's are usually players that are stuck behind someone on the depth chart. Otherwise, who in the minors really comes up as a "DH", so no money lost there. Designated closers are probably cheap to begin with. The key is picking them up when they are cheap. Otherwise, they are failed starters so you already lost anyway. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

03-01-2022, 02:33 PM	#2
Mooch1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 423	I like bat first prospects Then how old they are Vs price at the time Don’t really care what market thinks at the time On my guys I like Position doesn’t matter to me If a shortstop hits 35-40 homers Or a dh hits same amount Or a pitcher named Ohtani grins The bat will always play! Just my opinion I do things bass ackwards apparently lol

03-01-2022, 03:59 PM	#10
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Starting pitchers would be dead last on my list. They mean less and less in today's game.

03-01-2022, 04:11 PM	#11
mallowciraptor Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Maine Posts: 712 tylerzx2002 mallowciraptor	I agree that OF/SS/3B/1B are the kings of the market for baseball. Kinda feels like there is a wave of strong catchers coming and there could be solid value on guys like Rutschman/Soderstrom/Davis/etc should they pan out.

03-01-2022, 04:39 PM	#12
bkspoilers Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bettendorf, IA Posts: 116	What did Tom & Greg state, "Chicks dig the Longball". https://youtu.be/UjkuJPvMrI8 Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

03-01-2022, 04:51 PM	#13
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,521	pitchers are the worst __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

03-01-2022, 05:04 PM	#14
FT35 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2,187	It’s interesting how in football the guy throwing the ball is the most valuable in cards. But in baseball, no one wants the guy throwing the ball.

03-01-2022, 05:17 PM	#16
jewcer2k5 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NY, NY Posts: 37,546 pc_sportscards	1st base way worse than SS/OF/3b. __________________ If you have a PC Sportscards Customer Service question please reach out to litehouse17 on here and Kevin can help! PSA subs - If you are a vet can you help the new guys? Sometimes I don’t have time to reply

03-02-2022, 12:32 AM	#25
ScooterMcRibs Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BAY AREA, CA, USA Posts: 431 I'm not going to tell you. No.	1. CF, position played by the two hobby GOATs (and if you're delusional enough to call Tuna Fish Sandwich a hobby GOAT then I guess it makes three, but you're wrong). 2. SP, but it's feast of famine. Many misses here, but many grand slams. It's a valid investment strategy to buy ONLY cards of CFs. When Hobby GOAT III comes along chances are he'll play CF.