Since Trout, has any Player had so much hype as Franco?

cardsin47 · 02-23-2022, 08:05 PM

My collecting experience:

1985 - 2005 Sportscards
2006-2017 Comics
2018- Present Sportscards

So….. I missed Trouts debut, but was here since day 1 with Wander’s debut. My question is….. who was the biggest “can’t miss” in their Prospect/Rookie year? ~ any/all players from 2006-2017 ( the 12 years I was temporarily out of this Market ) ….. aside from Trout; maybe Harper?

KhalDrogo · 02-23-2022, 08:07 PM

Vlad Jr.

Wrathofmarcos · 02-23-2022, 08:07 PM

Kris Bryant

base set · 02-23-2022, 08:18 PM

#616 was a card

gmarutiak · 02-23-2022, 08:19 PM

Strasburg was the biggest hype I’ve ever seen, and I started collecting in 1987. Also, there was zero hype for Trout’s debut. Just ask anyone who sold his rookie card that first year.

awz50 · 02-23-2022, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrathofmarcos

Kris Bryant

This.

Him, Strasburg and Harper. Biggest hype in a long long time

StateEx · 02-23-2022, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gmarutiak

Strasburg was the biggest hype I’ve ever seen, and I started collecting in 1987. Also, there was zero hype for Trout’s debut. Just ask anyone who sold his rookie card that first year.

Todd VanPoppel would like a word.

thewild3 · 02-23-2022, 08:23 PM

Ohtani

pewe · 02-23-2022, 08:26 PM

Harper

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Frankp2311 · 02-23-2022, 08:28 PM

Trout didn’t have hype at the same point Franco is. I probably gave away a quarter of a million dollars worth of Trout cards in 2011 because he wasn’t on the radar until later on. I remember hitting low numbered autos of his Finest RC and sold them for nothing. Strasburg on the other hand was crazier out of the gate. Kris Bryant as well.

pewe · 02-23-2022, 08:29 PM

BTW we are really talking 2nd year hype at this point, right???

I mean, a ton of 2nd year players have had this hype, or more

Soto, Acuna, Tatis, Judge, etc etc etc

The list is long…

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bblair_2002 · 02-23-2022, 08:31 PM

Ohtani

Frankp2311 · 02-23-2022, 08:33 PM

I also remember a brief craze over daisuke matsuzaka.

LVDan · 02-23-2022, 08:45 PM

I think Harper, Strasburg, and Bryant were all considered transcendent generational phenoms when they first laced em up. The dynamic is certainly a little different now with the onslaught of international talent beginning to maybe eclipse American born players overall in the high end talent pool. The ability to sign earlier in life and further along in baseball development is a huge factor.

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boxbuster7 · 02-23-2022, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gmarutiak

Strasburg was the biggest hype I’ve ever seen, and I started collecting in 1987. Also, there was zero hype for Trout’s debut. Just ask anyone who sold his rookie card that first year.

I concur. Strasburg was something else.

BeastMode27 · 02-23-2022, 08:47 PM

Harper
Strasburg
—————
Ohtani
Ichiro
Prior
Upton
Gordon
Joba
Delmon
Bryant
Correa
Vlad

Off the top of my head all probably had bigger hype going into their debuts but the hobby wasn’t as strong. Gordon was the last Topps craze I can remember like this.

mikejones · 02-23-2022, 08:57 PM

" Mike trout, I can't remember if this dude's good. Numbered to 50, orange autograph. Mike trout, that name sounds familiar. Maybe I've seen him in other products."

solt0131 · 02-23-2022, 08:59 PM

Ichiro, Brien Taylor, Griffey Jr, Arod.

rms13 · 02-23-2022, 09:00 PM

Harper was going to be the next Babe Ruth when he came into the league

BeastMode27 · 02-23-2022, 09:04 PM

I somehow forgot Heyward who had a glorious amount of hype.

pewe · 02-23-2022, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LVDan

I think Harper, Strasburg, and Bryant were all considered transcendent generational phenoms when they first laced em up. The dynamic is certainly a little different now with the onslaught of international talent beginning to maybe eclipse American born players overall in the high end talent pool. The ability to sign earlier in life and further along in baseball development is a huge factor.

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Originally Posted by BeastMode27

Harper
Strasburg
—————
Ohtani
Ichiro
Prior
Upton
Gordon
Joba
Delmon
Bryant
Correa
Vlad

Off the top of my head all probably had bigger hype going into their debuts but the hobby wasn’t as strong. Gordon was the last Topps craze I can remember like this.

And let’s be honest here… are we comparing Wander last year at this time??? I.e., at his call up? I don’t think his hype was outsized then. Certainly folks were excited, but I feel like it was no more than a dozen other players’ hype over the last 3-4 years.

Or do we mean now, as a 2nd year player after a 1st year where they put up a historic performance at a very young age? In which case we’d have folks like Acuna, who had tons of hype going into year two.

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BGT Masters · 02-23-2022, 09:07 PM

Jason Heyward.

rngrdanny22 · 02-23-2022, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

And let’s be honest here… are we comparing Wander last year at this time??? I.e., at his call up? I don’t think his hype was outsized then. Certainly folks were excited, but I feel like it was no more than a dozen other players’ hype over the last 3-4 years.

Or do we mean now, as a 2nd year player after a 1st year where they put up a historic performance at a very young age? In which case we’d have folks like Acuna, who had tons of hype going into year two.

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Is this your weird way of trying to say that S1 isn't an RC?

pewe · 02-23-2022, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Is this your weird way of trying to say that S1 isn't an RC?

No… it means nothing more that what it is… Wander isn’t a rookie this year, so it feels most fair to compare Wander’s current hype to other players going into year 2. Nothing more.

Trying to compare him to players’ hype before they set foot in MLB, or had a chance to shine and show off skill, seems kind of inaccurate

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ObanMontecristo · 02-23-2022, 09:20 PM

When I think of ‘hype’, I think of guys who hadn’t made the bigs yet (or maybe had just a handful of ABs and haven’t exhausted their rookie status yet)?

Some good names have been mentioned already… what about Gregg Jefferies, Yasiel Puig, and Dice-K?

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LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,646	Since Trout, has any Player had so much hype as Franco? I think Harper, Strasburg, and Bryant were all considered transcendent generational phenoms when they first laced em up. The dynamic is certainly a little different now with the onslaught of international talent beginning to maybe eclipse American born players overall in the high end talent pool. The ability to sign earlier in life and further along in baseball development is a huge factor. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

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gmarutiak Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD (but Pittsburgh in my heart!) Posts: 3,147	Strasburg was the biggest hype I’ve ever seen, and I started collecting in 1987. Also, there was zero hype for Trout’s debut. Just ask anyone who sold his rookie card that first year.

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Frankp2311 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,270	Trout didn’t have hype at the same point Franco is. I probably gave away a quarter of a million dollars worth of Trout cards in 2011 because he wasn’t on the radar until later on. I remember hitting low numbered autos of his Finest RC and sold them for nothing. Strasburg on the other hand was crazier out of the gate. Kris Bryant as well.

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pewe Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 26,643	BTW we are really talking 2nd year hype at this point, right??? I mean, a ton of 2nd year players have had this hype, or more Soto, Acuna, Tatis, Judge, etc etc etc The list is long… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Frankp2311 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,270	I also remember a brief craze over daisuke matsuzaka.

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BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	Harper Strasburg ————— Ohtani Ichiro Prior Upton Gordon Joba Delmon Bryant Correa Vlad Off the top of my head all probably had bigger hype going into their debuts but the hobby wasn’t as strong. Gordon was the last Topps craze I can remember like this.

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BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	I somehow forgot Heyward who had a glorious amount of hype.

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ObanMontecristo Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Collegeville PA Posts: 1,878	When I think of ‘hype’, I think of guys who hadn’t made the bigs yet (or maybe had just a handful of ABs and haven’t exhausted their rookie status yet)? Some good names have been mentioned already… what about Gregg Jefferies, Yasiel Puig, and Dice-K?