grading advice

wdmullins · 02-19-2022, 10:30 PM

I've never submitted a card for grading, and am looking for suggestions.

The card is the "Pepper Girls" card from the 1980 Police Charlotte O's set (the one with the Ripken). It's in nice shape, maybe an 8 or better.

It's so scarce (none listed in the Beckett Population Report, only 3 in the PSA Pop Report (graded at 3, 4, and 7)), and 2 in the SGC Pop Report (4 and 5) that it's hard to guesstimate the value, plus the value would be drastically different depending on the grade.

The ripkenintheminors.com site says that a PSA 7 sold for $1600 in 2014. I don't know of any other sales. Searching for "Pepper girls charlotte" at Worthpoint doesn't show any sales records for single cards.

So I could submit it to PSA. With an estimate of <$1499, grading it would be $100; and for an estimate of up to $2499, it would be $150. Plus shipping and insurance.

I could submit it to Beckett, if I could figure out their process and prices. Can I submit a $1600 card for the "Standard" rate of $50? I can't find where the differences between their Standard, Express, and Premium services are described. Plus, there would be shipping and insurance (I assume) to add to the total.

And for SGC, it looks like it would be (declared <$1500) $30 (grade) + $15 (S&H) = $45, or (declared >$1500) $85 + 15 = $100.

So, what should I do? Am I interpreting all of the prices correctly? (and I've got to say that it was more complicated than I expected it would be to figure all of this out.) For a card of this value, is the difference between a PSA, Beckett, or SGC significant? What value should I declare? Am I shooting myself in the foot if I guess low on the value to save money on the grading fee?

Rooftop · 02-19-2022, 10:37 PM

Grading is a scam

zworykin · 02-19-2022, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooftop

Grading is a scam

What a helpful and meaningful contribution to the forum. Well done.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 02-19-2022, 10:38 PM

I am in no way, shape, or form a professional grader, but I don’t think that’s an 8. It looks lower. My advice would be to send it to SGC for $30, see what they say, then decide if you want to cross it over to PSA. SGC grading is legit, even if their resale values are lower than PSA and BGS.

NYBBFAN · 02-19-2022, 10:40 PM

I can tell you that there are for sure a few 9s on that card.

gododgersfan · 02-19-2022, 10:47 PM

If you are looking to maximize your return, go with PSA. If for PC, any of the big 3 will work.

BigSlim16 · 02-19-2022, 10:50 PM

There’s a PSA 7 listed on eBay right now for $139 OBO

MoreToppsPlease · 02-19-2022, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zworykin

What a helpful and meaningful contribution to the forum. Well done.

Valid opinion to the OP’s query any way one looks at it. What’s up with your remark?

sbfinley · 02-20-2022, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Valid opinion to the OP’s query any way one looks at it. What’s up with your remark?

You really need to forgive Jeffy for scratching your CD....

3124508 on COMC · 02-20-2022, 08:26 AM

Looks like this is the 1981 card and Ripken was in the 1980 set. And as stated above, there’s a PSA 7 listed for $139 BIN. This isn’t worth sending to PSA.

wdmullins · 02-20-2022, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Looks like this is the 1981 card and Ripken was in the 1980 set. And as stated above, there’s a PSA 7 listed for $139 BIN. This isn’t worth sending to PSA.

Thank you sir. I wasn't even aware until now that there was a 1981 set. It was with a batch of other cards that I had recalled in getting in 1980, but after 40 years I see the memory is a little off.

If this card has been unsold on ebay at this price since last year, then it obviously isn't worth slabbing (although PSA thinks it sold recently -- they have the same registry numbers).

mjohnatgt · 02-20-2022, 07:17 PM

I'm not sure this card is ever worth grading, unless Ripken is one of the girls there in drag. Cards like this with nearly zero redeeming qualities shouldn't be graded unless one of these ladies is your grandmother or Hilary Clinton or someone else who actually became famous.
It's a novelty.

Bruins1993 · 02-24-2022, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by zworykin

What a helpful and meaningful contribution to the forum. Well done.

I'd definitely go PSA walk-through.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

I'm not sure this card is ever worth grading, unless Ripken is one of the girls there in drag. Cards like this with nearly zero redeeming qualities shouldn't be graded unless one of these ladies is your grandmother or Hilary Clinton or someone else who actually became famous.
It's a novelty.

That card features Nancy Pelosi, second to far left

02-19-2022, 10:30 PM	#1
wdmullins Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 116 ubto62	grading advice I've never submitted a card for grading, and am looking for suggestions. The card is the "Pepper Girls" card from the 1980 Police Charlotte O's set (the one with the Ripken). It's in nice shape, maybe an 8 or better. It's so scarce (none listed in the Beckett Population Report, only 3 in the PSA Pop Report (graded at 3, 4, and 7)), and 2 in the SGC Pop Report (4 and 5) that it's hard to guesstimate the value, plus the value would be drastically different depending on the grade. The ripkenintheminors.com site says that a PSA 7 sold for $1600 in 2014. I don't know of any other sales. Searching for "Pepper girls charlotte" at Worthpoint doesn't show any sales records for single cards. So I could submit it to PSA. With an estimate of <$1499, grading it would be $100; and for an estimate of up to $2499, it would be $150. Plus shipping and insurance. I could submit it to Beckett, if I could figure out their process and prices. Can I submit a $1600 card for the "Standard" rate of $50? I can't find where the differences between their Standard, Express, and Premium services are described. Plus, there would be shipping and insurance (I assume) to add to the total. And for SGC, it looks like it would be (declared <$1500) $30 (grade) + $15 (S&H) = $45, or (declared >$1500) $85 + 15 = $100. So, what should I do? Am I interpreting all of the prices correctly? (and I've got to say that it was more complicated than I expected it would be to figure all of this out.) For a card of this value, is the difference between a PSA, Beckett, or SGC significant? What value should I declare? Am I shooting myself in the foot if I guess low on the value to save money on the grading fee?

02-19-2022, 10:40 PM	#5
NYBBFAN Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 5,140	I can tell you that there are for sure a few 9s on that card. __________________ https://gallery.us175.com/ https://inv.us175.com/wantlist

02-20-2022, 08:26 AM	#10
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,411	Looks like this is the 1981 card and Ripken was in the 1980 set. And as stated above, there’s a PSA 7 listed for $139 BIN. This isn’t worth sending to PSA. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

02-19-2022, 10:37 PM	#2
Rooftop Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,531	Grading is a scam

02-19-2022, 10:38 PM	#4
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,790	I am in no way, shape, or form a professional grader, but I don’t think that’s an 8. It looks lower. My advice would be to send it to SGC for $30, see what they say, then decide if you want to cross it over to PSA. SGC grading is legit, even if their resale values are lower than PSA and BGS.

02-19-2022, 10:47 PM	#6
gododgersfan Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 457 goarmynco	If you are looking to maximize your return, go with PSA. If for PC, any of the big 3 will work.

02-19-2022, 10:50 PM	#7
BigSlim16 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 4,332	There’s a PSA 7 listed on eBay right now for $139 OBO

02-20-2022, 07:17 PM	#12
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,753 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	I'm not sure this card is ever worth grading, unless Ripken is one of the girls there in drag. Cards like this with nearly zero redeeming qualities shouldn't be graded unless one of these ladies is your grandmother or Hilary Clinton or someone else who actually became famous. It's a novelty.