CSG grades very hard!

whiteboybill · 10-24-2021, 07:40 PM

For those that may think getting 9.5’s and 10’s with CSG like BGS and PSA, here is a perfect example of how hard they grade. Centering to me looks better than 7.5

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theleica · 10-24-2021, 07:41 PM

No it doesn’t….

The top and bottom centering is way off.

whiteboybill · 10-24-2021, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by theleica

No it doesn’t….

The top and bottom centering is way off.

I’m seeing that now. I was looking mainly on the sides.

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mjohnatgt · 10-24-2021, 07:46 PM

Yeah, it's like 65/35. So that's probably an accurate assessment.

The_Reverend · 10-24-2021, 09:00 PM

That is an accurate grade.

ninjacookies · 10-24-2021, 09:01 PM

That's a 9 centering with PSA.

whiteboybill · 10-24-2021, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's a 9 centering with PSA.

I think you’re right! I’ve been using CSG now for over 300 cards, and 9.5’s are hard to come by. I have yet to see a 10.

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ninjacookies · 10-24-2021, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteboybill

I think you’re right! I’ve been using CSG now for over 300 cards, and 9.5’s are hard to come by. I have yet to see a 10.

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Definitely would re-sub when/if PSA entry level reopens.

theleica · 10-24-2021, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteboybill

I think you’re right! I’ve been using CSG now for over 300 cards, and 9.5’s are hard to come by. I have yet to see a 10.

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There is zero shot this is a PSA 9.

Beavers98 · 10-24-2021, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theleica

There is zero shot this is a PSA 9.

You're right it's probably a 10. Have you seen the centering on many "high grade" PSA cards??

whiteboybill · 10-24-2021, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Beavers98

You're right it's probably a 10. Have you seen the centering on many "high grade" PSA cards??

I have, and you’re correct! PSA is by far the most lenient on centering compared to BGS and CSG.

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theleica · 10-24-2021, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteboybill

I have, and you’re correct! PSA is by far the most lenient on centering compared to BGS and CSG.

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Good luck. Trying to save you some $$$.

whiteboybill · 10-24-2021, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by theleica

Good luck. Trying to save you some $$$.

I appreciate it, thank you! If and when PSA gets to 50.00 or so a card again, I will resubmit.

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vincecarder · 10-24-2021, 09:55 PM

Thats a PSA 8 more likely than anything. Centering will knock it down & 8.5 surface means theres some sort of surface damage/printer line. Because its a star like Trae it will also get graded tougher so maybe even a 7 just for kicks.

I have a PSA 10 of a lower tier RC from same draft class that has 2 mashed corners, if I were to resub it would probably get a 6. So really its a crap shoot with grading, leave it in its current case & hope CSG get some of PSA’s market share.

Nomad · 10-25-2021, 10:28 AM

By the time PSA gets to $50. CSG will have changed their label and leapfrogged to the top. After all, they are part owned by Fanatics and seem to grade accurately.

KhalDrogo · 10-25-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

By the time PSA gets to $50. CSG will have changed their label and leapfrogged to the top. After all, they are part owned by Fanatics and seem to grade accurately.

They’re not owned by Fanatics. The Fanatics CEO holds a small ownership stake in the CSG parent company. This appears to be a really hard concept for many to understand.

JeremyNick · 10-25-2021, 11:04 AM

That could gem with PSA.

kordell1 · 10-25-2021, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

That could gem with PSA.

I was searching for some Luka's the other day and came across some off center PSA 10's. Here are a couple of them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26536229715...p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15466125150...m=154661251501

whiteboybill · 10-25-2021, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kordell1

I was searching for some Luka's the other day and came across some off center PSA 10's. Here are a couple of them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26536229715...p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15466125150...m=154661251501

These seem to be just as OC as my Trae if not more! I’m losing faith in the quality of PSA 10’s for sure!

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bloodwings19 · 10-25-2021, 12:13 PM

Front centering is like 80-20, grading is accurate from CSG. You can get away 80-20 on the back, but seeing those Doncic PSA 10s- I think you have a shot. At the same time, some of us look at cards first than grades.

JeremyNick · 10-25-2021, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kordell1

I was searching for some Luka's the other day and came across some off center PSA 10's. Here are a couple of them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26536229715...p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15466125150...m=154661251501

In that case this Trae looks like a PSA11 for sure

StraWMyerS · 10-25-2021, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteboybill

These seem to be just as OC as my Trae if not more! I’m losing faith in the quality of PSA 10’s for sure!

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PSA became popular because 10s are not that hard to get with them but the name recognition and the "10" has them selling like gold anyway. There's no way the market doesn't correct eventually.. but God knows when.

mcgee2134 · 10-25-2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's a 9 centering with PSA.

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Originally Posted by theleica

There is zero shot this is a PSA 9.

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

That could gem with PSA.

It sounds like a lot of people haven't subbed with PSA in the last year. They've been super strict (or maybe they were just to lenient before that). At least on high-end cards they are super harsh. I had a high-end card that was centered better than that which only got a PSA 8.

If you got a PSA 9 for that card you'd be extremely lucky, but if you want to waste your money and have your card in transit for awhile go ahead.

Orangejello727 · 10-25-2021, 04:22 PM

Instead of hypotheticals, do it. Bust it out and send it to PSA and lets see if it comes back as a psa 10.

whiteboybill · 10-25-2021, 04:25 PM

I would love to, but really don’t want to wait 6 mos to get it back.

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10-24-2021, 07:40 PM	#1
whiteboybill Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,064 chitownbulls75	CSG grades very hard! For those that may think getting 9.5’s and 10’s with CSG like BGS and PSA, here is a perfect example of how hard they grade. Centering to me looks better than 7.5 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ I collect D Rose and Giannis

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ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 57,161	That's a 9 centering with PSA. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

10-24-2021, 09:55 PM	#14
vincecarder Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 400 evalueway	Thats a PSA 8 more likely than anything. Centering will knock it down & 8.5 surface means theres some sort of surface damage/printer line. Because its a star like Trae it will also get graded tougher so maybe even a 7 just for kicks. I have a PSA 10 of a lower tier RC from same draft class that has 2 mashed corners, if I were to resub it would probably get a 6. So really its a crap shoot with grading, leave it in its current case & hope CSG get some of PSA’s market share. __________________ IG: eValueWay PC: Kevin Huerter, Vince Carter, Patrick Roy

10-25-2021, 04:25 PM	#25
whiteboybill Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,064 chitownbulls75	I would love to, but really don’t want to wait 6 mos to get it back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ I collect D Rose and Giannis

10-24-2021, 07:41 PM	#2
theleica Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,381	No it doesn’t…. The top and bottom centering is way off.

10-24-2021, 07:46 PM	#4
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,769 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Yeah, it's like 65/35. So that's probably an accurate assessment.

10-24-2021, 09:00 PM	#5
The_Reverend Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 15,475 islubi	That is an accurate grade.

10-25-2021, 10:28 AM	#15
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	By the time PSA gets to $50. CSG will have changed their label and leapfrogged to the top. After all, they are part owned by Fanatics and seem to grade accurately.

10-25-2021, 11:04 AM	#17
JeremyNick Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 22,801	That could gem with PSA.

10-25-2021, 12:13 PM	#20
bloodwings19 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,013	Front centering is like 80-20, grading is accurate from CSG. You can get away 80-20 on the back, but seeing those Doncic PSA 10s- I think you have a shot. At the same time, some of us look at cards first than grades.

10-25-2021, 04:22 PM	#24
Orangejello727 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 19,094	Instead of hypotheticals, do it. Bust it out and send it to PSA and lets see if it comes back as a psa 10.