Shoeless Joe Jackson photo sells for record amount

packman80 · 10-08-2021, 05:29 AM

The only known signed photo of Shoeless Joe Jackson sold for $1.47 million bucks. Crazy thing is that the same photo sold in 2015 for less then $180K. Shows you how stupid the market has got in the last couple years with people paying for cards and signed items.

GMRide27 · 10-08-2021, 07:41 AM

....link?

Also, how does that make the market "stupid"?

rngrdanny22 · 10-08-2021, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GMRide27

Also, how does that make the market "stupid"?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

In 6 years, the market has exploded in popularity and members. Demand for things has skyrocketed and things like this photo have a very finite amount of Supply.

Demand go up. Supply stay same. Price go up.

Duh.

f2tornado · 10-08-2021, 07:49 AM

The market isn't stupid but there is a stupid amount of money in circulation. It's gotta go somewhere.

JRX · 10-08-2021, 07:50 AM

Now turn it into an NFT and sell that for 3M, then make another NFT, and another...

rngrdanny22 · 10-08-2021, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Now turn it into an NFT and sell that for 3M, then make another NFT, and another...

profit.

REGGIE206 · 10-08-2021, 07:59 AM

LINK: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...n?platform=amp

“Jackson was notably illiterate and avoided signing documents if he could”

theshowandme · 10-08-2021, 08:17 AM

"This photo sold in 2015 with Heritage Auctions for $179,250 -- making for an increase of more than 720% in six years."

Wow!

KevinC · 10-08-2021, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by REGGIE206

LINK: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...n?platform=amp

“Jackson was notably illiterate and avoided signing documents if he could”

That auto is better than 99% of the players nowadays, and these players are educated.

DontToewsMeBro · 10-08-2021, 08:51 AM

The collectibles hobby is completely out of control.

Just go to Pristine Auctions some time and watch what insane highs amounts some of those fools are paying for things.

Complete lunacy.

rroboo · 10-08-2021, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinC

That auto is better than 99% of the players nowadays, and these players are educated.

Autos have really gone downhill, especially basketball. My favorite player just does a lulu... Cam Reddish just creates draws a line.

packman80 · 10-08-2021, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GMRide27

....link?

Also, how does that make the market "stupid"?

Because I think what cards are selling for are stupid money. Last couple years prices have went sky high and I think at some point the bubble will burst and these people will be having cards that are no were worth what they were paying for. Like this photo it is sold 6 years ago and now resells for over 700% more?

JRX · 10-08-2021, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rroboo

Autos have really gone downhill, especially basketball. My favorite player just does a lulu... Cam Reddish just creates draws a line.

There was another thread on this, but I think Griffey might be the last great auto.

NYRE2PECT · 10-08-2021, 08:59 AM

At least it wasn't one of the normal market manipulating AH's this time.

packman80 · 10-08-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

There was another thread on this, but I think Griffey might be the last great auto.

Players today it's all about volume when signing often they are signing hundreds of items at a time so they are going to give you their intials. You are also lucky if you can make them out and it's just not a short scribble. That's why older players are the best most still take time to give you full name autos.

JRX · 10-08-2021, 09:06 AM

I totally get that, if I had thousands of cards to sign, I'd probably just initial them lol

pip · 10-08-2021, 09:11 AM

I remember the lot this was part of. There was a host of absolutely incredible vintage (fountain pen) autographs of some of the most popular Hall of Famers from the first decade of the turn of the 20th century. I thought the prices were fairly reasonable at the time and bid on it but ended up losing out. I would have typically bid higher but didn't trust Heritage.

Bcwcardz · 10-08-2021, 09:33 AM

Do we know the provenance of this photo or did it magically appear out of thin air? Just curious

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DontToewsMeBro · 10-08-2021, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Players today it's all about volume when signing often they are signing hundreds of items at a time so they are going to give you their intials. You are also lucky if you can make them out and it's just not a short scribble. That's why older players are the best most still take time to give you full name autos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B72p4NDJsio

MiamiMarlinsFan · 10-08-2021, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bcwcardz

Do we know the provenance of this photo or did it magically appear out of thin air? Just curious

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This was my first thought too.

packman80 · 10-08-2021, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DontToewsMeBro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B72p4NDJsio

Now that's one of the laziest sigs ever. I also saw youtube video of John Cena from years back signing hundreds of photos of himself

Tomi · 10-08-2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bcwcardz

Do we know the provenance of this photo or did it magically appear out of thin air? Just curious

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There is an episode of Strange Inheritance that tells the story of this photo. Just YouTube it. Can't do it with my phone right now but maybe someone can post the YouTube video on here for everyone to see the story.

Melagoo · 10-08-2021, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by REGGIE206

LINK: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...n?platform=amp

“Jackson was notably illiterate and avoided signing documents if he could”

... Joe had pretty nice hand writing for someone that's suppose to be illiterate ... wasn't there a Washington football player that signed with an "X" because they couldn't write

cardsin47 · 10-08-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DontToewsMeBro

The collectibles hobby is completely out of control.

Just go to Pristine Auctions some time and watch what insane highs amounts some of those fools are paying for things.

Complete lunacy.

Are they fools? Is it lunacy? …….or are you simply suprised at todays prices ?

MoreToppsPlease · 10-08-2021, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DontToewsMeBro

The collectibles hobby is completely out of control.

Just go to Pristine Auctions some time and watch what insane highs amounts some of those fools are paying for things.

Complete lunacy.

Hobby’s also been a haven for launderers.

10-08-2021, 05:29 AM	#1
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,562	Shoeless Joe Jackson photo sells for record amount The only known signed photo of Shoeless Joe Jackson sold for $1.47 million bucks. Crazy thing is that the same photo sold in 2015 for less then $180K. Shows you how stupid the market has got in the last couple years with people paying for cards and signed items.

10-08-2021, 07:59 AM	#7
REGGIE206 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Mukilteo, WA (hometown: Vallejo, CA) Posts: 9,875	LINK: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...n?platform=amp “Jackson was notably illiterate and avoided signing documents if he could” __________________ INSTAGRAM: my_card_collection 📸 Last edited by REGGIE206; 10-08-2021 at 08:02 AM.

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DontToewsMeBro Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Proudly Canadian, eh Posts: 3,681 centurion-collectibles	The collectibles hobby is completely out of control. Just go to Pristine Auctions some time and watch what insane highs amounts some of those fools are paying for things. Complete lunacy. Last edited by DontToewsMeBro; 10-08-2021 at 08:54 AM.

10-08-2021, 09:11 AM	#17
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	I remember the lot this was part of. There was a host of absolutely incredible vintage (fountain pen) autographs of some of the most popular Hall of Famers from the first decade of the turn of the 20th century. I thought the prices were fairly reasonable at the time and bid on it but ended up losing out. I would have typically bid higher but didn't trust Heritage. __________________ Dealers to avoid -- https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=14831085&postcount=1

10-08-2021, 07:41 AM	#2
GMRide27 Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 705	....link? Also, how does that make the market "stupid"?

10-08-2021, 07:49 AM	#4
f2tornado Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 2,620 f2tornado f2tornado	The market isn't stupid but there is a stupid amount of money in circulation. It's gotta go somewhere.

10-08-2021, 07:50 AM	#5
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,334	Now turn it into an NFT and sell that for 3M, then make another NFT, and another...

10-08-2021, 08:17 AM	#8
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,133 theshowandme nova_cards	"This photo sold in 2015 with Heritage Auctions for $179,250 -- making for an increase of more than 720% in six years." Wow!

10-08-2021, 08:59 AM	#14
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 9,286	At least it wasn't one of the normal market manipulating AH's this time.

10-08-2021, 09:06 AM	#16
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,334	I totally get that, if I had thousands of cards to sign, I'd probably just initial them lol

10-08-2021, 09:33 AM	#18
Bcwcardz Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: West coast Posts: 1,395	Do we know the provenance of this photo or did it magically appear out of thin air? Just curious Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk