Ebay suspends PWCC for shill bidding

anusinha · 08-17-2021, 12:25 PM

Wow... anyone else just get the email?

As one of the world’s largest marketplaces, eBay has policies in place to protect our buyers and sellers. eBay was founded on trust, and we work every day to ensure a fair and positive experience for the entire eBay community.

Recently, it was determined that individuals associated with a trading card seller, PWCC, have engaged in “shill bidding,” which is prohibited on eBay. As a result, eBay has restricted PWCC’s selling privileges and listings, effective today. eBay’s policies and standards were designed to ensure a trusted marketplace where our community can transact with confidence. If we determine that a buyer or seller is not acting in good faith, eBay takes this seriously and takes action. Our customer service team will work directly with anyone who has a question about a recent PWCC transaction [link].

eBay is the destination for buying and selling trading cards - built over 25 years with our passionate community of collectors and sellers, as partners, on that journey. Trust is the cornerstone of eBay, which is why we felt it was important to share this information with our community. We assure you that eBay will continue to take actions to deliver on our commitment.

edit: I guess "restricted" is the more appropriate term, whatever that means.

ThoseBackPages · 08-17-2021, 12:26 PM

i saw that!

cruiserdaddy7 · 08-17-2021, 12:26 PM

Just got it. WOW

imbluestreak23 · 08-17-2021, 12:26 PM

How great is that?

mnvikingstwins · 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM

Probstein next?

imbluestreak23 · 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM

Why Ricky will always be #1

wharfrat7624 · 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM

Just got it

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danthemansstore · 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM

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base set · 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM

Some things will never change. Oh, wait.

BoxBreaker72 · 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM

Just got it myself.

All of their auctions are still live though.

Philthy · 08-17-2021, 12:28 PM

Woah!

bradical · 08-17-2021, 12:28 PM

SaveMeTheGum · 08-17-2021, 12:28 PM

Salt of the Earth....

JoeAdam · 08-17-2021, 12:28 PM

So what does that mean? Only Fixed Price listings?

ShoutFan2020 · 08-17-2021, 12:29 PM

Good start, now keep going....

BBases31 · 08-17-2021, 12:30 PM

They need to get rid of the private bidder's identity deal. At least with Probstein auctions you can always confirm shilling just by checking the bid history

rngrdanny22 · 08-17-2021, 12:31 PM

The problem likely isn't caused by PWCC, Probstein, [enter name here], etc.

This is very likely an overarching problem with consignment in general. This allows people who send to consigners to bid up their own cards.

wharfrat7624 · 08-17-2021, 12:33 PM

Is this their email address??

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wharfrat7624 · 08-17-2021, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBases31

They need to get rid of the private bidder's identity deal. At least with Probstein auctions you can always confirm shilling just by checking the bid history

Agree

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cruiserdaddy7 · 08-17-2021, 12:33 PM

Wonder when PWCC will update their customer base

anusinha · 08-17-2021, 12:34 PM

Wonder if they go after the other consigners next, or if this is an extortion tactic by ebay since PWCC opened up their own Premier Auction site.

cavsfan70 · 08-17-2021, 12:35 PM

Good.

rngrdanny22 · 08-17-2021, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBases31

They need to get rid of the private bidder's identity deal. At least with Probstein auctions you can always confirm shilling just by checking the bid history

Totally agree. PWCC very likely took this step to prevent BODA from getting their hands on the buyers in their research.

imbluestreak23 · 08-17-2021, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anusinha

Wonder if they go after the other consigners next, or if this is an extortion tactic by ebay since PWCC opened up their own Premier Auction site.

That crossed my mind.

No reason why eBay should be happy about giving volume discounts to PWCC allowing them to grow a multimillion dollar consignment business only to have PWCC cut off eBay on the highest end of the items they consign, thus owning all of the fee revenue.

KhalDrogo · 08-17-2021, 12:36 PM

@ thinking that you can “confirm” shilling by seeing the bidder IDs.

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anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,707	Ebay suspends PWCC for shill bidding Wow... anyone else just get the email? As one of the world’s largest marketplaces, eBay has policies in place to protect our buyers and sellers. eBay was founded on trust, and we work every day to ensure a fair and positive experience for the entire eBay community. Recently, it was determined that individuals associated with a trading card seller, PWCC, have engaged in “shill bidding,” which is prohibited on eBay. As a result, eBay has restricted PWCC’s selling privileges and listings, effective today. eBay’s policies and standards were designed to ensure a trusted marketplace where our community can transact with confidence. If we determine that a buyer or seller is not acting in good faith, eBay takes this seriously and takes action. Our customer service team will work directly with anyone who has a question about a recent PWCC transaction [link]. eBay is the destination for buying and selling trading cards - built over 25 years with our passionate community of collectors and sellers, as partners, on that journey. Trust is the cornerstone of eBay, which is why we felt it was important to share this information with our community. We assure you that eBay will continue to take actions to deliver on our commitment. edit: I guess "restricted" is the more appropriate term, whatever that means.

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rngrdanny22 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 12,372	The problem likely isn't caused by PWCC, Probstein, [enter name here], etc. This is very likely an overarching problem with consignment in general. This allows people who send to consigners to bid up their own cards.

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anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,707	Wonder if they go after the other consigners next, or if this is an extortion tactic by ebay since PWCC opened up their own Premier Auction site.

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