Got a damaged PSA10 case Giannis RC from PWCC

[edchiang2021]

Bought a Giannis Prizm RC PSA10 from PWCC through eBay. After paying the hefty 75USD for international shipping. I received the card last Friday and was surprised that it was wrapped in a FedEx document pack…… considering the amount of shipment they have charged.

After opened a layer of bubble wrap pack, I took the card out and spotted a really obvious crack on the case (as per attached).

I have written to PWCC and they said they can reimburse me 20 bucks for doing the case changing with PSA by myself… (i was like, seriously? )

I have a detailed look at the crack and the card and it seem the crack was just on the case and didn’t go down to the card, shall i risk it and ask for a partial refund to get the case re-do with PSA or shall i just return the card?

I actually get the card at US1200 and it’s sort of like a very good deal.

Hope you guys can help me out and advise me what to do.

[KhalDrogo]

Card will have to be regraded since the crack crosses the card. Return to PWCC.

[pingbling23]

how much will it cost you to get it reslabbed?

[edchiang2021]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

how much will it cost you to get it reslabbed?

200 bucks +50 shipping which if i choose re-slabbed at PSA, but it will also be re-graded which i was worried about.

[rohara99]

A crack over the card surface means its not eligible for a straight reslab, it needs to get regraded by PSA before they put it in a new case. PWCC should know that.

Return for full refund or risk sending to PSA youself (hope it wasn't bouncing around in the PSA slab).

[2010GBPackers]

Return the card. It sucks but your other options are worse.

[mc1]

Basic reholders are $25.

Unfortunately this slab wont qualify for the service, as others mentioned.

Return for full refund.

[pingbling23]

yeah, return for full refund unless pwcc is willing to cover the reslab/regrade and willing to compensate you for the possible lesser grade if it comes back less then 10. im sure they would rather give the refund and its probably easier/cheaper for them to get it reslabbed in the 10 holder.

[Toolzs]

This is one of the reason why international is the biggest problem in this business.
I always laugh my ass off when the big players talk like "wait until the internatipnal market comes in".
There is NO International market. Just a handful of people, especially in Europe who spend some dollars.
Too many reasons this hobby never get big international.

[pokemaniac]

Originally Posted by Toolzs

This is one of the reason why international is the biggest problem in this business.
I always laugh my ass off when the big players talk like "wait until the internatipnal market comes in".
There is NO International market. Just a handful of people, especially in Europe who spend some dollars.
Too many reasons this hobby never get big international.

This is what happens when mom smokes meth while pregnant.

[Toolzs]

Originally Posted by pokemaniac

This is what happens when mom smokes meth while pregnant.

Sorry, dont understand. We dont have something like that to smoke in Austria.
What is that?

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Toolzs

Sorry, dont understand. We dont have something like that to smoke in Austria.
What is that?

So Asia isnt a large market for cards, especially basketball?

[schism]

Originally Posted by mc1

Basic reholders are $25.

Unfortunately this slab wont qualify for the service, as others mentioned.

Return for full refund.

Does PSA still do reholdering right now? I have a couple I'd like to get done, but just assumed that was either shut down or an exorbitant charge.

[LC2nine10]

Originally Posted by mc1

So Asia isnt a large market for cards, especially basketball?

His country is like half the size of nyc, he has no sense of scale.

[Middies31985]

Nat Turner has stated in multiple interviews that it will be very rare for them to regrade a card when someone sends it in to be re-slabbed. Don't listen to the 80% of people saying otherwise.

With that said, PWCC should make this right and either refund you or cover the cost of a reholder.

[Toolzs]

Originally Posted by LC2nine10

His country is like half the size of nyc, he has no sense of scale.

Thats true : D
But Europa as a whole is like x 2.5 from Usa.

[edchiang2021]

Thanks for the input guys. I think I will go for the re-turn option as PSA currently do not provide normal remolded service and need to pay at least USD200 + shipping to re-submit the card, plus with the deep crack which concerned me may damaged the card even a little bit which affect the original grading of the card.

It’s been helpful. Thanks guys.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Middies31985

Nat Turner has stated in multiple interviews that it will be very rare for them to regrade a card when someone sends it in to be re-slabbed. Don't listen to the 80% of people saying otherwise.

With that said, PWCC should make this right and either refund you or cover the cost of a reholder.

Explain cases like this then:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1461298

Originally Posted by schism

Does PSA still do reholdering right now? I have a couple I'd like to get done, but just assumed that was either shut down or an exorbitant charge.

I see it under their services for $25 per card. I dont know if they truly have it open.

[bear0555]

Something like this similar happened to me with PWCC. They charged me $15 for shipping, then thought $10 was fair to get the card reslabbed. So obviously I returned the card, then never bought from them again. Not buying from PWCC anymore turned out to be one of the best card decisions I've ever made.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Toolzs

This is one of the reason why international is the biggest problem in this business.
I always laugh my ass off when the big players talk like "wait until the internatipnal market comes in".
There is NO International market. Just a handful of people, especially in Europe who spend some dollars.
Too many reasons this hobby never get big international.

Topps UK

https://uk.topps.com/home?__cf_chl_j...OvAD7VGdrfyK4c

Topps Germany

https://de.topps.com/home

PSA Japan

https://www.psacard.co.jp/

and that Euro Company they call Panini............

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Middies31985

Nat Turner has stated in multiple interviews that it will be very rare for them to regrade a card when someone sends it in to be re-slabbed. Don't listen to the 80% of people saying otherwise.

It comes down to what the PSA policy is on reslabs. Per their website: https://www.psacard.com/pricing

Please note: All items will be automatically reholdered UNLESS (1) the sonic weld on the PSA case shows signs of tampering or (2) the PSA case is fractured over the item itself. If the case is fractured over/near the item, it will be examined raw to ensure it has not sustained damage and that the original grade is still valid.

Based on that and my interpretation, I would also submit it as a reholder at $25 and have PWCC pay for it, if that is an option. Otherwise, I'm returning it.

[Litwing]

it is the worst thing by using just bubble bag. The seller expected all delivery persons and the shipping environment can take good care of your cards?

Bad packaging.