possible trade for 2020 Sterling Yordan Super Auto

[bigp621]

I have a possible trade for this card and wondering what the take is on the value. He is wanting $2800 for it. I am giving up the Following: 2020 Obsidian Favre Auto /5, Optic Tua auto /150, Burrow Gold Standard FOTL 3 clr patch auto /22, Mosiac Jalen Hurts auto, Spectra Hurts Patch auto / 75, Topps Chrome Shawn Michaels Gold auto /50, Derek Carr Contenders auto variation b /155, Inception Cam Newton 3 clr patch auto /75, 2015 Frame Matt Ryan auto /15, 1st Bowman Auto Sixto Sanches, 2007 Sp Threads Marshawn Lynch auto /250 and around $500 cash. What is everyone's thoughts. Not sure of the true value on it. I did pull that card and sold it to him for $2500

[AwesomeBrian]

Seems like you're giving up a lot, especially with the young QB's

[bigp621]

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

Seems like you're giving up a lot, especially with the young QB's

Yea - that's what is kind of holding me back on the trade. Also offseason could pick up burrow and tua for decent price since most will be chasing the lawerence wilson fields etc.

[awz50]

Woof that's a lot to give up

[ThoseBackPages]

AND cash?

pass

[bigp621]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

AND cash?

pass

It would put me about 1600 in the card since i did pick all these up for pretty cheap at the time.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by bigp621

It would put me about 1600 in the card since i did pick all these up for pretty cheap at the time.

Don’t go by what you paid for them, go by their current auction value.

I would pull a card or two back, or take the cash off the table. Long run, I think you’ll be better off keeping the cards you have, sell a few, and buy a nice $1k Yordan card. Bowman Sterling isn’t a exactly a sought after brand.

[JWBlue]

Initially my reaction was no way but....

The Randy Arozarena from the same set recently sold in a lot with other nice RA cards for $15K.

If I was a Yordan fan I would do the trade. Nice card.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-Bowman...p2047675.l2557

Edit: That was a lot with other cards actually. Still would do the trade.

[bigp621]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Initially my reaction was no way but....

The Randy Arozarena from the same set recently sold for $15K.

If I was a Yordan fan I would do the trade. Nice card.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-Bowman...p2047675.l2557

The Randy was a lot I checked it out. I think Yordan has huge potential. I was the original owner of the card. Made about $1600 off of it since I pulled it from a box out of the last pack. These cards I am looking at trading not looking to flip as I am looking to get rid of and stick to my PC guys. Wilson, Titans, Mahomes and Baker. So undecided on it because all of those guys in the lot has potential. Burrow with the knee I am iffy on and Tua, well it's Tua but fuller could make an impact with him. I still think some of these I can go and pick up plus trying to stick to on card auto's and not sticker autos. Most of these except a few are sticker.

[bigp621]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Initially my reaction was no way but....

The Randy Arozarena from the same set recently sold for $15K.

If I was a Yordan fan I would do the trade. Nice card.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2020-Bowman...p2047675.l2557

Randy Wasn't auto got a PSA 10 and up for 100k lol

[IlliniBear]

I think that Yordan could be a killer. I feel like you're currently giving a lot but a superfractor auto has a ton of potential. Yordan absolutely mashed in 2019. If Yordan hits 40 bombs this year it will appreciate and I think he's a good bet to do so.

[noaskiecards]

Pay the 2800 in cash, that's cheap

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[bigp621]

Originally Posted by IlliniBear

I think that Yordan could be a killer. I feel like you're currently giving a lot but a superfractor auto has a ton of potential. Yordan absolutely mashed in 2019. If Yordan hits 40 bombs this year it will appreciate and I think he's a good bet to do so.

Yep - that's what I was thinking as well.

[bigp621]

Well I pulled the trigger. Thinks it’s a win for both.


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[Bambino22]

Congrats! I think that's a great deal for you.

[noaskiecards]

No certainty in life but if things go according to plan, see you and that card at goldin auctions in a couple years

Nice pickup

Only a handful of rookie supers, and just a few autos, definitely nice card

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[Zoop]

I'd rather have smaller but still hefty eggs in my basket than leveraging it all on one player. That said, it's a nice card and if it will make you happier than the other cards, then you can't lose.

[bigp621]

Originally Posted by Zoop

I'd rather have smaller but still hefty eggs in my basket than leveraging it all on one player. That said, it's a nice card and if it will make you happier than the other cards, then you can't lose.

I understand. I’m thinking in a couple of months I’ll go buy a burrow and tua. Favre there’s a ton of him. I didn’t give up any PC Cards for it and kept my biggest card which is the Mahomes. I think I did ok. Yordan has huge potential tua and burrow does as well. Time will tell. Players seem to last longer in baseball than football unless your tom brady lol


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[Zoop]

Originally Posted by bigp621

I understand. I’m thinking in a couple of months I’ll go buy a burrow and tua. Favre there’s a ton of him. I didn’t give up any PC Cards for it and kept my biggest card which is the Mahomes. I think I did ok. Yordan has huge potential tua and burrow does as well. Time will tell. Players seem to last longer in baseball than football unless your tom brady lol


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Once traded a second year Andrew Luck /20 auto for a Topps Chromr RC auto /75 of Bryce Harper for that very reason. Won that trade by quite a bit, so I understand your logic.

[bigp621]

Originally Posted by Zoop

Once traded a second year Andrew Luck /20 auto for a Topps Chromr RC auto /75 of Bryce Harper for that very reason. Won that trade by quite a bit, so I understand your logic.

You did well then. Harper still playing luck well we know how that went.


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[noaskiecards]

Originally Posted by Zoop

I'd rather have smaller but still hefty eggs in my basket than leveraging it all on one player. That said, it's a nice card and if it will make you happier than the other cards, then you can't lose.

I think if you truly believe in a player, go all in on their stuff with money you can afford to lose and feel comfortable losing

This card could be 250 bucks in a few years and 25 grand in a few years

Go with your gut, and to diversify buy sealed wax with that player but a lot of other very good prospects and rookies

Don't regret going all in

I guess we all have a different mentality




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[Zoop]

Originally Posted by noaskiecards

I think if you truly believe in a player, go all in on their stuff with money you can afford to lose and feel comfortable losing

This card could be 250 bucks in a few years and 25 grand in a few years

Go with your gut, and to diversify buy sealed wax with that player but a lot of other very good prospects and rookies

Don't regret going all in

I guess we all have a different mentality




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It's going all-in on one number at the casino's roulette table rather than putting a few stacks on other numbers. Statistically, you're less likely to win on one number alone. I'm data guy professionally, so naturally I'm a "play it safe" guy when I gamble. Players A, B, and C might be busts, but if Player D breaks out, you're a winner vs. the mentality of letting it all ride on one player. Higher risk, but higher reward.

Neither mindset is wrong. Just different. It's all what you're most comfortable with.

[eye4talent]

I don’t collect football anymore, so I can’t tell you based on the values. But from a talent perspective, Burrow and Favre are the only names that really concern me. And between those two, the Burrow is the only one with foreseeable upside.

And when going for a card like an autographed rookie superfractor of a big-time slugger, your focus should be on what you think the card will become relative to what you’re giving up.

Tua and Hurts are good players, but I don’t see them taking the league by storm—certainly not on the level of Mahomes, Lamar and Josh Allen. And then you have to consider that there’s a sizable rookie QB class about to enter the league.

Maybe you lose out on some value gain with Hurts and Tua, but that could be easily cancelled out by the Yordan value gain. Considering that Yordan hardly played last year and had a limited spring training this year, and yet he’s already mashing, I think the hobby will be going mad over his cards very soon.

As for the other players you’d give up, Carr is a bum, Newton isn’t likely to regain his star power (at least not close to what he was), and I can’t imagine Marshawn will see any considerable value gains anytime soon. The Matt Ryan is an 8th-year auto, so who cares. Shawn Michaels, as in the wrestler?

The Sixto is an interesting card. But unless he’s Jose Fernandez, it’s difficult to see a Marlins pitcher having significant hobby upside.

Maybe you try to adjust the trade a little, but I’d way the upside of this card of a player who could bat .300 and hit 50 HR, versus a couple of good QB’s who will battle for wild card spots, a super-talented QB on the Bengals, a very talented pitcher on the Marlins, and some veterans/retired players.

The downside of the Yordan: As much as I love Bowman Sterling, the hobby certainly doesn’t see it on the same level as a Topps Chrome. His knees sure seem okay now, but that question will linger. And he’s a DH on the much-reviled Astros.

But if he plays a full season at the level of what we saw in 2019, then none of the downside concerns, nor any of the lost value potential of the other cards, will matter.


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[Bambino22]

Originally Posted by Zoop

It's going all-in on one number at the casino's roulette table rather than putting a few stacks on other numbers. Statistically, you're less likely to win on one number alone. I'm data guy professionally, so naturally I'm a "play it safe" guy when I gamble. Players A, B, and C might be busts, but if Player D breaks out, you're a winner vs. the mentality of letting it all ride on one player. Higher risk, but higher reward.

Neither mindset is wrong. Just different. It's all what you're most comfortable with.

OP was just interested in current market value. One which should take into consideration the high upside potential of this card. Also yes, it's risk to crash.

Be careful on inferring this trade was very high risk. We know nothing about his portfolio of cards or risk tolerance. And even if the card crashes you can't be to results oriented if the value makes sense at the time. In the extreme hypothetical, owning a diversified list of supers already would mean this is very low risk to OP and the opposite of going all in.

I'm really jealous of OP with this card.

[bigp621]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

I don’t collect football anymore, so I can’t tell you based on the values. But from a talent perspective, Burrow and Favre are the only names that really concern me. And between those two, the Burrow is the only one with foreseeable upside.

And when going for a card like an autographed rookie superfractor of a big-time slugger, your focus should be on what you think the card will become relative to what you’re giving up.

Tua and Hurts are good players, but I don’t see them taking the league by storm—certainly not on the level of Mahomes, Lamar and Josh Allen. And then you have to consider that there’s a sizable rookie QB class about to enter the league.

Maybe you lose out on some value gain with Hurts and Tua, but that could be easily cancelled out by the Yordan value gain. Considering that Yordan hardly played last year and had a limited spring training this year, and yet he’s already mashing, I think the hobby will be going mad over his cards very soon.

As for the other players you’d give up, Carr is a bum, Newton isn’t likely to regain his star power (at least not close to what he was), and I can’t imagine Marshawn will see any considerable value gains anytime soon. The Matt Ryan is an 8th-year auto, so who cares. Shawn Michaels, as in the wrestler?

The Sixto is an interesting card. But unless he’s Jose Fernandez, it’s difficult to see a Marlins pitcher having significant hobby upside.

Maybe you try to adjust the trade a little, but I’d way the upside of this card of a player who could bat .300 and hit 50 HR, versus a couple of good QB’s who will battle for wild card spots, a super-talented QB on the Bengals, a very talented pitcher on the Marlins, and some veterans/retired players.

The downside of the Yordan: As much as I love Bowman Sterling, the hobby certainly doesn’t see it on the same level as a Topps Chrome. His knees sure seem okay now, but that question will linger. And he’s a DH on the much-reviled Astros.

But if he plays a full season at the level of what we saw in 2019, then none of the downside concerns, nor any of the lost value potential of the other cards, will matter.


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I was thinking of the upside of yordan over all of those. Burrow I’ll buy a few more of him. Market will drop on him with the new class coming in. The Sterling value I agree but being a super and rookie auto think it will hold its value.


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