BGS mislabeled, fake, or something else?

Jchvw9 · 02-04-2021, 03:08 PM

I recently purchased a card on Ebay that I'm hoping someone can help me understand the grading on. The card is a 1987 Panini #168 Holyfield / Diaz Beckett graded 9.5 and the registry # is 0001611345. When I do a search in the system it shows the card as being real, but the numbers are wild and it is not categorized correctly as I can't find it by going through the set lookup. I have contacted Beckett directly 3 times now and each time have received the same response, which is a copy of the record saying there are over 20,000 BGS graded cards from this year. Are there really 968 copies of this card graded higher than this one or am I looking at something wrong?

Any help is appreciated!

towerymt · 02-04-2021, 04:33 PM

My guess is that it's not categorized by sport. The cert # looks up like you mentioned, but then clicking the links within the list of the pop report doesn't go to a page like you'd expect. Something is definitely wrong with the pop report.

3124508 on COMC · 02-05-2021, 11:59 AM

Beckett’s registry and database are both pretty terrible. There’s clearly some sort of database error at play here where the card isn’t categorized as it should be, potentially because it was graded so long ago. If it were me, I would enjoy the physical card and not bother trying to get Beckett to fix the website/database error.

canuck · 02-13-2021, 11:11 AM

I got a early BGS slab that says another card in the BGS registry. The card is real, graded correctly, and the slab wasn't tampered with so its just a database error.

grade · 02-13-2021, 01:06 PM

I have early quad 10's with a gold label (no black label at the time). Also, have some graded cards that are not in the pop report that were grade long ago.

Jchvw9 · 02-13-2021, 01:11 PM

This is good to hear! With so many altered, fake, or otherwise floating around these days I wanted to make sure it wasn't a scam. Thank you!

02-04-2021, 04:33 PM	#2
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,717	My guess is that it's not categorized by sport. The cert # looks up like you mentioned, but then clicking the links within the list of the pop report doesn't go to a page like you'd expect. Something is definitely wrong with the pop report. __________________ In search of... 2018 Topps Chrome Update Max Scherzer #HMT77: Superfractor 2019 Topps Update Carter Kieboom #US109: Platinum

02-05-2021, 11:59 AM	#3
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,374	Beckett’s registry and database are both pretty terrible. There’s clearly some sort of database error at play here where the card isn’t categorized as it should be, potentially because it was graded so long ago. If it were me, I would enjoy the physical card and not bother trying to get Beckett to fix the website/database error. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

02-04-2021, 03:08 PM	#1
Jchvw9 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 2	BGS mislabeled, fake, or something else? I recently purchased a card on Ebay that I'm hoping someone can help me understand the grading on. The card is a 1987 Panini #168 Holyfield / Diaz Beckett graded 9.5 and the registry # is 0001611345. When I do a search in the system it shows the card as being real, but the numbers are wild and it is not categorized correctly as I can't find it by going through the set lookup. I have contacted Beckett directly 3 times now and each time have received the same response, which is a copy of the record saying there are over 20,000 BGS graded cards from this year. Are there really 968 copies of this card graded higher than this one or am I looking at something wrong? Any help is appreciated!

02-13-2021, 11:11 AM	#4
canuck Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 97	I got a early BGS slab that says another card in the BGS registry. The card is real, graded correctly, and the slab wasn't tampered with so its just a database error.

02-13-2021, 01:06 PM	#5
grade Banned Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 3,113	I have early quad 10's with a gold label (no black label at the time). Also, have some graded cards that are not in the pop report that were grade long ago.

02-13-2021, 01:11 PM	#6
Jchvw9 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 2	This is good to hear! With so many altered, fake, or otherwise floating around these days I wanted to make sure it wasn't a scam. Thank you!