Is this helmet altered? Mahomes full size auto

yellid23 · 12-20-2020, 06:16 AM

Almost pulled the trigger on this locally last night and then looked up the certification. It comes back as a Texas tech helmet not a chiefs. Any thoughts?

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yellid23 · 12-20-2020, 06:35 AM

Or did jsa just mislabel it?

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gooddaysir · 12-20-2020, 08:12 AM

Why wouldn’t you just ask the fellow who is selling it?

the mesiah · 12-20-2020, 08:17 AM

I’m Going to say yes.decals look weird , crooked , not placed at the right angle on either side ,

yellid23 · 12-20-2020, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddaysir

Why wouldn’t you just ask the fellow who is selling it?

Of course I asked. Just checking to see if you guys had any additional info.

yellid23 · 12-20-2020, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by the mesiah

I’m Going to say yes.decals look weird , crooked , not placed at the right angle on either side ,

Thanks, agreed. Couple red flags for me (box has the collegiate sticker) (does riddell only do college helmets now?)

raiderguy10 · 12-20-2020, 09:57 AM

Where is the jsa sticker on the helmet? Or did I miss it?

If you don't have a sticker on the helmet jsa didn't verify it

DontToewsMeBro · 12-20-2020, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by raiderguy10

Where is the jsa sticker on the helmet? Or did I miss it?

If you don't have a sticker on the helmet jsa didn't verify it

I was just about to say that - I cannot see the sticker

You cannot fake the sticker but it's easy to just put a cert card beside a fake in a picture

Auto looks fake and the helmet looks cheap with the logo off-centre

I'd say OP made the right decision

Stay away

If you have the time you may want to send this info to JSA - someone is using them to rip people off and I can't imagine they'd be happy with that

BostonNut · 12-20-2020, 10:02 AM

What a pathetic effort on that autograph...that alone would keep me away.

majestik101 · 12-20-2020, 10:05 AM

Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole

the mesiah · 12-20-2020, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by yellid23

Thanks, agreed. Couple red flags for me (box has the collegiate sticker) (does riddell only do college helmets now?)

I stilll see they do pro helmets as well ,

ucLAkers · 12-20-2020, 10:38 AM

Save your $$...I heard he has a bad shoulder

lambeauleap87 · 12-20-2020, 01:24 PM

They're frequently stickered at the bottom, back of the helmet (on the outside). Just ask for a photo of the sticker with the helmet; that cert is a "witness" cert which means JSA was there when it was signed.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was either 1) human error or 2) someone got a TTU helmet done and decided to re-decal it into a Chiefs helmet, which isn't uncommon.

SDcardguy24 · 12-20-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

What a pathetic effort on that autograph...that alone would keep me away.

His old signature wasn't that great anyways, but I can't believe he shortened it up even more

You would think at a paid signing he would want to use the nicer one.

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

They're frequently stickered at the bottom, back of the helmet (on the outside). Just ask for a photo of the sticker with the helmet; that cert is a "witness" cert which means JSA was there when it was signed.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was either 1) human error or 2) someone got a TTU helmet done and decided to re-decal it into a Chiefs helmet, which isn't uncommon.

I also agree that it was most likely a decal swap since the Chiefs helmet is more desirable

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