Jarrett Allen - Why No Value?

Ryanfreelreel · 12-14-2020, 03:55 PM

Jarrett Allen, Center for the Brooklyn Nets, from the famed 2017 rookie class is a really great player, and I’m not saying so only because I am a Nets fan... his stats tell the story. For two years in a row now he has averaged a double-double over the season . I know centers get the least hobby love - but this instance to me, is just ridiculous....
This is clearly not a hype/pump thread either, his prices aren’t going up and even his rare stuff is dirt cheap...
Tell me how a player with this statistics over a few year span, who is young on a hot trending team has numerous easily obtainable SILVER PRIZM ROOKIES UNDER 10?!
Week ago he had a black velocity /39 optic rookie sell for $13
Do I not understand something?

smalltown · 12-14-2020, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanfreelreel

Jarrett Allen, Center for the Brooklyn Nets, from the famed 2017 rookie class is a really great player, and I’m not saying so only because I am a Nets fan... his stats tell the story. For two years in a row now he has averaged a double-double over the season . I know centers get the least hobby love - but this instance to me, is just ridiculous....
This is clearly not a hype/pump thread either, his prices aren’t going up and even his rare stuff is dirt cheap...
Tell me how a player with this statistics over a few year span, who is young on a hot trending team has numerous easily obtainable SILVER PRIZM ROOKIES UNDER 10?!
Week ago he had a black velocity /39 optic rookie sell for $13
Do I not understand something?

He's a center.

jcardstore · 12-14-2020, 03:59 PM

He's the definition of an average NBA player

Ryanfreelreel · 12-14-2020, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

He's the definition of an average NBA player

Regardless of if I agree with this or not, name me a player drafted in the past 3 years you would call “an average player” - (must play at least 20 mins a game and/or average 10 pts a game) that has a silver prizm rookie anywhere near $10 or under?

cardinalsooner · 12-14-2020, 04:11 PM

Not a highlights guy...highlight guys sell.

Ryanfreelreel · 12-14-2020, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smalltown

He's a center.

Nikola Jokic, KAT, Joel Embiid, and deandre ayton are centers as well. Their cards are doing pretty decent I’ve heard.

messier2 · 12-14-2020, 04:13 PM

Keep on buying if you like him!

LeonfromNC · 12-14-2020, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by messier2

Keep on buying if you like him!

This!

Buy what you like.

If you’re trying to get Rich however don’t buy Jarrett Allen.

Ryanfreelreel · 12-14-2020, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by messier2

Keep on buying if you like him!

Oh. I will. I love his prices being low, I just don’t understand it. I collect all Nets, Durant and Kyrie coming over made my heart happy, but my wallet mad - so it’s nice to pick up really nice stuff cheaply of one of their starters - especially with Leverts stuff steadily going up. Glad I was in with him before the $100 prizm rookies

messier2 · 12-14-2020, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanfreelreel

Oh. I will. I love his prices being low, I just don’t understand it. I collect all Nets, Durant and Kyrie coming over made my heart happy, but my wallet mad - so it’s nice to pick up really nice stuff cheaply of one of their starters - especially with Leverts stuff steadily going up. Glad I was in with him before the $100 prizm rookies

The hobby is very odd sometimes on who gets "love" and who doesn't. Same with Mitchell Robinson across the river...same type of player...not much love (but more love than Allen!).

yankeesfan24 · 12-14-2020, 04:24 PM

He is soft and cannot start over DJ. I like him and have a good bit of his stuff but you’re not going to see his cards move up a lot.

jfan2024 · 12-14-2020, 04:29 PM

He's a center. Top centers like Jokic and Embiid don't even sell that well. Then, as great as Allen is, he's not a perennial all-star or anything yet. He's more in the range of I don't know..Sabonis, Ibaka, Tyson Chandler type in terms of the card hobby and pricing.

Dame · 12-14-2020, 04:31 PM

Why does Brad Daugherty cards have no value?

JustinVerlander07 · 12-14-2020, 04:31 PM

He's an average center. Why would he have much hobby value?

theleica · 12-14-2020, 04:43 PM

Jarrett Allen is my PC and I couldn't care less if he ever blows up. I love the ability to buy whatever card I want of his for a reasonable price

jcardstore · 12-14-2020, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanfreelreel

Regardless of if I agree with this or not, name me a player drafted in the past 3 years you would call “an average player” - (must play at least 20 mins a game and/or average 10 pts a game) that has a silver prizm rookie anywhere near $10 or under?

Prices reflect either: Their on-court production currently OR Their perceived future production.

Allen doesn't have either of those going for him so people aren't spending a lot of money for his cards.

theleica · 12-14-2020, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Prices reflect either: Their on-court production currently OR Their perceived future production.

Allen doesn't have either of those going for him so people aren't spending a lot of money for his cards.

Yup. And the only way they will start dropping money on him is if he stays on the Nets, he is starting (looks like he might be coming off the bench), he puts up better numbers and the Nets look like legit contenders.

asujbl · 12-14-2020, 04:57 PM

The last Jarrett Allen Silver went for $35... and the one before that went for $40...

So...

GeechQuest · 12-14-2020, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by theleica

Yup. And the only way they will start dropping money on him is if he stays on the Nets, he is starting (looks like he might be coming off the bench), he puts up better numbers and the Nets look like legit contenders.

Even if that happens, nobody is likely to attribute the Nets success to Allen.

He’s in hobby purgatory, which is okay.

KD35Russ0 · 12-14-2020, 05:26 PM

The best thing for Allen prices right now would be for him to be a part of a Harden trade (virtually gtd if it happens) and to get to put up some numbers on a new team. Otherwise, he's probably not budging anytime soon

tlm7995 · 12-14-2020, 05:37 PM

this thread is peak 2020

hauntedcomputer · 12-14-2020, 05:41 PM

Pretty much should be a common and will be soon enough

smalltown · 12-14-2020, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanfreelreel

Nikola Jokic, KAT, Joel Embiid, and deandre ayton are centers as well. Their cards are doing pretty decent I’ve heard.

Not really that “decent” compared to their guard contemporaries. Modern Big men historically sell really poorly overall.

daeve · 12-14-2020, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan24

He is soft and cannot start over DJ. I like him and have a good bit of his stuff but you’re not going to see his cards move up a lot.

He puts up similar/better numbers than DJ... don't buy-in to KD's rhetoric, which seems to be : "He's my friend so he should start" .

dengbang · 12-14-2020, 06:29 PM

I buy his cards because of his impressive fro. One of these days it'll have a stat line of it's own.

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12-14-2020, 03:55 PM	#1
Ryanfreelreel Banned Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 270	Jarrett Allen - Why No Value? Jarrett Allen, Center for the Brooklyn Nets, from the famed 2017 rookie class is a really great player, and I’m not saying so only because I am a Nets fan... his stats tell the story. For two years in a row now he has averaged a double-double over the season . I know centers get the least hobby love - but this instance to me, is just ridiculous.... This is clearly not a hype/pump thread either, his prices aren’t going up and even his rare stuff is dirt cheap... Tell me how a player with this statistics over a few year span, who is young on a hot trending team has numerous easily obtainable SILVER PRIZM ROOKIES UNDER 10?! Week ago he had a black velocity /39 optic rookie sell for $13 Do I not understand something?

12-14-2020, 03:59 PM	#3
jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 21,760 Jcardstore	He's the definition of an average NBA player __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

12-14-2020, 04:24 PM	#11
yankeesfan24 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 19,031 tommy2221race yankeesfan24	He is soft and cannot start over DJ. I like him and have a good bit of his stuff but you’re not going to see his cards move up a lot. __________________ Always looking for high-end Spencer Dinwiddie, Arsenal, and Mike Muscala

12-14-2020, 04:29 PM	#12
jfan2024 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 1,937 jfan2024	He's a center. Top centers like Jokic and Embiid don't even sell that well. Then, as great as Allen is, he's not a perennial all-star or anything yet. He's more in the range of I don't know..Sabonis, Ibaka, Tyson Chandler type in terms of the card hobby and pricing. __________________ Instagram: NetsEdge15

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JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 16,881 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	He's an average center. Why would he have much hobby value? __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

12-14-2020, 04:11 PM	#5
cardinalsooner Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 826	Not a highlights guy...highlight guys sell.

12-14-2020, 04:13 PM	#7
messier2 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 15,275	Keep on buying if you like him!

12-14-2020, 04:31 PM	#13
Dame Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 3,482	Why does Brad Daugherty cards have no value?

12-14-2020, 04:43 PM	#15
theleica Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,381	Jarrett Allen is my PC and I couldn't care less if he ever blows up. I love the ability to buy whatever card I want of his for a reasonable price

12-14-2020, 04:57 PM	#18
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,464 ohiosundevils	The last Jarrett Allen Silver went for $35... and the one before that went for $40... So... __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

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KD35Russ0 Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: North Jersey Posts: 2,576 jpbogardus22 KD35Russ0	The best thing for Allen prices right now would be for him to be a part of a Harden trade (virtually gtd if it happens) and to get to put up some numbers on a new team. Otherwise, he's probably not budging anytime soon __________________ Always looking for vintage baseball HOF.

12-14-2020, 05:37 PM	#21
tlm7995 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 563 tlm7995	this thread is peak 2020 __________________ I just wanted to fill in the blank

12-14-2020, 05:41 PM	#22
hauntedcomputer Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: NC mountains Posts: 1,097 hauntedcomputer	Pretty much should be a common and will be soon enough __________________ +++ The market is always right, even when it's dumb. More cards are overgraded than undergraded. Change my mind.

12-14-2020, 06:29 PM	#25
dengbang Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,047	I buy his cards because of his impressive fro. One of these days it'll have a stat line of it's own. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk __________________ I collect Johnny "Red" Kerr & Luol Deng