Subgrades on BGS 9 Jordan Rookie to Crossover to PSA 9

[thechemist]

I know people always say buy the card but not the grade but looking at buying a BGS 9 quad + + (2 x 9.5 and 2 x 9 Subgrades)

Which two subgrades do you think should be 9.5 to make transition to a PSA 9 if I would want to do that in the future.

I know you would say just buy the PSA 9 but I actually prefer the BGS slab but can't say I won't change my mind in the future

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[rj.cataldo]

EDIT: Misread quad 9s - perhaps it has a shot, but I still wouldn’t pay a large premium if PSA 9 is your target. Especially with grading getting tougher. Corners are always very important with PSA cards. Centering historically less so compared to Beckett I think.

I tried this once in the past many years ago and it cost me. I’ve only once crossed a card over and that was a Griffey 9.5 with all gem or higher sub-grades. MAYBE cracking it out you have a shot, but do you want to risk that it gets damaged or comes back an 8?

If you want a BGS 9 buy it. If you want a PSA 9 don’t.


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[hockeyguyrich]

Buy the bgs 9 and send it in in the holder and and put a psa 9 minimum on it and if it doesnt pass it comes back still graded

[rustywest]

Wrong forum. Go to the Grading Forum for your rookie grading questions

[aggie4ever]

Probably want the 9.5 subgrades on corners and surface for the best chance of crossing over. However, BGS subgrades are pretty inconsistent, so look at the card and make sure the subgrades are accurate. More importantly, make sure you measure the card in the BGS slab to verify it isn't short.

Also, when the card was graded may be important. The past few months, it seems like PSA has tightened up their standards, while BGS has loosened theirs.

[FT35]

There’s no correlation between BGS and PSA because it’s been graded on a different grading scale/standard. It’s worth crossing over to PSA if and only if you think it meets the PSA 9 standards. You have to look at it raw in the case as PSA would, with PSA’s grading scale/standards in mind. That’s what they will do too. Anything BGS means nothing to PSA (and vise versa) because the actual scale and method behind each card’s grade is different.

[Willikn]

Have successfully crossed plenty of 1986 and 1987 Fleer from OG BGS 8.5 slabs to PSA 9s. All subs 9+ with an 8 centering grade that was within PSA 9 standards. Three times with an 87 Fleer MJ (also got 8s twice).

Never tried on the 1986 Fleer #57 and certainly wouldn't now. PSA will stick you with altered stock in cases where BGS does not and so many of these spent time in 4 screws. Never mind (IMO) BGS is easier to clear with a trimmed #57.

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by Willikn

Have successfully crossed plenty of 1986 and 1987 Fleer from OG BGS 8.5 slabs to PSA 9s. All subs 9+ with an 8 centering grade that was within PSA 9 standards. Three times with an 87 Fleer MJ (also got 8s twice).

Never tried on the 1986 Fleer #57 and certainly wouldn't now. PSA will stick you with altered stock in cases where BGS does not and so many of these spent time in 4 screws. Never mind (IMO) BGS is easier to clear with a trimmed #57.

I've sent a few PSA 8 MJ RC's to BGS and they have claimed the edges are trimmed. You never know what you're going to get for a review when you have a high end high profile card from either company.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by thechemist

I know people always say buy the card but not the grade but looking at buying a BGS 9 quad + + (2 x 9.5 and 2 x 9 Subgrades)

Which two subgrades do you think should be 9.5 to make transition to a PSA 9 if I would want to do that in the future.

I know you would say just buy the PSA 9 but I actually prefer the BGS slab but can't say I won't change my mind in the future

First post, have enjoyed reading and finally got approved to post and happy about that

I like the card you're buying. LOL. you're on the right track.

good luck. CORNERS would be a MUST.