Russel Wilson 2012 Topps Chrome RC Prices ^$^

[bad0165]

In early July I submitted the above listed card to PSA. PSA 10's were selling for around $500. Just in ONE MONTH, they have already climbed to $1,000. How is this even possible? I know we are in a bubble, but holy sh**. PSA 9's were around $100 or so and are now in the $280 range.

[AJPennSt]

Originally Posted by bad0165

In early July I submitted the above listed card to PSA. PSA 10's were selling for around $500. Just in ONE MONTH, they have already climbed to $1,000. How is this even possible? I know we are in a bubble, but holy sh**. PSA 9's were around $100 or so and are now in the $280 range.

He's on fire across the board. To be honest with you he was long overdue and prices are finally catching up. I got his Auto Topps Chrome 9.5 at the end of June for $475 and the same card topped $1,000 yesterday. I am regretting not getting any of the base Topps Chrome though. I'm buying some parallels and early prizm cards to add to the collection but I'll wait for the next dip to get in on the base Chrome and prizm rookies..

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[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by bad0165

In early July I submitted the above listed card to PSA. PSA 10's were selling for around $500. Just in ONE MONTH, they have already climbed to $1,000. How is this even possible? I know we are in a bubble, but holy sh**. PSA 9's were around $100 or so and are now in the $280 range.

I saw a guy on Facebook attempting to sell a 1986 Rice PSA 9 for $2400. two years ago one could be had for $400. I thought he was full of it, but lo and behold last three sales on the 'bay have been around $2500.

Holy **** is right, I'm just waiting for this bubble to burst - because it has to. Every wannabe know-nothing Gary V clone is entering the hobby and dropping stupid money.

[bad0165]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I saw a guy on Facebook attempting to sell a 1986 Rice PSA 9 for $2400. two years ago one could be had for $400. I thought he was full of it, but lo and behold last three sales on the 'bay have been around $2500.

Holy **** is right, I'm just waiting for this bubble to burst - because it has to. Every wannabe know-nothing Gary V clone is entering the hobby and dropping stupid money.

Gary V has definitely helped the hobby gain some traction (AKA boost his profits). I'm just praying I get my card back before December

[GoHawks25]

Which is odd considering a PSA 10 Russell Wilson Topps Chrome AUTO PSA 10 just yesterday sold for $1200... A $200 difference (16.6%) for the autographed version. To put that in perspective a 2017 Prizm Patrick Mahomes AUTO PSA 10 most recently sold for $7500 on June 21st (and a probstein auction for $12,700 the same day) while a 2017 Prizm Patrick Mahomes Base PSA 10 sold for about $3400 back on June 21st... That’s a $4000+ difference (100%+) between the auto and non-auto version while only a couple hundred dollar difference for the Russell Wilson Auto and non-auto. There’s so much room to grow for the Topps Chrome Russell Wilson auto.

[bigdog2003]

When I saw prices going up recently I dug out what I had. It wasn't much, 1 TC base, 1 regular Topps, and a Topps Strata retail base. I haven't decided yet if I want to sub them or just move them raw.

[bad0165]

Originally Posted by bigdog2003

When I saw prices going up recently I dug out what I had. It wasn't much, 1 TC base, 1 regular Topps, and a Topps Strata retail base. I haven't decided yet if I want to sub them or just move them raw.

Sub or die! Earlier in the year before prices REALLY took off, I had a bazooka mini Lebron James RC. Sold it raw on ebay for about $20..... Now that raw card is about $130 and PSA 10's are just stupid.

Having it graded forces you to hold onto the card for a longer period of time, increasing the value, and preventing you from getting spooked and selling.

[tjforce]

Man... the folks talking about the bubble ready to bust are in for a suprise.

Coming from the basketball world I can tell you that a lot of prices look like they have a looong way to go.

Put it this way: 0-time All star Jamal Murray PSA 10 Prizm rookies are going for $6-700.

$1200 for 6-time pro bowler and 1 time Super Bowl Champion Russell Wilson, who is entering the prime of his Hall of Fame career, looks like it has room to run if he performs.

I'm saying it now, if at any point this season Wilson is the league MVP favorite, or Seattle is being looked at as a Super Bowl favorite, a PSA 10 Topps Chrome rookie will hit $3,000.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Man... the folks talking about the bubble ready to bust are in for a suprise.

Coming from the basketball world I can tell you that a lot of prices look like they have a looong way to go.

Put it this way: 0-time All star Jamal Murray PSA 10 Prizm rookies are going for $6-700.

$1200 for 6-time pro bowler and 1 time Super Bowl Champion Russell Wilson, who is entering the prime of his Hall of Fame career, looks like it has room to run if he performs.

I'm saying it now, if at any point this season Wilson is the league MVP favorite, or Seattle is being looked at as a Super Bowl favorite, a PSA 10 Topps Chrome rookie will hit $3,000.

I agree RW cards are undervalued. But I wouldn't compare BB to Football. And The price jump HAS to be new people coming in to the hobby - Just watching the economy, personal debt, the speculation with no history or experience - they could all get burned and a big chunk leave at the same time.

Theres no logical reason Jamal Murray cards should be selling at that. So I blame lack of logic, or knowledge (aka new money coming to the party).

I won't mind if I'm wrong. I bought my key PSA cards in high grades for cheap. Good for me.

[AJPennSt]

Originally Posted by GoHawks25

Which is odd considering a PSA 10 Russell Wilson Topps Chrome AUTO PSA 10 just yesterday sold for $1200... A $200 difference (16.6%) for the autographed version. To put that in perspective a 2017 Prizm Patrick Mahomes AUTO PSA 10 most recently sold for $7500 on June 21st (and a probstein auction for $12,700 the same day) while a 2017 Prizm Patrick Mahomes Base PSA 10 sold for about $3400 back on June 21st... That’s a $4000+ difference (100%+) between the auto and non-auto version while only a couple hundred dollar difference for the Russell Wilson Auto and non-auto. There’s so much room to grow for the Topps Chrome Russell Wilson auto.

Interesting comparison - I've always wondered why the auto for Russell Wilson TC has lagged. I was pleasantly surprised when I went to buy the base and instead ended up with the auto. Have to think that has a long ways to go as far as growth and I'm here for it!

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[jzx1103]

Found a bunch of Russell Wilson Rcs in my closet a few months ago, stopped collecting in 2012 and just got back into it couple months ago, back in 2012 everyonewas chasing Luck and RG III and Wilson was an afterthought so I didn't pay much attention to them, wasn'teven aware I still had so many Rc of his. I'm glad I didn't just sell'em when I found them but now I'm anxiously waiting for them to return from PSA. Praying he has another monster year.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1392464

[jzx1103]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I agree RW cards are undervalued. But I wouldn't compare BB to Football. And The price jump HAS to be new people coming in to the hobby - Just watching the economy, personal debt, the speculation with no history or experience - they could all get burned and a big chunk leave at the same time.

Theres no logical reason Jamal Murray cards should be selling at that. So I blame lack of logic, or knowledge (aka new money coming to the party).

I won't mind if I'm wrong. I bought my key PSA cards in high grades for cheap. Good for me.

Jamal Murray is currently averaging 40 ppg in the playoffs and had multiple 50 point games already. He single handely brought the Nuggets back from a 3-1 deficit. That's why his cards went crazy.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by jzx1103

Jamal Murray is currently averaging 40 ppg in the playoffs and had multiple 50 point games already. He single handely brought the Nuggets back from a 3-1 deficit. That's why his cards went crazy.

And the week before that it was Lillard PSA 10 rookies going for $3,000

And the week before that Michael Porter Jr PSA 10 rookies going for $550

And the week before that Bol Bol PSA 10 Silvers going for $750

What do you guys think is going to happen to whoever gets hot this football season?

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by tjforce

And the week before that it was Lillard PSA 10 rookies going for $3,000

And the week before that Michael Porter Jr PSA 10 rookies going for $550

And the week before that Bol Bol PSA 10 Silvers going for $750

What do you guys think is going to happen to whoever gets hot this football season?

Outside of QBs? Nothing.

There's like 3-4 guys who have a chance to living up to their billing right now not named Mahomes, Jimmy G, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc. Those top their guys are already crazy high.

And we've already seen what happens to guys who peak and fall fast.

Not a lot of Andrew Luck or RGIII's in the NBA. Imagine if Zion played a few years, won nothing, then quit.

That's a LOT of dough lost.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I agree RW cards are undervalued. But I wouldn't compare BB to Football. And The price jump HAS to be new people coming in to the hobby - Just watching the economy, personal debt, the speculation with no history or experience - they could all get burned and a big chunk leave at the same time.

Theres no logical reason Jamal Murray cards should be selling at that. So I blame lack of logic, or knowledge (aka new money coming to the party).

I won't mind if I'm wrong. I bought my key PSA cards in high grades for cheap. Good for me.

I've been on the football forums pounding my fist on the table since April telling people that the market is about to explode. A lot of people have listened, but a lot have said 'well, can't compare football to basketball'. In the meantime I've used the fact that people have looked the other way to be able to amass what is now a 6-figure Mahomes/Brady collection from scratch by just buying up undervalued football stuff before most people noticed, then flipping it on up. I know of a lot of people doing the same and don't think it's going to stop anytime too soon.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Outside of QBs? Nothing.

There's like 3-4 guys who have a chance to living up to their billing right now not named Mahomes, Jimmy G, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc. Those top their guys are already crazy high.

And we've already seen what happens to guys who peak and fall fast.

Not a lot of Andrew Luck or RGIII's in the NBA. Imagine if Zion played a few years, won nothing, then quit.

That's a LOT of dough lost.

I'm not looking at buying and holding these guys for 20 years... I'm looking at buying these guys when nobody is looking, selling when they are hot, and parking that money into Mahomes, Brady, etc.

That's the game.


*And as a side not... go ahead and look up the prices of Hall of Fame WRs. Wait and see how much those prices have shot up.

[jzx1103]

Originally Posted by tjforce

And the week before that it was Lillard PSA 10 rookies going for $3,000

And the week before that Michael Porter Jr PSA 10 rookies going for $550

And the week before that Bol Bol PSA 10 Silvers going for $750

What do you guys think is going to happen to whoever gets hot this football season?

Yea the Bol Bol craze was a bit ridiculous, as for the others though.

- Michael Porter Jr was a potential #1 overall pick before his major injury. So he had the talent, so when he had 3 straight 30 and 15 games (or close to it) the first chance he got with major minutes. People thought he's finally getting the opportunity to show his potential.

- Damien Lillard is one of the Top Point Guards in the league and was underrated just like Russell Wilson imo. Then his skyrocketed after a hot playoff start.

- Jamal Murray wasn't some scrub either, averaged almost 19ppg this season and blew up in the playoffs.

[RW3isTHEGOAT]

lmao it is comical how long Russell Wilson was underrated... not only in the National Football League, but within the football card hobby itself. I have accumulated 24 Russell Wilson Topps Chrome RC PSA 10s over the years from $25-$115 from 2017 up until last Febuary. I never paid more than $115 for one..... The last one I bought was for $90 around mid February. Thats over a 10x return in 6 months... Has the Garyvee effect and sports card market boom helped Wilsons prices? Undoubtedly yes. Although, if anyone in the sports card hobby (from any sport of that matter) deserved a huge recognition/price increase within their cards, its Russell Wilson. 7x pro bowler, Super bowl champion, has never missed a game in his career, entering his prime at 31 years old while stating multiple times that he wants to play 10-15 more years. Besides maybe Mahomes, I think Russell Wilson is the best investment in football right now and has A LOT MORE room to grow. I have been buying his topps chrome rookie cards raw for as low as $5 ever since I got my ebay account in 2016. I'm currently sitting on a ton of Raw Chromes of his that I am going to be sending to PSA. Hoping for some 10s, but would not be disappointed with 9s as they seem to still hold very good value. I also PC Russ as he is my favorite athlete of all time, although if he wins another SB or MVP I may have to sell a handful of his Topps Chrome RC psa 10s to buy a new tesla

[RW3isTHEGOAT]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Man... the folks talking about the bubble ready to bust are in for a suprise.

Coming from the basketball world I can tell you that a lot of prices look like they have a looong way to go.

Put it this way: 0-time All star Jamal Murray PSA 10 Prizm rookies are going for $6-700.

$1200 for 6-time pro bowler and 1 time Super Bowl Champion Russell Wilson, who is entering the prime of his Hall of Fame career, looks like it has room to run if he performs.

I'm saying it now, if at any point this season Wilson is the league MVP favorite, or Seattle is being looked at as a Super Bowl favorite, a PSA 10 Topps Chrome rookie will hit $3,000.

agreed... I mean look at mannings topps chrome prices they have been going for 4-5K... If you look at Russ's stats and career outlook he will end up very close to manning in all the categories. The ceiling for Russell Wilson chrome cards are higher than snoop dog

[yanksfan1]

Maybe his 2010 Bowman Draft baseball cards can get a bump too lol

[RW3isTHEGOAT]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

Maybe his 2010 Bowman Draft baseball cards can get a bump too lol

lmao facts bro... honestly I am honestly kinda shocked they haven't gone up more

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I've been on the football forums pounding my fist on the table since April telling people that the market is about to explode. A lot of people have listened, but a lot have said 'well, can't compare football to basketball'. In the meantime I've used the fact that people have looked the other way to be able to amass what is now a 6-figure Mahomes/Brady collection from scratch by just buying up undervalued football stuff before most people noticed, then flipping it on up. I know of a lot of people doing the same and don't think it's going to stop anytime too soon.

Time will tell. Like I said - I bought high grade, low pop PSA key cards for peanuts (relatively speaking) so I'm good. I don't have the time to buy/flip - as long as you're not in the hobby for big money, and have flipped your way to a good collection, that's great.

I've only ever once see this kind of jump this fast in the sports card market, and it came crashing down pretty hard.

To put a finer point on it - I had a collection in a totally unrelated hobby and made ridiculous money selling it off this summer. The price spike and prices paid came out of nowhere. Could be easy come, easy go, too.

Again, I won't mind if I'm wrong. But don't be the guy left holding Jamal Murray cards or deep in prospects if the economy falters. At one point Beanie Babies were a smart investment. I'm just saying, be careful.

[RW3isTHEGOAT]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Outside of QBs? Nothing.

There's like 3-4 guys who have a chance to living up to their billing right now not named Mahomes, Jimmy G, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc. Those top their guys are already crazy high.

And we've already seen what happens to guys who peak and fall fast.

Not a lot of Andrew Luck or RGIII's in the NBA. Imagine if Zion played a few years, won nothing, then quit.

That's a LOT of dough lost.

Jimmy G has lived up to his billing more than Russell Wilson?

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by RW3isTHEGOAT

Jimmy G has lived up to his billing more than Russell Wilson?

Did I say that?

Read my post #9. Then shhhh.

[RW3isTHEGOAT]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Did I say that?

Read my post #9. Then shhhh.

gotchu... Thoughts on Gardner Minshew II though? Maybe big spike if he has a decent year and proves the Jags that they shouldn't tank for TL