What size toploaders and sleeves for recent Marvel sets?

[gosanostra]

I havent really used toploaders before(just binders) but Im getting back to collecting and noticed that recent sets have some thick cards, especially MM.

so what size would I need for sleeve+ toploader (or binder) for these sets:

2016 MM
2017 Fleer Ultra Spider-Man
2018 Fleet Ultra X-men
2018 MM
2019 Flair Marvel

I bought some recently only to discover they were 20pt...which is quite tight.

edit: oh yea I got some 1996 MM too, so for those old ones as well

thanks

[DynaEtch]

In my experience,

100pt toploaders work for all the thick new Marvel sets. This includes 2016 MM, 2018 MM, 2018 FUXM, 2017 FUSM. For penny sleeves, I use just regular penny sleeves, not the thick ones.

I actually have my 2016 MM and 2018 MM base sets in 9-pocket pages in a binder. This is a slightly abnormal approach, and the cards are definitely snug, but they appear to be fine stored that way. For all the inserts and parallels (purple, orange), I have them separately in 100pt toploaders or magnetics.
100pt magnetic I find are the best way to store high dollar 2016/2018 MM cards (like the base tier 4s etc)- not only is the presentation nice, but there is least chance to mess up a corner by putting it in the magnetic compared to penny sleeve.

2019 Flair Marvel is regular stock, so I just use regular toploaders for them. (is this 20pt or 35pt?). Whatever the normal ultra pro toploaders are that don't even list the pt size.

1996 MM is also regular stock, so normal toploaders for them.

[gosanostra]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

In my experience,

100pt toploaders work for all the thick new Marvel sets. This includes 2016 MM, 2018 MM, 2018 FUXM, 2017 FUSM. For penny sleeves, I use just regular penny sleeves, not the thick ones.

I actually have my 2016 MM and 2018 MM base sets in 9-pocket pages in a binder. This is a slightly abnormal approach, and the cards are definitely snug, but they appear to be fine stored that way. For all the inserts and parallels (purple, orange), I have them separately in 100pt toploaders or magnetics.
100pt magnetic I find are the best way to store high dollar 2016/2018 MM cards (like the base tier 4s etc)- not only is the presentation nice, but there is least chance to mess up a corner by putting it in the magnetic compared to penny sleeve.

2019 Flair Marvel is regular stock, so I just use regular toploaders for them. (is this 20pt or 35pt?). Whatever the normal ultra pro toploaders are that don't even list the pt size.

1996 MM is also regular stock, so normal toploaders for them.

Thanks for the input. Do you put the cards in a penny sleeve before toploaders? How about for the magnetic holders, I've seen people put a penny sleeve at the bottom just to keep the card snug.

For regular stock I tried to put a card in a penny sleeve then the regular ultra pro toploader(20pt), and it was too tight.

[DynaEtch]

Yep the thick cards go in a penny sleeve first, then 100pt toploader.

I use regular size penny sleeves- it can be difficult getting the card in safely, but a trick some people use is to cut a thin slit on one of the top corners of the penny sleeve along the edge, then the card slides in fine, no problem.

For magnetics, I do not use a penny sleeve- I find the fit with the 100pt magnetics is perfect as is.

I'm not sure about the regular size ones. You might be looking for 35pt, but I have several 2019 Flair and 1996 MM just in regular toploaders and they seem to be fine. The main 90s Marvel that I've found do not fit into normal toploaders are the slightly thicker Flair Marvel cards from 1994/1995.

Edit: the 2019 Marvel Flair are a bit snug in a regular toploader like you are saying. It is still doable if you slap the toploader against a hard surface to get the card down, but I agree may as well just get the next higher size toploader....which I guess is 35pt?

[jyk913]

Originally Posted by gosanostra

Thanks for the input. Do you put the cards in a penny sleeve before toploaders? How about for the magnetic holders, I've seen people put a penny sleeve at the bottom just to keep the card snug.

For regular stock I tried to put a card in a penny sleeve then the regular ultra pro toploader(20pt), and it was too tight.

With regards to FUSM, the epack combine cards (silver/rainbow and silver/rainbow web foils) sometimes the added reflective layer makes the card too thick to fit comfortably in a 100 pt toploader (or i just got a massive batch of horrible loaders.) As far as penny sleeves go, I've been using the Ultra Pro premium penny sleeves for thinner cards (25pt) and UP standard sleeves for 75-100pt cards, They're a bit more snug and even fit nicer in binder pages upside down for that extra bit of dust protection.

[gosanostra]

ok, thanks guys