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Old 01-30-2020, 02:25 PM   #1
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Still trying to wrap my head around the All Star Game changes.

The NBA announced major changes to the All-Star format on Thursday, turning every quarter into a mini-game for charity before an untimed final quarter with a target score that will decide which team wins. Scores will be reset — back to 0-0 — at the start of the second and third quarters, then restored to begin the fourth quarter.

That’s where the tribute to Bryant and the No. 24 jersey he wore for the last decade of his NBA career comes into play. The team that wins the All-Star Game will be the first to reach a target score, determined by the total points the team in the lead scored in the first three quarters combined — plus 24, the obvious nod to Bryant.

There’s at least $500,000 for charity at stake from the game alone. Each of the first three quarters is worth $100,000 — if there’s a tie, the money rolls over to the next quarter — and the final score is worth another $200,000. If one team sweeps all four quarters, the other team will receive $100,000 for its charity regardless.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:28 PM   #2
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Or they could just play 4 quarters like they've done for, ya know.. 70+ years?
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I saw this too. I don't really understand it. But I'm glad they're doing something. It's going to be an unforgettable All Star Game.

I'd also imagine Lebron is the heavy favorite to win MVP.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:30 PM   #4
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This is pretty stupid imo. I am all for the ceremony for Kobe and the charity but why adjust from an actual game. Just have the winner of the game donate to a certain charity?
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:31 PM   #5
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This is a special one time format to honor Kobe and not an ongoing thing, right?
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:32 PM   #6
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This is a special one time format to honor Kobe and not an ongoing thing, right?
If successful they are keeping this format moving forward but right now it is a 1 year change.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:35 PM   #7
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I appreciate that they are doing something in honor of Kobe and also awarding a bunch of money to local charities. And I get why they made the 4th quarter target score 24, but these All-Star games are crazy high scoring. It may only take a team 3-4 minutes to score 24 points.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:36 PM   #8
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I like it. The charity aspect works and I think the game will be more competitive, especially the entire last quarter.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:36 PM   #9
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I appreciate that they are doing something in honor of Kobe and also awarding a bunch of money to local charities. And I get why they made the 4th quarter target score 24, but these All-Star games are crazy high scoring. It may only take a team 3-4 minutes to score 24 points.
It is whatever score they determine PLUS 24. Super confusing.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:40 PM   #10
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If successful they are keeping this format moving forward but right now it is a 1 year change.
Thanks for the concise explanation in the OP, very straightforward. Most articles trying to explain stuff like this are too long and drawn out.

I'll admit I do miss the really competitive all star games of the early 2000s but I'm willing to give the new format a chance since the all star games haven't been too exciting lately, I do not know but maybe this will make people more willing to play defense which I'd like. My gut reaction to change is "no" but if the players take charity $ seriously perhaps it will actually bring back some competitiveness. Not sure how I feel about it but I'm not totally opposed to it.
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It is whatever score they determine PLUS 24. Super confusing.
determined by the total points the team in the lead scored in the first three quarters combined — plus 24

I read that as it will be whichever team has more points at the end of 3 quarters plus 24 so one team has to score only 24 points and the other team could need anywhere from 24 to infinite depending on what the score is. Almost like the elam ending in TBT.
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Props for being open to change.

But at the end of the day, they should play basketball.

They can have a tribute/ceremony to Kobe either pre-game, halftime, post-game.

And they should ball out in his honor. He worked hard, was a fierce competitor, and gave his best.

Best way to honor him is to do that.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:45 PM   #13
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It is whatever score they determine PLUS 24. Super confusing.
From what I understood, it is whatever the score of the highest scoring team is PLUS 24. So if it's 100-90 at the end of the 3rd, the first team to get to 124 in the 4th wins.

So no matter what, the team that is leading after 3 would only need to score 24 points in the 4th before the other team scores whatever they need to score (in the example above, the team losing would need to score 34 before the team winning scores 24). That might not take long. The 4th quarter could legitimately last less than 5 minutes.

It is super confusing for sure.
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Props for being open to change.

But at the end of the day, they should play basketball.

They can have a tribute/ceremony to Kobe either pre-game, halftime, post-game.

And they should ball out in his honor. He worked hard, was a fierce competitor, and gave his best.

Best way to honor him is to do that.
I also liked the idea of one team all wearing #8 and the other team all wearing #24. Simple way to honor him during the game on top of the things that you mentioned.
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Adam Silver seems intent on turning the league into a circus. League isn't enjoyable to watch anymore. Haven't been to a game in five years and don't intend to. Watch 3-5 games a year including playoffs. I just read box scores and checkout scouting videos to keep appraised of card trends.
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Old 01-30-2020, 02:57 PM   #16
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I think it’s a real cool idea, and if implemented to real games would be quite entertaining (no more intentional fouls due to time constraints)
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Old 01-30-2020, 03:06 PM   #17
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Absolutely ridiculous changes.

Complicated, confusing, and unnecessary.
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I don’t understand a damn thing I’ve read it over and over and had someone read it to me as well.
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Old 01-30-2020, 03:21 PM   #19
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I'm sorry but these changes sound stupid. I have no interest in watching whatever you want to call this mess. In my opinion it will be even less competitive than usual. It's also a lame attempt at best to honor Kobe. Very disappointing IMO.

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Old 01-30-2020, 03:25 PM   #20
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Took a page out of the 3v3 league for the 4th quarter. I really don't care about the changes, means nothing big picture.....just like every All-star game in every league(edit: wrong here, baseball is worth the watch).
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Old 01-30-2020, 03:28 PM   #21
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Don't like this format, but good for charity.
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Old 01-30-2020, 03:30 PM   #22
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I am way into this idea, and all of you guys saying you don't like this are also going to be into this game as these guys start playing real defense to not give up those 24 points to lose.
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Adam Silver seems intent on turning the league into a circus. League isn't enjoyable to watch anymore. Haven't been to a game in five years and don't intend to. Watch 3-5 games a year including playoffs. I just read box scores and checkout scouting videos to keep appraised of card trends.
It'd be interesting to see how fans would react to other types of changes. I personally like consistency, but feel like some changes are long over due. Not changes in the all star game, which I literally couldn't care less about. I haven't watched an AS game since I was a kid.

But I think some changes are necessary. The pendulum has swung too far in the direction of the offensive player in my opinion. I'd like to see defenses be able to do more. I want real battles.... not foul seeking behavior. An entire generation of players is going to grow up thinking about basketball greatness being what James Harden does.... and I know he's great. One of the best ever, but some of his antics are only valuable because of the way the rules are written and the way the game is called. Change the rules. I should say FIX the rules.

Stepping off soap box.... now.
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I appreciate that they are doing something in honor of Kobe and also awarding a bunch of money to local charities. And I get why they made the 4th quarter target score 24, but these All-Star games are crazy high scoring. It may only take a team 3-4 minutes to score 24 points.
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determined by the total points the team in the lead scored in the first three quarters combined — plus 24

I read that as it will be whichever team has more points at the end of 3 quarters plus 24 so one team has to score only 24 points and the other team could need anywhere from 24 to infinite depending on what the score is. Almost like the elam ending in TBT.
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From what I understood, it is whatever the score of the highest scoring team is PLUS 24. So if it's 100-90 at the end of the 3rd, the first team to get to 124 in the 4th wins.

So no matter what, the team that is leading after 3 would only need to score 24 points in the 4th before the other team scores whatever they need to score (in the example above, the team losing would need to score 34 before the team winning scores 24). That might not take long. The 4th quarter could legitimately last less than 5 minutes.

It is super confusing for sure.
Count me in these guys. Why the heck shorten the game so much to a 4 minute 4th quarter? Idiotic. How does a significantly shortened game help anything, revenue, entertainment, etc. I can't believe these dudes sat in a room and thought this would be great. The all-star team isn't the freaking Knicks.
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Count me in these guys. Why the heck shorten the game so much to a 4 minute 4th quarter? Idiotic. How does a significantly shortened game help anything, revenue, entertainment, etc. I can't believe these dudes sat in a room and thought this would be great. The all-star team isn't the freaking Knicks.
Yep. Especially when you consider the fourth quarter of the all-star game is always must see tv. Why ruin it?

I get ppl that think the all star game has fallen off, but these changes only worsen it imo. Their heart is in the right place, but this is bad minus the charitable aspect which they can just do without making it a part of the actual game.
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