***Perennial Precious Metal Gems Thread***

[UD HighGloss]

Want to create a thread dedicated to Hockey Precious Metal Gems. Partially to feed my obsession with these specific cards, but also to:

Show off PMG’s, discuss prices, trends, predictions and be an archive for these cards.


To start off let me show a recent pick up I have posted on IG and Reddit.

2015-16 Fleer Showcase Eichel PMG Purple 5/5. Will be grading it with Beckett or PSA in the future.




Full disclosure on price as you can look it up on watchcount anyways: $400USD.


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[PensChronicles]

They are very cool cards, but to me, the lack of there being an actual Precious Metal Gems issued in the mid-90's that would've included Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Roy, Brodeur, etc. hinders the demand for these cards in the modern-era.

For example, the 2012-13 PMG's of Crosby, Malkin & Lemieux are relatively easily obtained and at reasonable prices. I think had there been an original release in the mid-90's - like the Metal Universe in basketball - these would be more desirable.

In my opinion, the 1996-97 Metal Ice Carvings Super Power cards are the hockey equivalent of what the PMG's are to basketball. Although not #'d /10, they were inserted at a ratio of 1:240 I believe.

[redwingsfan11]

Both those Lemieux and Eichel are beauties! I'll try to give a little boost in the few I own as well.

Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Violet /5 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr
Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Emerald /10 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

If you know where 20/50 is Please LMK =)
Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Blue /50 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Red /150 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

Anthony Mantha 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Violet /5 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr
Anthony Mantha 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems /10 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr


Jersey Numbered 39/50
Anthony Mantha 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Blue 39/50 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

Dylan Larkin 15/16 UD Fleer Showcase Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems [PMG] Green /10 {BGS 9} by Timothy Wong, on Flickr
Dylan Larkin 15/16 UD Fleer Precious Metal Gems Red /150 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

[creasecollector]

Gotta love the Gems.

I only have one of these and it's in my Marc-Andre Fleury PC:

2012 Red

[progfan86]

2013-14 Fleer Showcase - Metal Universe - Precious Metal Gems Green #MU-10 - Brendan Gallagher /10
Courtesy of COMC.com

[SNobles]

The only Roy I have from the 12-13 year:

2012-13 Fleer Retro Metal Universe 33 Precious Metal Gems Red 77 100 by Scott Nobles, on Flickr

The best Roy I have from the 2013-14 year:

2013-14 Fleer Showcase Metal Universe MU37 Precious Metal Gems Green 10 10 (1) by Scott Nobles, on Flickr

[UD HighGloss]

Originally Posted by PensChronicles

They are very cool cards, but to me, the lack of there being an actual Precious Metal Gems issued in the mid-90's that would've included Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Roy, Brodeur, etc. hinders the demand for these cards in the modern-era.

For example, the 2012-13 PMG's of Crosby, Malkin & Lemieux are relatively easily obtained and at reasonable prices. I think had there been an original release in the mid-90's - like the Metal Universe in basketball - these would be more desirable.

In my opinion, the 1996-97 Metal Ice Carvings Super Power cards are the hockey equivalent of what the PMG's are to basketball. Although not #'d /10, they were inserted at a ratio of 1:240 I believe.

I am curious if you can see the modern PMG's having the same trend as the 90's. From what I've discussed and seen, the 90's PMG's took a decade + to really garner the interest and bulk value that they currently hold. Could you see the PMG's (especially the original designs to Hockey, 15-16 & 16-17) garnering that trend 10+ years from now, once the people who collected/opened Fleer hockey as a kid or young adult have proper disposable income? Obviously not on the scale of other sports but in relative terms.

Also, do not have a Super Powers and need one badly!

Originally Posted by redwingsfan11

Both those Lemieux and Eichel are beauties! I'll try to give a little boost in the few I own as well.

Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Violet /5 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr
Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Emerald /10 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

If you know where 20/50 is Please LMK =)
Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Blue /50 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

Sebastian Aho 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Red /150 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

Anthony Mantha 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Violet /5 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr
Anthony Mantha 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems /10 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr


Jersey Numbered 39/50
Anthony Mantha 16/17 UD Fleer Showcase Precious Metal Gems Blue 39/50 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

Dylan Larkin 15/16 UD Fleer Showcase Metal Universe Precious Metal Gems [PMG] Green /10 {BGS 9} by Timothy Wong, on Flickr
Dylan Larkin 15/16 UD Fleer Precious Metal Gems Red /150 (1) by Timothy Wong, on Flickr

You should know how jealous I am of those Purple's & Green's! Still have 0 for all of those players.

Originally Posted by creasecollector

Gotta love the Gems.

I only have one of these and it's in my Marc-Andre Fleury PC:

2012 Red

Can't go wrong with the classic red from the original design.

Originally Posted by progfan86

2013-14 Fleer Showcase - Metal Universe - Precious Metal Gems Green #MU-10 - Brendan Gallagher /10
Courtesy of COMC.com

If this is the one that was at auction a month or two ago, great pick up. I got beat on bids and still sour about it.

Originally Posted by SNobles

The only Roy I have from the 12-13 year:

2012-13 Fleer Retro Metal Universe 33 Precious Metal Gems Red 77 100 by Scott Nobles, on Flickr

The best Roy I have from the 2013-14 year:

2013-14 Fleer Showcase Metal Universe MU37 Precious Metal Gems Green 10 10 (1) by Scott Nobles, on Flickr

The green

[senorlaverga]

cards by David Lauber, on Flickr

[gregggyf]

Good Evening,

I asked a question in the past and I am not sure if it was on this site... but the question was can someone please list the Precious Metal Gems by year going from most condition sensitive to least condition sensitive.

Thank you very much.

[UD HighGloss]

Originally Posted by gregggyf

Good Evening,

I asked a question in the past and I am not sure if it was on this site... but the question was can someone please list the Precious Metal Gems by year going from most condition sensitive to least condition sensitive.

Thank you very much.

For Hockey? These are my picks from most condition sensitive to least:


2012-13 Fleer retro
2015-16 Fleer Showcase
2016-17 Fleer Showcase
2013-14 Fleer Showcase
2014-15 Fleer Showcase


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[UD HighGloss]

A few personal favourites I own. If I ever get the funds to pick up a Green or Purple I would in a heartbeat.







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[gregggyf]

Hello UD HighGloss,

By seeing how you typed out the reply I believe it was you who gave that same reply not to long ago, I just can't remember what thread it was under.

Thank you very much for the information.

[Starman101]

I agree modern hockey PMGs do not have the same allure as they have no follow up given no 90s hockey PMGs

With that being said the 96 Metal Super Power inserts are aesthetically as close as you can get card design wise to a 90s Hockey PMG

While not serial numbered or nearly as rare they are just beautiful cards if you are looking for that type of 90s PMGesque card design in 90s hockey

Ive alluded to this in my prior posts

I own Super Power versions of all the 96 Metal inserts and they are just stellar cards in hand

Especially the Ice Carvings Super Power versions though there is no Gretzky in the set

Imo they as well as the 98-99 Bowmans Best Atomics are probably the sweetest looking 90s inserts / parallels ever made imo

As rare....no

But those things just glow like a PMG

Alot of the greatest 97-98 basketball designs were used a year earlier in many 96-97 hockey sets

Another example being the 96-97 Game Jerseys which did not hit basketball until the following year in 97-98

The Lemieux and Fedorov SP Ice Carvings above are great cards and are still very affordable

[Starman101]

Originally Posted by PensChronicles

They are very cool cards, but to me, the lack of there being an actual Precious Metal Gems issued in the mid-90's that would've included Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Roy, Brodeur, etc. hinders the demand for these cards in the modern-era.

For example, the 2012-13 PMG's of Crosby, Malkin & Lemieux are relatively easily obtained and at reasonable prices. I think had there been an original release in the mid-90's - like the Metal Universe in basketball - these would be more desirable.

In my opinion, the 1996-97 Metal Ice Carvings Super Power cards are the hockey equivalent of what the PMG's are to basketball. Although not #'d /10, they were inserted at a ratio of 1:240 I believe.

Spot on

Agree on all points

[UD HighGloss]

Some notable PMG sales in the last week:

$60 - '13/14 Kane PMG Blue /25 PSA 9
$225 - '15/16 McDavid PMG Blue 18/50 BGS 8.5
$45 - '16/17 Weber PMG Green 6/10 (Jersey #)
$105 - '16/17 Kane PMG Purple 2/5
$70 - '16/17 Kane PMG Green /10
$70 - '16/17 Tarasenko PMG Purple 1/5

Have been tracking and logging all sales of notable PMG's since October, 2019. Oh, the Tarasenko was bought by me as well, have to grab my purples!

[PatchSentinel]

$7.00 delivered.

[UD HighGloss]

Originally Posted by PatchSentinel

$7.00 delivered.

Great pick up!

Won’t lie though, I am not high on/a fan of Domi.


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[creasecollector]

Originally Posted by PatchSentinel

$7.00 delivered.

Nice snag!

[creasecollector]

Originally Posted by senorlaverga

cards by David Lauber, on Flickr

Love the Brodeur Green!

[UD HighGloss]

A favourite that has been sitting in my PC for a while. Curious what this would go for now, last PMG green Crosby BGS 9 (2014-15) was sold a while ago by Probstein @ $275.




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[creasecollector]

Awesome Crosby! I love it when insert cards in hockey go for big money.

[UD HighGloss]

Thought I'd update this thread and provide some transparency on a sale I made involving my raw 2016-17 Auston Matthews Rookie PMG Purple /5. This can give you an insight into how the PMG market is trending for hockey.

I sold it for $1750 CDN about a week ago. That comes to about $1250 USD at the time.

Not a sale I wanted to make but I got asking price and it funded a card I have been looking at for over a year. I also know where 3 of 5 of the Matthews copies are located, so I could possibly grab one again before I really regret selling.

[gregggyf]

Good Evening.

For the purpose of information.....

As mentioned by Upper Deck's Billy Celio on the Center Ice Card Cast in 2021 PMG's will be produce by Upper Deck.

One color will have a numbering from 1 - 10 and the second color will be numbered from 11 - (either 99 or 100).

That is all.... : )

[mooneyes]

Love the look of PMG's...nice to see some value in them, although I did get a rc year Chabot/50 for $4.00. Not much love for D-men in the hobby.


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[UD HighGloss]

Originally Posted by gregggyf

Good Evening.

For the purpose of information.....

As mentioned by Upper Deck's Billy Celio on the Center Ice Card Cast in 2021 PMG's will be produce by Upper Deck.

One color will have a numbering from 1 - 10 and the second color will be numbered from 11 - (either 99 or 100).

That is all.... : )

I am very much looking forward to the release of the product. Will be the only Hockey wax I will have ripped within the past 4 years.


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