First Buzz: 2020 Topps Allen & Ginter baseball cards

BlowoutBuzz · 01-23-2020, 10:57 AM

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calculusdork · 01-23-2020, 10:59 AM

Digging the design on the autos.

Hollywood42 · 01-23-2020, 11:00 AM

This has a very 2009 A&G feel to it, and I love it. That was my favorite year of Ginter aesthetically speaking

NYY1 · 01-23-2020, 11:03 AM

It reminds me of the 2011 Kimball champions insert set / 2009. It looks good.. but not in love with those massive borders.

BlowoutBuzz · 01-23-2020, 11:06 AM

Added some of the insert details.

Bigbrian18 · 01-23-2020, 11:37 AM

Love the look. Can't wait to see in person!

PumpnDumpling · 01-23-2020, 11:52 AM

They absolutely nailed it on the auto/relic/insert design

Having said that i may pick up singles but have pretty much stopped buying this in wax form out side of a random box or blaster (maybe 1 every 1-2 years lol) as it has not treated me well for the past ten years or so

All in on Ginter X though

bchynoweth · 01-23-2020, 11:54 AM

As a rock guy as well, I dig the Digging Deep insert set...

mfw13 · 01-23-2020, 12:49 PM

Meh.....design is pretty much the same as every other year of Ginter.

Product should have been retired several years ago.

coachnip13 · 01-23-2020, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Meh.....design is pretty much the same as every other year of Ginter.

Product should have been retired several years ago.

^^ This is shocking.

calculusdork · 01-23-2020, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

^^ This is shocking.

PhillySportsPNW · 01-23-2020, 01:12 PM

Gorgeous design. I love it.

Question for any AG experts: Given you get three hits per box, any idea how many autos per box that typically works out? I'd guess one auto and two other hits, but I'm curious if anyone has done some research here.

Also, how's the ROI on regular Ginter compared to Ginter X? I broke about six cases of Ginter X and they were a constant money maker at $70 or so per box. How does regular Ginter do at about $100 per?

Thanks guys

speedyjg13 · 01-23-2020, 01:23 PM

Damn... the design is legit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

notoriousrmb · 01-23-2020, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillySportsPNW

Gorgeous design. I love it.

Question for any AG experts: Given you get three hits per box, any idea how many autos per box that typically works out? I'd guess one auto and two other hits, but I'm curious if anyone has done some research here.

Also, how's the ROI on regular Ginter compared to Ginter X? I broke about six cases of Ginter X and they were a constant money maker at $70 or so per box. How does regular Ginter do at about $100 per?

Thanks guys

Ginter has never averaged an auto per box, usually around 4 autos per case.

No, it is not a money maker, its a product to be opened for fun.

travuw · 01-23-2020, 02:00 PM

Almost $1200 out of the gate? No thanks...

Noles939913 · 01-23-2020, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

They absolutely nailed it on the auto/relic/insert design

Having said that i may pick up singles but have pretty much stopped buying this in wax form out side of a random box or blaster (maybe 1 every 1-2 years lol) as it has not treated me well for the past ten years or so

All in on Ginter X though

What’s the difference? Honest question.

dodgerfanjohn · 01-23-2020, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Noles939913

What’s the difference? Honest question.

X has a limited print run. So there’s value in any Rookies, with the 2017 Judge selling at $30 at one time. Up until this past year you could sell the mini X cards at a couple bucks each. And then the red and silver parallels. Finally the autos numbered /25.

For regular Ginter, nearly all the relics are worthless and most of the autos are not worth much. Furthermore, the base cards and inserts don’t sell well. It’s a fun product, but not at all a money maker.

BlowoutBuzz · 01-23-2020, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillySportsPNW

Gorgeous design. I love it.

Question for any AG experts: Given you get three hits per box, any idea how many autos per box that typically works out? I'd guess one auto and two other hits, but I'm curious if anyone has done some research here.

Unfortunately, Ginter has never guaranteed an auto in every box. I'd buy a ton more if it did.

mouschi · 01-23-2020, 03:10 PM

Imagine a design so good that it is done over and over again for 14 years running ... and it was taken from among the first baseball card sets ever!

I'll always love Allen & Ginter. It still amazes me that one of the most popular releases each year is actually a remake of quite possibly the first nationally distributed color baseball card set ever nearly 150 years ago. Topps does a good job with changing up the design a bit, but it is undeniable that the original timeless design from the 1800s is the design engine.

Kudos to the 19th century A&G designers, and kudos to Topps for continuing its legacy!

hairysasquatch · 01-23-2020, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by calculusdork

Digging the design on the autos.

It's so different from other years!

tier1dc · 01-23-2020, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

It's so different from other years!

1st of it's kind.

PDCCollectibles · 01-23-2020, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

^^ This is shocking.

Ha, well played...love this design. We just need HeritageKing to make this an official BO Ginter thread

ThoseBackPages · 01-23-2020, 05:25 PM

AllRise99 · 01-23-2020, 06:10 PM

1/1 stained glass variation minis...I like

Stech36 · 01-23-2020, 06:14 PM

This announcement made me go to my LCS and buy a box. 3 relics.. a good reminder to only buy cases of this stuff

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mouschi Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Swimming in a million cards Posts: 9,649 tnhjones	Imagine a design so good that it is done over and over again for 14 years running ... and it was taken from among the first baseball card sets ever! I'll always love Allen & Ginter. It still amazes me that one of the most popular releases each year is actually a remake of quite possibly the first nationally distributed color baseball card set ever nearly 150 years ago. Topps does a good job with changing up the design a bit, but it is undeniable that the original timeless design from the 1800s is the design engine. Kudos to the 19th century A&G designers, and kudos to Topps for continuing its legacy! __________________ Tanner Jones, Author of Confessions of a Baseball Card Addict

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01-23-2020, 10:59 AM	#2
calculusdork Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nowheresville Posts: 26,683 calculusdork calculusdork	Digging the design on the autos.

01-23-2020, 11:03 AM	#4
NYY1 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 738	It reminds me of the 2011 Kimball champions insert set / 2009. It looks good.. but not in love with those massive borders.

01-23-2020, 11:37 AM	#6
Bigbrian18 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 51 bigbrian18	Love the look. Can't wait to see in person!

01-23-2020, 11:52 AM	#7
PumpnDumpling Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: USA Posts: 2,915 Super-Hobby Woody615	They absolutely nailed it on the auto/relic/insert design Having said that i may pick up singles but have pretty much stopped buying this in wax form out side of a random box or blaster (maybe 1 every 1-2 years lol) as it has not treated me well for the past ten years or so All in on Ginter X though

01-23-2020, 11:54 AM	#8
bchynoweth Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Lafayette, IN Posts: 3,204 cabhed	As a rock guy as well, I dig the Digging Deep insert set...

01-23-2020, 12:49 PM	#9
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,304	Meh.....design is pretty much the same as every other year of Ginter. Product should have been retired several years ago.

01-23-2020, 01:12 PM	#12
PhillySportsPNW Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 59 nyctribe	Gorgeous design. I love it. Question for any AG experts: Given you get three hits per box, any idea how many autos per box that typically works out? I'd guess one auto and two other hits, but I'm curious if anyone has done some research here. Also, how's the ROI on regular Ginter compared to Ginter X? I broke about six cases of Ginter X and they were a constant money maker at $70 or so per box. How does regular Ginter do at about $100 per? Thanks guys

01-23-2020, 01:23 PM	#13
speedyjg13 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 17,207	Damn... the design is legit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-23-2020, 02:00 PM	#15
travuw Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 173	Almost $1200 out of the gate? No thanks...

01-23-2020, 06:10 PM	#24
AllRise99 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New York Posts: 118	1/1 stained glass variation minis...I like

01-23-2020, 06:14 PM	#25
Stech36 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 9,540 Stech36	This announcement made me go to my LCS and buy a box. 3 relics.. a good reminder to only buy cases of this stuff