Patriots post-Brady

jrouth22 · 12-31-2019, 07:54 PM

Food for thought -- from a collecting/investing standpoint, is it wise to view Jarret Stidham as Tom Brady's eventual replacement? Or would you cash in on the speculation now or in the near future and assume the Pats go in a different direction (i.e., Josh Rosen)?

I'm only holding one real Stidham piece, but I worry about his longterm viability and how the Patriots view him (as a journeyman/permanent backup or the successor).

Forgive me if this has been discussed.

altaeria · 12-31-2019, 08:09 PM

They should sign Nick Foles.

coltsnsox07 · 12-31-2019, 08:10 PM

They can have Brissett back...

SleeperCards · 12-31-2019, 08:11 PM

I've seen the future, but I've been sworn to secrecy.

Truth is no one really knows. Signing Kessler the game after Stidham threw an INT scared me, but from what I understand they brought Kessler in to run the scout team. No one knows what's going on in New England. Some say if Bill had his way Jimmy would be QBing the Pats through the playoffs right now.

E B · 12-31-2019, 08:15 PM

I dont think Josh Rosen is very good. Stidham they were supposedly high on but I dont think scouts loved him coming out of college.

I think Stidham could pan out. If Brady moves on next year I'm not sure what other options are out there. Case Keenum? Marcus Mariota? Jameis Winston? Maybe Stidham has enough to win the job.

Of course Brady coming back is still in the cards as well.

BeastMode27 · 12-31-2019, 09:53 PM

Depends on if Stidham found some of the spice melange.

Stifle · 01-01-2020, 12:12 AM

Once Brady leaves, the Patriots will need to hire a competent GM. The Coach is a genius but the other half of his duties are lacking at best.

MRSPORTSCARD · 01-01-2020, 12:26 AM

I am pretty sure Tom Brady will come back for one more year. They went 12-4, without Brady they are a .500 team at best as they have no replacement for TB. If they kept Jimmy G it be different.

nomarkj · 01-01-2020, 12:31 AM

A few recent articles suggest that Stidham is making some nice strides. Seems like a nice reasonably priced investment option to me.

MRSPORTSCARD · 01-01-2020, 12:32 AM

Yeah, The Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, and Texans beat the Patriots but 3 of those games could have went either way. It wasn't like they were blown out. The Dolphins beat them by 3, Chiefs by a touchdown(7), and Texans by 6.
It wasn't like they were getting clobbered. Only the Ravens crushed them. I would say the Ravens should be favored to win it all.

davidantx · 01-01-2020, 12:50 AM

I bet they go after Mariota

RedSoxFan28 · 01-01-2020, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MRSPORTSCARD

Yeah, The Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, and Texans beat the Patriots but 3 of those games could have went either way. It wasn't like they were blown out. The Dolphins beat them by 3, Chiefs by a touchdown(7), and Texans by 6.
It wasn't like they were getting clobbered. Only the Ravens crushed them. I would say the Ravens should be favored to win it all.

Patriots had momentum until Edelman's fumble 6, wouldve made it interesting if they scored on that drive.

santana5747 · 01-01-2020, 08:33 AM

Teddy Bridgewater?

JeremyNick · 01-01-2020, 12:36 PM

I would not invest in Stidham. His prices are already high for a backup and according to Pats fans that team has zero talent, should he have to take over.

Glebe · 01-01-2020, 01:39 PM

I think they are going to go out and grab Josh Rosen, put him behind brady for another year maybe 2. Brady and Bellicheck retire and Rosen & McDaniels give it a whirl.

oplum29 · 01-01-2020, 04:29 PM

i really believe if McDaniels stays, that the Pats will get a vet and bring him in, like Andy Dalton or maybe Josh Rosen if he's released. I don't know about Stiddham, and like someone said, his prices are already kinda high.

Glebe · 01-01-2020, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oplum29

i really believe if McDaniels stays, that the Pats will get a vet and bring him in, like Andy Dalton or maybe Josh Rosen if he's released. I don't know about Stiddham, and like someone said, his prices are already kinda high.

I think McDaniels will stay - I think last season made it pretty obvious.... they lured him back in and said HC job is yours when this runs over.

dio · 01-01-2020, 07:21 PM

I think so too. Brady and Belichek might retired together.

bamafan3559 · 01-02-2020, 12:22 PM

While I don't think he will come out this year after having a pretty average season, I think they should go after Fromm. He's a great rhythm passer that would fit their system well.

RedSoxFan28 · 01-02-2020, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bamafan3559

While I don't think he will come out this year after having a pretty average season, I think they should go after Fromm. He's a great rhythm passer that would fit their system well.

Wanted Fromm for the past couple of years. Glad he had a "down year" and will likely be available when they pick if he declares. If Brady stays and signs a multi year deal, I dont see a need to pick a QB early, but if he retires would like to see them draft Fromm.

The Accountant · 01-02-2020, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by altaeria

They should sign Nick Foles.

that would be wild

oplum29 · 01-02-2020, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dio

I think so too. Brady and Belichek might retired together.

that's what everybody thought about Duncan and Popovich from the Spurs, but Pop is still coaching, and Duncan too.

so who knows? I really believe that at some point, the Patriots will be taken over by Josh McDaniels, Belichick is grooming him in some fashion the way Parcels did with him.

oplum29 · 01-02-2020, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bamafan3559

While I don't think he will come out this year after having a pretty average season, I think they should go after Fromm. He's a great rhythm passer that would fit their system well.

imagine Jacob Eason being a Patriot? i wonder if that would bring back good or bad memories, to see an Eason at QB again for NE. lol

fungi2510 · 01-02-2020, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I would not invest in Stidham. His prices are already high for a backup and according to Pats fans that team has zero talent, should he have to take over.

I think investing in him now is a great idea. Sell off when Brady retires. Those cards are going to skyrocket for a short period. Not a long term hold, but if anything happens to Brady, Stidham's prices are going to be silly for a bit.

Astros19 · 01-02-2020, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fungi2510

I think investing in him now is a great idea. Sell off when Brady retires. Those cards are going to skyrocket for a short period. Not a long term hold, but if anything happens to Brady, Stidham's prices are going to be silly for a bit.

I have a Playoff Contenders Preview auto #'d /23 I'm sitting on thinking this exact thing.
He may end up a bust, but I think it's safe to say that once he's put in the lineup, his cards will indeed skyrocket for a while.

12-31-2019, 07:54 PM	#1
jrouth22 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 263	Patriots post-Brady Food for thought -- from a collecting/investing standpoint, is it wise to view Jarret Stidham as Tom Brady's eventual replacement? Or would you cash in on the speculation now or in the near future and assume the Pats go in a different direction (i.e., Josh Rosen)? I'm only holding one real Stidham piece, but I worry about his longterm viability and how the Patriots view him (as a journeyman/permanent backup or the successor). Forgive me if this has been discussed.

01-01-2020, 12:12 AM	#7
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,292 Stifle	Once Brady leaves, the Patriots will need to hire a competent GM. The Coach is a genius but the other half of his duties are lacking at best. Last edited by Stifle; 01-01-2020 at 08:04 AM.

01-01-2020, 08:33 AM	#13
santana5747 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 972 vacations04	Teddy Bridgewater? __________________ Always looking for Patrick Mahomes, Juan Soto I only ship to the U.S.

01-01-2020, 04:29 PM	#16
oplum29 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 10,405	i really believe if McDaniels stays, that the Pats will get a vet and bring him in, like Andy Dalton or maybe Josh Rosen if he's released. I don't know about Stiddham, and like someone said, his prices are already kinda high. __________________ "got em, got em, need em, got em, got em, need em, got em" - Little Monsters

12-31-2019, 08:09 PM	#2
altaeria Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: CenterCityPhiladelphia Posts: 1,934 altaeria altaeria	They should sign Nick Foles.

12-31-2019, 08:10 PM	#3
coltsnsox07 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 21,897	They can have Brissett back...

12-31-2019, 08:11 PM	#4
SleeperCards Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The Internet Posts: 16,057 SleeperCards Sleeper	I've seen the future, but I've been sworn to secrecy. Truth is no one really knows. Signing Kessler the game after Stidham threw an INT scared me, but from what I understand they brought Kessler in to run the scout team. No one knows what's going on in New England. Some say if Bill had his way Jimmy would be QBing the Pats through the playoffs right now.

12-31-2019, 08:15 PM	#5
E B Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 503	I dont think Josh Rosen is very good. Stidham they were supposedly high on but I dont think scouts loved him coming out of college. I think Stidham could pan out. If Brady moves on next year I'm not sure what other options are out there. Case Keenum? Marcus Mariota? Jameis Winston? Maybe Stidham has enough to win the job. Of course Brady coming back is still in the cards as well.

12-31-2019, 09:53 PM	#6
BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	Depends on if Stidham found some of the spice melange.

01-01-2020, 12:26 AM	#8
MRSPORTSCARD Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 1,796	I am pretty sure Tom Brady will come back for one more year. They went 12-4, without Brady they are a .500 team at best as they have no replacement for TB. If they kept Jimmy G it be different.

01-01-2020, 12:31 AM	#9
nomarkj Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 849 nomarj	A few recent articles suggest that Stidham is making some nice strides. Seems like a nice reasonably priced investment option to me.

01-01-2020, 12:32 AM	#10
MRSPORTSCARD Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 1,796	Yeah, The Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, and Texans beat the Patriots but 3 of those games could have went either way. It wasn't like they were blown out. The Dolphins beat them by 3, Chiefs by a touchdown(7), and Texans by 6. It wasn't like they were getting clobbered. Only the Ravens crushed them. I would say the Ravens should be favored to win it all.

01-01-2020, 12:50 AM	#11
davidantx Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: DFW! Posts: 936 davidan davidantx	I bet they go after Mariota

01-01-2020, 12:36 PM	#14
JeremyNick Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 22,801	I would not invest in Stidham. His prices are already high for a backup and according to Pats fans that team has zero talent, should he have to take over.

01-01-2020, 01:39 PM	#15
Glebe Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 973	I think they are going to go out and grab Josh Rosen, put him behind brady for another year maybe 2. Brady and Bellicheck retire and Rosen & McDaniels give it a whirl.

01-01-2020, 07:21 PM	#18
dio Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: california, bay area Posts: 395 dioworld	I think so too. Brady and Belichek might retired together.

01-02-2020, 12:22 PM	#19
bamafan3559 Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN Posts: 1,388 bamafan3559	While I don't think he will come out this year after having a pretty average season, I think they should go after Fromm. He's a great rhythm passer that would fit their system well.