2020 HOF Tracker...

[gmoney328]

Interesting what I found. These are results with 9.5% of the ballots known.

Thoughts?

Derek Jeter 100.0%
Larry Walker 84.6%
Curt Schilling 79.5%
Barry Bonds 76.9%
Roger Clemens 76.9%
Omar Vizquel 48.7%
Manny Ramirez 46.2%
Scott Rolen 38.5%
Jeff Kent 35.9%
Todd Helton 35.9%
Gary Sheffield 25.6%
Billy Wagner 25.6%
Andruw Jones 20.5%
Andy Pettitte 17.9%
Sammy Sosa 17.9%
Bobby Abreu 5.1%
Eric Chávez 0.0%
Rafael Furcal 0.0%
Jason Giambi 0.0%
Paul Konerko 0.0%
Cliff Lee 0.0%
Alfonso Soriano 0.0%
Josh Beckett 0.0%
Heath Bell 0.0%
Adam Dunn 0.0%
Chone Figgins 0.0%
Raúl Ibañez 0.0%
Carlos Peña 0.0%
Brad Penny 0.0%
JJ Putz 0.0%
Brian Roberts 0.0%
José Valverde 0.0%

[SupermanBrandon]

Helton deserves to be in the HOF. I don't care what anyone says!

[jrosales]

I'm glad to see Rolen's support increasing every year.

[bavariancream]

Random thoughts:

- Walker has been trending up, and I think he will get in.
- The debate on Bonds and/or Clemens will continue.
- Helton seems to suffer from a bias against Colorado hitters, but put up good (albeit lower) numbers on the road also.
- I would guess Pettite and Sheffield will trend upward.
- IMO, Andruw Jones does not belong in HOF. Fun player, but .254 BA hurts.

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by bavariancream

Random thoughts:

- Walker has been trending up, and I think he will get in.
- The debate on Bonds and/or Clemens will continue.
- Helton seems to suffer from a bias against Colorado hitters, but put up good (albeit lower) numbers on the road also.
- I would guess Pettite and Sheffield will trend upward.
- IMO, Andruw Jones does not belong in HOF. Fun player, but .254 BA hurts.

Agree on Walker. I think Bonds and Clemens might both actually get in this year. Helton might be a LONG wait. Andruw won't make it.

Also interesting to see Schilling doing well early. I think he might get in, if he can shut his mouth until the voting is done. Otherwise, who knows?

Kind of surprised to see the up-trend for ManRam. TWICE busted for PEDs. I wonder if he'll come back down once more votes are known?

[80pc]

Originally Posted by jrosales

I'm glad to see Rolen's support increasing every year.

Me too. I'm hoping for Wagner at some point also.

[rats60]

These numbers suggest a one man class. The public ballots normally over state players numbers by ~10% at the top. Last year Bonds, Clemens and Walker's actual totals were 11%+ less than the public ballot totals, Schilling was 9% less. People that don't make their ballots public often vote for fewer players, even blank ballots or ballots with just Jeter.

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by rats60

These numbers suggest a one man class. The public ballots normally over state players numbers by ~10% at the top. Last year Bonds, Clemens and Walker's actual totals were 11%+ less than the public ballot totals, Schilling was 9% less. People that don't make their ballots public often vote for fewer players, even blank ballots or ballots with just Jeter.

I didn't know this. That obviously doesn't bode well for most of these guys then, like you said. I guess we shall see...

[smanzari]

Originally Posted by rats60

These numbers suggest a one man class. The public ballots normally over state players numbers by ~10% at the top. Last year Bonds, Clemens and Walker's actual totals were 11%+ less than the public ballot totals, Schilling was 9% less. People that don't make their ballots public often vote for fewer players, even blank ballots or ballots with just Jeter.

Pretty sure its only Jeets this year

[bronxburner24]

Originally Posted by gmoney328

I think Bonds and Clemens might both actually get in this year.

Don't be fooled by the percentages of whats been revealed on those two. Early revealers in recent years are supporters of Bonds/Clemens which gives false hope. What you're really looking for to see if they have a chance is if they've picked up any votes from either new voters or voters who didn't vote for them last time. So far there have been no reveals from new voters. And among returning voters, neither Bonds or Clemens has gained a vote. So it doesn't look like their totals when all is said and done are going to move much - at least based on what has been revealed so far. They ended at ~59% last time. They have to gain votes to change that.

Here's the numbers that will end up mattering. + or - vs. last years votes.

Kent +9
Rolen +8
Helton +7
Wagner +6
Sheffield +6
Walker +5
Manny +5
Andruw +4
Sosa +3
Schilling +3
Pettitte +2
Vizquel +/- 0
Bonds +/- 0
Clemens -1

[gmoney328]

Public Ballots: 54
Anonymous Ballots: 2
% of Ballots Known: 13.6%
"Last Updated:
12/24/2019 at 14:00 PST"
Derek Jeter 100.0%
Larry Walker 85.7%
Curt Schilling 83.9%
Barry Bonds 73.2%
Roger Clemens 73.2%
Omar Vizquel 48.2%
Manny Ramirez 44.6%
Scott Rolen 41.1%
Todd Helton 33.9%
Jeff Kent 33.9%
Gary Sheffield 32.1%
Billy Wagner 28.6%
Andruw Jones 21.4%
Sammy Sosa 21.4%
Andy Pettitte 12.5%
Bobby Abreu 7.1%
Eric Chávez 0.0%
Rafael Furcal 0.0%
Jason Giambi 0.0%
Paul Konerko 0.0%
Cliff Lee 0.0%
Alfonso Soriano 0.0%
Josh Beckett 0.0%
Heath Bell 0.0%
Adam Dunn 0.0%
Chone Figgins 0.0%
Raúl Ibañez 0.0%
Carlos Peña 0.0%
Brad Penny 0.0%
JJ Putz 0.0%
Brian Roberts 0.0%
José Valverde 0.0%

[gmoney328]

Bonds and Clemens trending down. Kind of rooting for Schilling and Walker to make it. More so Schilling. Big Sox fan here.

[asujbl]

Who the F is Chone Figgins?

I actually know but the fact his name was typed out is insanity

[Eckstein197]

Bonds and Clemens deserve to be in.

To quote their website, the baseball HOF is a “nonprofit committed to preserving the history of America’s pastime and celebrating the legendary players”

Steroids are a part of baseballs history whether they like it or not. Bonds and Clemens are some of the greatest players ever

[EldoEsq]

Didn't some guy on Twitter post his ballot and didn't vote for Jeter?

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[awz50]

I'd bet jeter gets 100%

[PejaD]

The Expos franchise (Nats) win its first WS. Now it's time to induct the HOF to induct its first Canadian position player.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Bonds and Clemens deserve to be in.

To quote their website, the baseball HOF is a “nonprofit committed to preserving the history of America’s pastime and celebrating the legendary players”

Steroids are a part of baseballs history whether they like it or not. Bonds and Clemens are some of the greatest players ever

They are in the Hall of Fame. When I visited there was a steroid exhibit. There is also an exhibit on Bonds HR record just like one for Pete Rose's hit record. They just won't ever have a plaque in the plaque room because they doped, cheated, to get their numbers. Just like Shoeless Joe Jackson is still waiting 83 years later despite being a better player than most of his contemporaries that have been inducted.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by rats60

These numbers suggest a one man class. The public ballots normally over state players numbers by ~10% at the top. Last year Bonds, Clemens and Walker's actual totals were 11%+ less than the public ballot totals, Schilling was 9% less. People that don't make their ballots public often vote for fewer players, even blank ballots or ballots with just Jeter.

This. Though I suspect Walker will get another huge bump and could make it. Schilling may get really close. But that’s all that has a chance to join Jeter, Simmons, and Miller this year.

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by EldoEsq

Didn't some guy on Twitter post his ballot and didn't vote for Jeter?

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It was a prank ballot to stir up angry people on Twitter. He posted his real one an hour later

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by rats60

They are in the Hall of Fame. When I visited there was a steroid exhibit. There is also an exhibit on Bonds HR record just like one for Pete Rose's hit record. They just won't ever have a plaque in the plaque room because they doped, cheated, to get their numbers. Just like Shoeless Joe Jackson is still waiting 83 years later despite being a better player than most of his contemporaries that have been inducted.

Shoeless Joe isn’t a steroid related thing though. He was allegedly (this has massive debates over whether he did or didn’t) part of the scandal that threw the WS. Shoeless Joe didn’t cheat to get better numbers. Different conversation than steroids

[WizardofOz1982]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Shoeless Joe isn’t a steroid related thing though. He was allegedly (this has massive debates over whether he did or didn’t) part of the scandal that threw the WS. Shoeless Joe didn’t cheat to get better numbers. Different conversation than steroids

If Shoeless Joe tanked to try to lose the 1919 World Series then he failed miserably.

[brauncj1]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

It was a prank ballot to stir up angry people on Twitter. He posted his real one an hour later

I’m sorry if it offends anyone but if Jeter is an unanimous pick it’s an insult to Maddux, Griffey and the list goes on and on.

[bblair_2002]

Originally Posted by brauncj1

I’m sorry if it offends anyone but if Jeter is an unanimous pick it’s an insult to Maddux, Griffey and the list goes on and on.

I hope Jeter doesn't just so I can see a 50 page thread about it if it happens.

[gmoney328]

How long does A-Rod wait when he’s eligible, and does he ever actually get in the Hall?