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Old 11-26-2019, 10:54 PM   #1
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Thumbs down ALERT: Heritage Selling Trimmed PSA 10 Lebron SPA RC Auto #252/500 With PWCC Origin

I'm not expecting this to be taken down seeing as I have gotten no response from Heritage regarding them selling a trimmed PSA 10 Brees Contenders RC (link: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1334448). This one was first sold by PWCC in December 2016 for under $6,000. It currently sits at over $22k including BP with nine days left.

Buyer beware when purchasing graded cards.

Note: For 100% confirmation of trimming, the card with a PSA serial number directly adjacent to this one, an Aaron Rodgers Exquisite RPA, is also trimmed. I will be posting that in the football section later.


https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...edItems-071515
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1396878
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...mes-1813515059

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Old 11-27-2019, 12:07 AM   #2
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Old 11-27-2019, 12:14 AM   #3
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Old 11-27-2019, 02:44 AM   #4
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Heritage is a joke I will never do business with them again and it has nothing to do with this #@#@#@#@ but this just confirms to me they have zero business ethics.


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Old 11-27-2019, 02:51 AM   #5
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If only Lebron's actual barber had this kind of precision.
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:04 AM   #6
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op, I would call Chris cavalier at heritage. he can help get it removed and answer all questions.
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:40 AM   #7
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:55 AM   #8
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must have been someone grading blindfolded that day
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:31 PM   #9
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Heritage has withdrawn the card.
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:33 PM   #10
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:26 PM   #11
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Wow OP you re so awesome
Can i ask you to verify no trimming on cards before i buy them?? Please?

Thank God for serial numbered cards so that these cards can be tracked down


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Old 11-27-2019, 07:30 PM   #12
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Any idea who or when this was trimmed?
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Old 11-27-2019, 08:10 PM   #13
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Any idea who or when this was trimmed?
Trimmed between May and December of 2016. Not sure on who. Could probably work it out, but it's safe to say it's a frequent flyer.
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Heritage is previewing this card for their next auction starting at the end of this month. It is clearly trimmed and is adjacent to other trimmed cards. Buyer beware.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...ription-071515
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"NOTE: Originally slated to run in our December Auction, this card was withdrawn prior to Auction close as we were informed of a potential alteration. In light of what was provided, the card was sent to PSA for re-examination and subsequently cleared by senior level graders who could find no evidence of alteration. Based on all the information available there are no returns on this lot. Please bid accordingly."
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"NOTE: Originally slated to run in our December Auction, this card was withdrawn prior to Auction close as we were informed of a potential alteration. In light of what was provided, the card was sent to PSA for re-examination and subsequently cleared by senior level graders who could find no evidence of alteration. Based on all the information available there are no returns on this lot. Please bid accordingly."
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"NOTE: Originally slated to run in our December Auction, this card was withdrawn prior to Auction close as we were informed of a potential alteration. In light of what was provided, the card was sent to PSA for re-examination and subsequently cleared by senior level graders who could find no evidence of alteration. Based on all the information available there are no returns on this lot. Please bid accordingly."
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Before and after photos of trimmed cards in PSA submissions with cards that contain other trimmed cards and are made by submitters who are surely known trimmers is not evidence.
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:30 PM   #19
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How is PSA not able to detect trimming?
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:31 PM   #20
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Before and after photos of trimmed cards in PSA submissions with cards that contain other trimmed cards and are made by submitters who are surely known trimmers is not evidence.
Keep doing what you do!!!
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How is PSA not able to detect trimming?
Because they would lose $25,000-$30,000 on this card if they "detected" trimming. All they have to do is say they don't see anything, too bad.
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And obviously Heritage is just trying to dump the card because they suspended their return policy on the card. If they really thought it wasn't altered they would stand behind PSA and their return policy.
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:50 PM   #23
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It would be funny if someone won the auction from Heritage, paid with a credit card (Discover) and then somehow the winner sees that this card was indeed trimmed and that he got shafted then proceeds to do a charge back with Discover almost 18 months later and got their money back and kept the card?

Now that would be hilarious especially if Heritage was unwilling to accept the return when they were fully aware that the card was trimmed...

But then again that wouldn't fully solve PSA's incompetency, would it? Just give grades to high volume, high profile people...
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Because they would lose $25,000-$30,000 on this card if they "detected" trimming. All they have to do is say they don't see anything, too bad.
Just crazy. PSA isn't really a "third party grader" in these situations, when their opinion is financially influenced.
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Just crazy. PSA isn't really a "third party grader" in these situations, when their opinion is financially influenced.
Apparently Heritage doesn't have balls to sue PSA or to just not sell the card. Probably because, as with PWCC, they don't exist in the sports card market without PSA.
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