Basketball investment/collecting question

czyankeefan · 07-16-2019, 01:52 PM

I'm looking to invest in a few specific young players. My question is, for collectors, if I wanted to bulk up on a few cards, is the silver prizm the way to go? Or maybe some rarer prizm cards? Or maybe contenders autos? Thanks for the help!

exclusively_nba · 07-16-2019, 01:57 PM

Silver Prizm and maybe a Blue or Purple Cracked Ice (both are numbered), National Treasures RPA, and Next Day Auto (I think it's from Donruss) would be a few good ones. There are plenty of other options too, but those are definitely a few key pieces.

jcardstore · 07-16-2019, 02:08 PM

It's all about the silver prizms baby! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

czyankeefan · 07-16-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by exclusively_nba

Silver Prizm and maybe a Blue or Purple Cracked Ice (both are numbered), National Treasures RPA, and Next Day Auto (I think it's from Donruss) would be a few good ones. There are plenty of other options too, but those are definitely a few key pieces.

Thanks for the help! Wouldn't have even thought of those next day autos!

mk6283 · 07-16-2019, 02:08 PM

Gold Prizms /10

czyankeefan · 07-16-2019, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

It's all about the silver prizms baby! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Sounds good to me!

czyankeefan · 07-16-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mk6283

Gold Prizms /10

Definitely a good option.Thanks!

advan24r · 07-16-2019, 02:39 PM

Below is what I would aim for if you are looking at an investment point of view.

Prizm or Optic for their BASE NON-AUTO RC investments

Auto RCs (in the following order..just my opinion):
National Treasures
Next Day
Contenders
Immaculate
Flawless

Everything else that are RC autos would be just icing on the cake.

BigSeph · 07-16-2019, 02:43 PM

Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:

Optic holo pop:

chuckerrrr · 07-16-2019, 03:08 PM

National Treasures RPA, Prizm Silver or anything under /100, on card autos.

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UD HighGloss · 07-16-2019, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mk6283

Gold Prizms /10

BLASPHEMY, how could you suggest something so rational!

Cavaliercards · 07-16-2019, 03:22 PM

Logomans or dont even try

KeenanRIVALS · 07-16-2019, 03:41 PM

If its a lower end player I say go for cracked ice, blue being my fav. They tend to dry up faster and them being limited to 99 will save you once/if the Silver obsession dies down. In my personal opinion, they just aren't as limited as they once were and that kills the fun out of it. You can buy a Donovan Mitchell Silver or Jayson Tatum Silver no problem right now, they're always up for sale, same with Luka and Trae Young.

If you're buying a high end player then I'd go with Silver, you'll likely flip those much sooner so you won't have to worry about sitting on them for too long.\

2015 and under, Silver is fine.
2016 and above, Cracked Ice.

KeenanRIVALS · 07-16-2019, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSeph

Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:

Optic holo pop:

They're def more limited, but the set just isn't as popular. Optic White Sparkle could be just as limited as Prizm's, but the price doesn't reflect that. Immaculate could be just as limited as NT, but again the price doesn't reflect that. It's more to it than rarity, it's about market adoption, box price, and history.

Topps chrome wasn't as rare as say Bowman Chrome back in the day, but that didn't stop Bowman Chrome from losing.

BigSeph · 07-16-2019, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KeenanRIVALS

They're def more limited, but the set just isn't as popular. Optic White Sparkle could be just as limited as Prizm's, but the price doesn't reflect that. Immaculate could be just as limited as NT, but again the price doesn't reflect that. It's more to it than rarity, it's about market adoption, box price, and history.

Topps chrome wasn't as rare as say Bowman Chrome back in the day, but that didn't stop Bowman Chrome from losing.

Not going to rehash the logic behind comparing Donruss Optic to Topps Chrome again.

The longer it takes people to figure out, the more I can accumulate on the cheap. This was a thread about "bulking up" on cards of certain players. If you can get the long-term winner at a discount to today's flavor of the month, then you could buy more within your budget constraints.

So that's my advice, people are free to take it or leave it.

imbluestreak23 · 07-16-2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSeph

Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:

Optic holo pop:

Wowza

mindcycle · 07-16-2019, 04:26 PM

Depends on what you consider "investing". Is it short or long term? Short term, Prizm silver rc's can be a good money maker throughout the season. Long term, I think quantity is going to hurt you outside of short print years like 12-13. This last season there was 5,000+ silver prizms produced. Unless you're buying a guy who turns into a generational player, long term ROI probably isn't there on silvers anymore. Best to go with tried and true actual short print parallels like mojo /25 or gold /10.

I don't invest in cards myself, but if I did I would be buying guys I actually like and follow. The closer you can follow a player the more prepared you'll be when it's time to move their stuff.

Giannis34fan · 07-16-2019, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSeph

Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:

Optic holo pop:

Shhh.... don't say anything! I'm trying to pick up some Trae Young Optic Holo Autographs myself. lol

But yes, point well taken!

ThoseBackPages · 07-16-2019, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSeph

Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:

Optic holo pop:

that would be great!

scary that 2017 Blasters are down to $7 now

Giannis34fan · 07-16-2019, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

that would be great!

scary that 2017 Blasters are down to $7 now

Last years rookie class (Luka, Trae, Ayton, Jaren Jackson, etc, etc) was much stronger in my opinion than the 2017-18 season (Tatum, Ball, Kuzma)? Maybe it has to do with the supply and demand as I haven't seen any 2018-19 basketball at Target or Walmart left over...

RogerGodahell · 07-16-2019, 05:05 PM

I also am a big fan of Optic holo's. Both autos and non autos. Last year Optic was great. Just so you know last year there were roughly 1000 optic holo's (600 hobby and 400 retail) and 5000 prizm silvers. And the good part about the Optic autos is they're on card. Why are they so undervalued? Your guess is as good as mine.

eastbayak · 07-16-2019, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Giannis34fan

Last years rookie class (Luka, Trae, Ayton, Jaren Jackson, etc, etc) was much stronger in my opinion than the 2017-18 season (Tatum, Ball, Kuzma)? Maybe it has to do with the supply and demand as I haven't seen any 2018-19 basketball at Target or Walmart left over...

You forgot about Mitchell, Markkanen, Fox, Collins, etc.

2017-18 was the stronger class imo. So many other talented players in it

Luni · 07-16-2019, 05:14 PM

Too bad Mitchell hasn't signed any of his on card Optic rcs though

Giannis34fan · 07-16-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

You forgot about Mitchell, Markkanen, Fox, Collins, etc.

2017-18 was the stronger class imo. So many other talented players in it

Maybe I just got Luka fever and got sidetracked. lol I think you are right... but we shall see what the better draft class will be in about 5-10 more years? lol

Giannis34fan · 07-16-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Luni

Too bad Mitchell hasn't signed any of his Optic rcs though

Didn't realize he was in Donruss Optic too? WOW! Will Panini give something of comparable value back? How long would the wait be... hopefully not as long as the Julio Jones debacle in football... lol

07-16-2019, 01:52 PM	#1
czyankeefan Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,604 czyankeefan	Basketball investment/collecting question I'm looking to invest in a few specific young players. My question is, for collectors, if I wanted to bulk up on a few cards, is the silver prizm the way to go? Or maybe some rarer prizm cards? Or maybe contenders autos? Thanks for the help! __________________ PC: A-Rod, Jeter, and Trout. Always buying prospect autos!!

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exclusively_nba Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,631	Silver Prizm and maybe a Blue or Purple Cracked Ice (both are numbered), National Treasures RPA, and Next Day Auto (I think it's from Donruss) would be a few good ones. There are plenty of other options too, but those are definitely a few key pieces. __________________ My "Grading 101" ebook on Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/2bw3phbl

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jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 22,016 Jcardstore	It's all about the silver prizms baby! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

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mindcycle Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 5,043	Depends on what you consider "investing". Is it short or long term? Short term, Prizm silver rc's can be a good money maker throughout the season. Long term, I think quantity is going to hurt you outside of short print years like 12-13. This last season there was 5,000+ silver prizms produced. Unless you're buying a guy who turns into a generational player, long term ROI probably isn't there on silvers anymore. Best to go with tried and true actual short print parallels like mojo /25 or gold /10. I don't invest in cards myself, but if I did I would be buying guys I actually like and follow. The closer you can follow a player the more prepared you'll be when it's time to move their stuff. Last edited by mindcycle; 07-16-2019 at 04:41 PM.

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mk6283 Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 514 mksportscards	Gold Prizms /10

07-16-2019, 02:39 PM	#8
advan24r Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,143 advan24r	Below is what I would aim for if you are looking at an investment point of view. Prizm or Optic for their BASE NON-AUTO RC investments Auto RCs (in the following order..just my opinion): National Treasures Next Day Contenders Immaculate Flawless Everything else that are RC autos would be just icing on the cake.

07-16-2019, 02:43 PM	#9
BigSeph Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,772 BigSeph	Optic holos. Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want. Prizm silver pop: Optic holo pop:

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chuckerrrr Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Georgetown TX Posts: 3,445 charger21	National Treasures RPA, Prizm Silver or anything under /100, on card autos. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07-16-2019, 03:41 PM	#13
KeenanRIVALS Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 997	If its a lower end player I say go for cracked ice, blue being my fav. They tend to dry up faster and them being limited to 99 will save you once/if the Silver obsession dies down. In my personal opinion, they just aren't as limited as they once were and that kills the fun out of it. You can buy a Donovan Mitchell Silver or Jayson Tatum Silver no problem right now, they're always up for sale, same with Luka and Trae Young. If you're buying a high end player then I'd go with Silver, you'll likely flip those much sooner so you won't have to worry about sitting on them for too long.\ 2015 and under, Silver is fine. 2016 and above, Cracked Ice.

07-16-2019, 05:05 PM	#21
RogerGodahell Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Cardboard Enthusiast Posts: 20,783 RogerGodahell	I also am a big fan of Optic holo's. Both autos and non autos. Last year Optic was great. Just so you know last year there were roughly 1000 optic holo's (600 hobby and 400 retail) and 5000 prizm silvers. And the good part about the Optic autos is they're on card. Why are they so undervalued? Your guess is as good as mine.

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Luni Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: NC, USA Posts: 1,406 Luninutz Luni	Too bad Mitchell hasn't signed any of his on card Optic rcs though __________________ Kevin Garnett Collector https://www.instagram.com/luni_kg 2018-19 Prizm Rainbow Status: 38/38 - Now Complete!