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Old 02-08-2019, 11:08 AM   #1
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Need some advice from the community. I sold a LeBron RC (2003 Fleer E-X) on Ebay 2 days ago. Buyer sent me an offer, and I accepted his offer. Since then he has not paid. Card was "sold" on the 6th at around noon. I sent a friendly/polite payment reminder yesterday around 2pm or so. During this entire time I have had no contact with the buyer. Today is day 3, and I am a little frustrated because I was trying to sell this card quickly and needed the money. This person has had my card and my money tied up for 3 days now. I believe the buyer has no intention of paying at this point, because common-sense says that I should have at least got a little message from him or SOMETHING by now, but no, nothing at all. I have checked his feedback and it seems that he has been on ebay quite awhile, and never has had an issue that I can see, but this is very disrespectful and frustrating.

So, how do I go about handling this situation? Do I cancel and re-list the card? Do I give him more time to respond or pay? Do I "name and shame" him on here so that others can avoid this issue? I have never encountered this situation before, and so hoping someone can help me out.

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Old 02-08-2019, 11:10 AM   #2
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Well, if you need payment ASAP, then either do a BIN with immediate payment required or add in description that you need payment ASAP.

If not, the buyer technically has up to 1 week or so to pay, per ebay rules.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:12 AM   #3
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File your NPB case and move on.

If you’re in desperate need of funds, do not sell on eBay.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:13 AM   #4
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Well, if you need payment ASAP, then either do a BIN with immediate payment required or add in description that you need payment ASAP.

If not, the buyer technically has up to 1 week or so to pay, per ebay rules.
well #@#@#@#@.

It did have a BIN with instant payment selected, as well as "make offer."

I guess that this is my mistake then. I have learned. I will make all my listings BIN only from now on, and also add in the description like you have suggested.

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Old 02-08-2019, 11:13 AM   #5
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File your NPB case and move on.

If you’re in desperate need of funds, do not sell on eBay.
lesson learned. cheers!
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:49 AM   #6
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File your NPB case and move on.

If you’re in desperate need of funds, do not sell on eBay.

I agree. Move on. Avoid yourself a headache with someone doing business like that.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:55 AM   #7
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Less than 48hrs have passed...willing to bet the majority will side with the buyer who you state according to FB shows no issues of this in the past...maybe today was payday and he had to wait until today. Maybe a million things happen to where he wasnt online to reply to you or let you know. If it wasnt a BIN/pay immediately why would I feel the need to send you a message telling you anything after 1 day!
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:20 PM   #8
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Less than 48hrs have passed...willing to bet the majority will side with the buyer who you state according to FB shows no issues of this in the past...maybe today was payday and he had to wait until today. Maybe a million things happen to where he wasnt online to reply to you or let you know. If it wasnt a BIN/pay immediately why would I feel the need to send you a message telling you anything after 1 day!
all very true, although I could make the argument that since the buyer made an offer on my card, then one would assume that the person making the offer has the money to pay for it.

I had card listed as a BIN and I also had the option that a potential buyer could make me an offer, which in this case is what happened, the buyer made the offer and I accepted.

He definitely has been online, and he even had some items for sale and some auctions going on during this time, which have all ended now. All his listings were for LeBron items, and he has one item left for sale, which is some MJ set for $10,000 BIN), but yes today at noon will be exactly 48 hours, so maybe I was a bit impatient, although in this case I just feel like its very disrespectful to "buy" something without having the money to pay for it. That's just me though.

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Old 02-08-2019, 12:25 PM   #9
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I agree. Move on. Avoid yourself a headache with someone doing business like that.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:29 PM   #10
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all very true, although I could make the argument that since the buyer made an offer on my card, then one would assume that the person making the offer has the money to pay for it.

I had card listed as a BIN and I also had the option that a potential buyer could make me an offer, which in this case is what happened, the buyer made the offer and I accepted.

He definitely has been online, and he even had some items for sale and some auctions going on during this time, which have all ended now. All his listings were for LeBron items, and he has one item left for sale, which is some MJ set for $10,000 BIN), but yes today at noon will be exactly 48 hours, so maybe I was a bit impatient, although in this case I just feel like its very disrespectful to "buy" something without having the money to pay for it. That's just me though.

Thank you for the reply! Cheers!
He has, at the very least, 6 days to pay. That's the agreement both you and he brokered when you did this transaction on eBay. While most can agree with some of your sentiment, the buyer isn't doing anything wrong nor being disrespectful.

The BIN/immediate payment feature is a perfect remedy and you can change all your listings to this if you're in need of immediate funds.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:29 PM   #11
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Ebay will automatically resolve the issue and note it on the buyer's account. They'll refund your fees and let you know when you can relist. I think it usually takes a week or so.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:32 PM   #12
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Honestly what I do to save time and because filing a case does nothing is cancel the order saying customer asked to cancel. May or may not be the correct way about doing it but is what I do.
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:34 PM   #13
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In the future sell it here! We like LeBron. Although we (ok me) may be cheapskates.

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Old 02-08-2019, 12:45 PM   #14
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all very true, although I could make the argument that since the buyer made an offer on my card, then one would assume that the person making the offer has the money to pay for it.

I had card listed as a BIN and I also had the option that a potential buyer could make me an offer, which in this case is what happened, the buyer made the offer and I accepted.

He definitely has been online, and he even had some items for sale and some auctions going on during this time, which have all ended now. All his listings were for LeBron items, and he has one item left for sale, which is some MJ set for $10,000 BIN), but yes today at noon will be exactly 48 hours, so maybe I was a bit impatient, although in this case I just feel like its very disrespectful to "buy" something without having the money to pay for it. That's just me though.

Thank you for the reply! Cheers!
yea that makes sense if it was the "pay right now" setting...it wasnt though...

saying its disrespectful to "buy" something without having money to pay....that is kinda nuts to me...what if indeed today is payday and now he has the money...well he didnt want to miss out on the card he wanted...so he sent you an offer...you accepted...so he secured his card on Wednesday and wouldnt be able to pay until Friday(hypothetical of course...i have no clue if the guy is gonna pay for it or not...but this is a very logical hypothetical)...

i guarantee tons and tons of people do this....ive done this before on $20 cards even! lol...especially on auctions...im not going to just not bid cuz i cant pay the seller immediately...

just my thoughts...i dont think the buyer has done literally anything wrong UP TO THIS POINT...obviously if few more days go by with nothing...then sure...he prob doesnt plan on paying at that point...
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:46 PM   #15
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You can still have best offer on your BIN listings. What I do is when someone makes me an offer I’m willing to accept, I will decline it but send a note that I will adjust the price and they can purchase it. That way immediate payment is still required. If they don’t purchase within a certain amount of time you can always edit your price.
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:22 PM   #16
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You can still have best offer on your BIN listings. What I do is when someone makes me an offer I’m willing to accept, I will decline it but send a note that I will adjust the price and they can purchase it. That way immediate payment is still required. If they don’t purchase within a certain amount of time you can always edit your price.
I really like this! I plan on doing this for all offers in the future. Thank you!
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:53 PM   #17
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yea that makes sense if it was the "pay right now" setting...it wasnt though...

saying its disrespectful to "buy" something without having money to pay....that is kinda nuts to me...what if indeed today is payday and now he has the money...well he didnt want to miss out on the card he wanted...so he sent you an offer...you accepted...so he secured his card on Wednesday and wouldnt be able to pay until Friday(hypothetical of course...i have no clue if the guy is gonna pay for it or not...but this is a very logical hypothetical)...

i guarantee tons and tons of people do this....ive done this before on $20 cards even! lol...especially on auctions...im not going to just not bid cuz i cant pay the seller immediately...

just my thoughts...i dont think the buyer has done literally anything wrong UP TO THIS POINT...obviously if few more days go by with nothing...then sure...he prob doesnt plan on paying at that point...
I don't agree with any of what you said, and even though it really makes no difference to the principle of the matter, this is not a $20 card (more like $300+) we are talking about, and as of today (02/09/2019) he still has not paid. I personally do not think it is right to "purchase" something that you know you do not have the money for. Either you have the money or you don't, and it is as simple as that. I am not Walmart, or some big card shop, and I do not have shelves stocked with items with customers coming in on a 24 hour basis. I sell a few cards now and then when I need money, and I do not think it is too much to expect of people that when/if they "purchase" a card (especially after THEY make a cash offer) that they HAVE the money to pay for it at that time, or they even could just TRY and ATTEMPT to CONTACT ME and say "hey, I need a day or two", then that would be okay, but none of that has happened.

idk, everyone is different I know, but I just would never go shopping for anything without the money to pay for what I was shopping for. I mean I know "window shopping" is a thing, but this is not what we are talking about.

Saying "everyone does it" or "everyone would agree" does not make it right, and I am sure that I could piss off more than one person easily by "purchasing" their cards from them, and then never even respond to a message or pay for the card. Now, just think about it, what if I had the same card I wanted to sell, but someone had it listed for lower, we would be the only two listings, but I feel I need the money more than the other person, so what could I do? Think about it. "Person A" lists a card that is sought after for less than the going value. "Person B" (who has same card) makes offer and/or "purchases" the card, thereby taking the listing down, and now "Person B" lists his card. This makes sure that "Person A" does not get a sale until after "Person B". You see, this could very easily be manipulated with more sought-after cards to make peoples days very hard, especially for private individuals.

Now I will bow out gracefully, and say that yes this is all my fault. Yes, I know I should have not sold on Ebay. Yes, I know it's ok to make people offers on cards when I don't have the money to pay them. Yes, it's okay for people to be disrespectful and not respond to messages. Yes, I will wait 7 days as I have to per Ebay rules, and then if the buyer still does not pay I will file a "Non-Paying Buyer" report.

You see, for the average everyday person, this is a giant headache, and a terrible waste of time, and yes, VERY disrespectful.

With that said, what you described in your reply is just wrong, and if no one else will say it, then I will.

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In the future sell it here! We like LeBron. Although we (ok me) may be cheapskates.

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After this ebay situation gets resolved I will post the card on the Basketball FS thread here on BO!

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