Your thoughts in John Collins??

Idol · 08-17-2018, 11:11 PM

Do you think he’s going to be a superstar,star or just another average player?

babyfaceposey · 08-18-2018, 12:04 AM

Average.

clipperboy24 · 08-18-2018, 12:26 AM

Above average player but average hobby value. He’s a big man and plays in atlanta, those are tough variables to overcome

ninjacookies · 08-18-2018, 01:07 AM

I mean realistically, will he even be better than a guy like Milsap (who is/was a multifaceted beast)?

I just don't see anything really special about the guy besides his powerful dunks. I'm thinking Thadeus Young type of career. I could be way off.

cp3fan · 08-18-2018, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I mean realistically, will he even be better than a guy like Milsap (who is/was a multifaceted beast)?

I just don't see anything really special about the guy besides his powerful dunks. I'm thinking Thadeus Young type of career. I could be way off.

I was thinking a more athletic version of milsap. It was only summer league but it looked like he has developed 3 point range. While Trae young will struggle to shoot, his passing will be his bread and butter. I can see him getting Collins a lot of easy buckets as well. I see a lot of improvement for Collins this next season but where that will ultimately take him? Who knows. My more athletic milsap ceiling for him could be end up being wrong.

ninjacookies · 08-18-2018, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cp3fan

I was thinking a more athletic version of milsap. It was only summer league but it looked like he has developed 3 point range. While Trae young will struggle to shoot, his passing will be his bread and butter. I can see him getting Collins a lot of easy buckets as well. I see a lot of improvement for Collins this next season but where that will ultimately take him? Who knows. My more athletic milsap ceiling for him could be end up being wrong.

Definitely could be. Milsap's stats on paper aren't mind blowing, but he contributes in every column and has inside outside range. Which I believe Collins has as well. The new crop of talent over there might actually make me watch Hawks games this season lol.

cp3fan · 08-18-2018, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Definitely could be. Milsap's stats on paper aren't mind blowing, but he contributes in every column and has inside outside range. Which I believe Collins has as well. The new crop of talent over there might actually make me watch Hawks games this season lol.

I was actually thinking about that (watching the hawks) the other day and I'll probably check out a few games this year as I'm curious to see their young players too. Never thought I'd say that in a long time.

ninjacookies · 08-18-2018, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cp3fan

I was actually thinking about that (watching the hawks) the other day and I'll probably check out a few games this year as I'm curious to see their young players too. Never thought I'd say that in a long time.

Been a pretty miserable squad to sit thru if you're a DFS player. Glad management at least went with drafting players that offer some sort of excitement even if the squad remains down in the gutter.

smalltown · 08-18-2018, 06:00 AM

Average player. Fun to watch. Not a lot of hobby value.

wickedliquids · 08-18-2018, 08:46 AM

My Collins s collections says he better produce.

Bruin7 · 08-18-2018, 09:02 AM

Kind of reminds me of a poor man's Blake Griffin; will definitely turn heads with dunks this season but not a superstar. Definite short-term hold.

ACS

darscards35kd · 08-18-2018, 02:48 PM

He's a guy I would unload during the preseason hype for sure. Nice player but think the expectations are starting to get a little too high for him.

crazy4kinsler · 09-07-2018, 04:43 PM

Just a heads up idol. I tried to send you a PM just now and your inbox was full.

RonnieG1 · 09-09-2018, 09:24 PM

You guys are scaring me. Collins is one of my bigger sleeper investments. I think statistically he is up there with top rookies. I hope into 2019 I am proven right. <Sigh...mumbling...”hope I’m right “...>

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davechappelle · 09-09-2018, 10:21 PM

Josh Smith

Siberian13 · 09-09-2018, 11:05 PM

Don’t put any stock in anything Atlanta/Georgia sports related

bdrr · 09-09-2018, 11:50 PM

Somebody has to score points on a bad team. Just depends whether there is enough hype on a player to make people care.

jcardstore · 09-10-2018, 08:04 AM

He's going to be a much better real life basketball player than a hobby value guy.

jrg1128 · 09-10-2018, 08:11 AM

If he produces at a high level this year there is definitely money to be made on him. Long term? Idk. But, there is some hype with him, and where there is hype, card values can always rise. I think he's one of the safer investments if you are looking at short term flipping. I don't see any reason why his silvers couldn't get up in the $50-$60 range with how the hobby is today, grasping at any hope of a breakout career.

ronaldkosh · 09-10-2018, 08:14 AM

Never invest in big men

Boldstar6 · 09-10-2018, 08:16 AM

IMO, good real life and fantasy player but nothing special in the hobby world. He's athletic? Saw some BGriff and JSmoove comparisons.

Boo · 09-10-2018, 08:18 AM

Siberian collects him...so don't.

Bruin7 · 09-10-2018, 09:45 AM

Should put up decent low double-double numbers this year. Definitely a highlight reel-type of player which will help prices but don't see the long term value in him.

ACS

08-17-2018, 11:11 PM	#1
Idol Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 2,729 Rookiesonly99	Your thoughts in John Collins?? Do you think he’s going to be a superstar,star or just another average player? __________________ Follow me on Instagram “rookiesonly99”

08-18-2018, 12:26 AM	#3
clipperboy24 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,628	Above average player but average hobby value. He’s a big man and plays in atlanta, those are tough variables to overcome __________________ Looking for nice cards of Mfiondu Kabengele

08-18-2018, 06:00 AM	#9
smalltown Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 17,243 ifeature	Average player. Fun to watch. Not a lot of hobby value. __________________ Collecting: Raptors, Canadian Basketball Players, Vintage & More. PC: https://www.instagram.com/smalltown.cards/

08-18-2018, 08:46 AM	#10
wickedliquids Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,191 marvjung	My Collins s collections says he better produce. __________________ *My cards are ALL valuable!!! They just don't know it yet!* Still Looking for 2009 Goodwin Champions Buffalo Bill Cody Relic and Lyndon Baines Johnson Relic!

08-18-2018, 09:02 AM	#11
Bruin7 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,777	Kind of reminds me of a poor man's Blake Griffin; will definitely turn heads with dunks this season but not a superstar. Definite short-term hold. ACS __________________ Collecting A Christmas Story & Transformers Cards UCLA CLASS OF 2002

08-18-2018, 12:04 AM	#2
babyfaceposey Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 8,308 Babyfaceposey	Average.

08-18-2018, 01:07 AM	#4
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,479	I mean realistically, will he even be better than a guy like Milsap (who is/was a multifaceted beast)? I just don't see anything really special about the guy besides his powerful dunks. I'm thinking Thadeus Young type of career. I could be way off.

08-18-2018, 02:48 PM	#12
darscards35kd Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 9,725 ss_cardshop515	He's a guy I would unload during the preseason hype for sure. Nice player but think the expectations are starting to get a little too high for him.

09-07-2018, 04:43 PM	#13
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09-09-2018, 09:24 PM	#14
RonnieG1 Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 28	You guys are scaring me. Collins is one of my bigger sleeper investments. I think statistically he is up there with top rookies. I hope into 2019 I am proven right. <Sigh...mumbling...”hope I’m right “...> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-09-2018, 10:21 PM	#15
davechappelle Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 272	Josh Smith

09-09-2018, 11:05 PM	#16
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 76,233 shiller13	Don’t put any stock in anything Atlanta/Georgia sports related

09-09-2018, 11:50 PM	#17
bdrr Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Washington, DC but Los Angeles at heart. Posts: 13,315	Somebody has to score points on a bad team. Just depends whether there is enough hype on a player to make people care. __________________ ~~I am the Lauri Markkanen hype machine.~~ ~~Haha. Kill me.~~ WHAT NOW, B*****S, LAURI 4EVA

09-10-2018, 08:04 AM	#18
jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 21,695 Jcardstore	He's going to be a much better real life basketball player than a hobby value guy. __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

09-10-2018, 08:11 AM	#19
jrg1128 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,290 jrgbball	If he produces at a high level this year there is definitely money to be made on him. Long term? Idk. But, there is some hype with him, and where there is hype, card values can always rise. I think he's one of the safer investments if you are looking at short term flipping. I don't see any reason why his silvers couldn't get up in the $50-$60 range with how the hobby is today, grasping at any hope of a breakout career.

09-10-2018, 08:14 AM	#20
ronaldkosh Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 488	Never invest in big men

09-10-2018, 08:16 AM	#21
Boldstar6 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 1,916	IMO, good real life and fantasy player but nothing special in the hobby world. He's athletic? Saw some BGriff and JSmoove comparisons. __________________ IG: boldstar6 Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/144236990@N07/albums

09-10-2018, 08:18 AM	#22
Boo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 54,896 klay22	Siberian collects him...so don't. __________________ I have found that flicking through a few threads on my smartphone is a great way to pass some time while "stocking the pond."Hairy 6/7/12 “ I feel you, brother. Welcome to East Berlin, circa 1963.” Hairy 5/9/20

09-10-2018, 09:45 AM	#23
Bruin7 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,777	Should put up decent low double-double numbers this year. Definitely a highlight reel-type of player which will help prices but don't see the long term value in him. ACS __________________ Collecting A Christmas Story & Transformers Cards UCLA CLASS OF 2002