Ohtani ain't carrying crap.

spuds1961 · 03-23-2018, 04:32 PM

I feel sorry for people spending money on 2018 product that is highly overpriced because of this fraud, at least Judge got you your money back.

Firerunner4 · 03-23-2018, 04:37 PM

Glad he's labeled as a "fraud" after ONE spring training........

TarjetasBéisbol · 03-23-2018, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spuds1961

I feel sorry for people spending money on 2018 product that is highly overpriced because of this fraud, at least Judge got you your money back.

Yeah, it’s all his fault.

SirTommyWinAlot · 03-23-2018, 04:42 PM

Buy Devers, Sell Ohtani and Live Happily Ever After.

ThoseBackPages · 03-23-2018, 04:46 PM

its not his fault

oldgoldy97 · 03-23-2018, 04:49 PM

I wouldn’t say fraud. Maybe bust or failure, but never fraud.

smapdi · 03-23-2018, 04:53 PM

Because at this point last year, Judge had everyone in awe.

spuds1961 · 03-23-2018, 04:54 PM

Fraud, bust, failure whatever you want to call it just another Japanese import that won't matter in the long run.

spuds1961 · 03-23-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by smapdi

Because at this point last year, Judge had everyone in awe.

Nope he didn't, but the end result had people profitting on his cardboard. I just feel that Ohtani had too much hype to begin with whereas Judge was never expected to be what he became.

oldgoldy97 · 03-23-2018, 04:58 PM

If Judge had played this bad at this time last year he wouldn’t have had the chance to impress.

spuds1961 · 03-23-2018, 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=SirTommyWinAlot;13361346]Buy Devers, Sell Ohtani and Live Happily Ever After.[/QUOTE

Definitely this.

Chicosbailbonds · 03-23-2018, 05:01 PM

And if Judge sucks this year, the same applies to his investors also.

wwejhardyrox · 03-23-2018, 05:04 PM

The nerve of Ohtani. How dare he???

spuds1961 · 03-23-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

And if Judge sucks this year, the same applies to his investors also.

But guess what even if he sucks this year he still had a superior rookie year where everybody made money on his cards and he stoked the hobby.

Chicosbailbonds · 03-23-2018, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spuds1961

But guess what even if he sucks this year he still had a superior rookie year where everybody made money on his cards and he stoked the hobby.

How can you say everyone made money on them? Whoever bought high would lose their ass. The window was just a lot smaller for Ohtani flippers. Judge could be Roger Maris or he could be Bobby Murcer or Joe Pepitone - two very hyped yankee rookies of yesteryear.

gamboooler · 03-23-2018, 05:15 PM

Pretty sure people who "bought high" on Judge aren't "investors."

spuds1961 · 03-23-2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

How can you say everyone made money on them? Whoever bought high would lose their ass. The window was just a lot smaller for Ohtani flippers. Judge could be Roger Maris or he could be Bobby Murcer or Joe Pepitone - two very hyped yankee rookies of yesteryear.

Not everyone who bought, everyone that pulled a Judge from a box or a pack, anyone who bought high will still break even and that is a lot more than we can say for most players.

Chicosbailbonds · 03-23-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gamboooler

Pretty sure people who "bought high" on Judge aren't "investors."

Then they will be in for a surprise someday when they lose money. Few will hold their value.

hornedfrog1985 · 03-23-2018, 05:21 PM

Judge is going to repeat

gamboooler · 03-23-2018, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

Then they will be in for a surprise someday when they lose money. Few will hold their value.

Not a surprise, that's the point. People buying during hype are either stupid or doing it for entertainment value/fandom. Acting like this is a business is LOL for the most part.

seabass97166 · 03-23-2018, 05:24 PM

He’s not as advertised. He was supposed to throw 100 and he throws 94.
Forget the hitting.....the pitching was at least supposed to be his thing and it’s not MLB caliber..maybe 1-2 years in minors will help

gamboooler · 03-23-2018, 05:26 PM

He really just needs to focus on pitching. Just send him to AA out of camp and let him earn a call-up. Silly to force anything on him due to hype alone.

purejd86p · 03-23-2018, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gamboooler

He really just needs to focus on pitching. Just send him to AA out of camp and let him earn a call-up. Silly to force anything on him due to hype alone.

Agree with you!

Chicosbailbonds · 03-23-2018, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gamboooler

Not a surprise, that's the point. People buying during hype are either stupid or doing it for entertainment value/fandom. Acting like this is a business is LOL for the most part.

I'm probably one of the few true collectors here.

rman112 · 03-23-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by seabass97166

He’s not as advertised. He was supposed to throw 100 and he throws 94.
Forget the hitting.....the pitching was at least supposed to be his thing and it’s not MLB caliber..maybe 1-2 years in minors will help

His fastball looks to be dead red, too.

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spuds1961 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Terry,Ms. Posts: 38,973	Fraud, bust, failure whatever you want to call it just another Japanese import that won't matter in the long run.

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oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50,161	If Judge had played this bad at this time last year he wouldn’t have had the chance to impress.

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spuds1961 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Terry,Ms. Posts: 38,973	[QUOTE=SirTommyWinAlot;13361346]Buy Devers, Sell Ohtani and Live Happily Ever After.[/QUOTE Definitely this.

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gamboooler Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8,062 gamboooler gamboooler	He really just needs to focus on pitching. Just send him to AA out of camp and let him earn a call-up. Silly to force anything on him due to hype alone.